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moblsv
11-12-2007, 09:24 PM
October 27, 2007 City & County Building Salt Lake City, Utah

Address by Mayor Ross C. "Rocky" Anderson

Today, as we come together once again in this great city, we raise our voices in unison to say to President Bush, to Vice President
Cheney, to other members of the Bush Administration (past and
present), to a majority of Congress, including Utah's entire
congressional delegation, and to much of the mainstream media: "You have failed us miserably and we won't take it any more."

While we had every reason to expect far more of you, you have been pompous, greedy, cruel, and incompetent as you have led this great nation to a moral, military, and national security abyss." "You have breached trust with the American people in the most egregious ways. you have utterly failed in the performance of your jobs. You have undermined our Constitution, permitted the violation of the most
fundamental treaty obligations, and betrayed the rule of law.

You have engaged in, or permitted, heinous human rights abuses of the sort never before countenanced in our nation's history as a matter of official policy. You have sent American men and women to kill and be killed on the basis of lies, on the basis of shifting justifications, without competent leadership, and without even a coherent plan for this monumental blunder.

We are here to tell you: We won't take it any more!

You have acted in direct contravention of values that we, as
Americans who love our country, hold dear. You have deceived us in the most cynical, outrageous ways. You have undermined, or allowed the undermining of, our constitutional system of checks and balances among the three presumed co-equal branches of government. You have helped lead our nation to the brink of fascism, of a dictatorship contemptuous of our nation's treaty obligations, federal statutory law, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

Because of you, and because of your jingoistic false 'patriotism,'
our world is far more dangerous, our nation is far more despised, and the threat of terrorism is far greater than ever before. It has been absolutely astounding how you have committed the most horrendous acts, causing such needless tragedy in the lives of millions of people, yet you wear your so-called religion on your sleeves, asserting your God-is-on-my-side nonsense - when what you have done flies in the face of any religious or humanitarian tradition. Your hypocrisy is mind-boggling - and disgraceful.

What part of "Thou shalt not kill" do you not understand? What part of the "Golden rule" do you not understand? What part of "be honest," "be responsible," and "be accountable" don't you understand? What part of "Blessed are the peacekeepers" do you not understand?

Because of you, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, many thousands of people have suffered horrendous lifetime injuries, and millions have been run off from their homes. For the sake of our nation, for the sake of our children, and for the sake of our brothers and sisters around the world, we are morally compelled to say, as loudly as we can, 'We won't take it any more!' "

As United States agents kidnap, disappear, and torture human beings around the world, you justify, you deceive, and you cover up. We find what you have done to men, women and children, and to the good name and reputation of the United States, so appalling, so unconscionable, and so outrageous as to compel us to call upon you to step aside and allow other men and women who are competent, true to our nation's values, and with high moral principles to stand in your places - for the good of our nation, for the good of our children, and for the good of our world.

In the case of the President and Vice President, this means
impeachment and removal from office, without any further delay from a complacent, complicit Congress, the Democratic majority of which cares more about political gain in 2008 than it does about the vindication of our Constitution, the rule of law, and democratic accountability.It means the election of people as President and Vice President who, unlike most of the presidential candidates from both major parties, have not aided and abetted in the perpetration of the illegal, tragic, devastating invasion and occupation of Iraq. And it means the election of people as President and Vice President who will commit to return our nation to the moral and strategic imperative of refraining from torturing human beings.

In the case of the majority of Congress, it means electing people who are diligent enough to learn the facts, including reading available National Intelligence Estimates, before voting to go to war. It means electing to Congress men and women who will jealously guard Congress's sole prerogative to declare war. It means electing to Congress men and women who will not submit like vapid lap dogs to presidential requests for blank checks to engage in so-called preemptive wars, for legislation permitting warrantless wiretapping of communications involving US citizens, and for dangerous, irresponsible, saber-rattling legislation like the recent Kyl- Lieberman amendment.

We must avoid the trap of focusing the blame solely upon President Bush and Vice-President Cheney. This is not just about a few people who have wronged our country - and the world. They were enabled by members of both parties in Congress, they were enabled by the pathetic mainstream news media, and, ultimately, they have been enabled by the American people - 40% of whom are so ill-informed they still think Iraq was behind the 9/11 attacks - a people who know and care more about baseball statistics and which drunken starlets are
wearing underwear than they know and care about the atrocities being committed every single day in our name by a government for which we need to take responsibility.

As loyal Americans, without regard to political partisanship -- as
veterans, as teachers, as religious leaders, as working men and
women, as students, as professionals, as businesspeople, as public servants, as retirees, as people of all ages, races, ethnic origins, sexual orientations, and faiths -- we are here to say to the Bush administration, to the majority of Congress, and to the mainstream media: "You have violated your solemn responsibilities. You have undermined our democracy, spat upon our Constitution, and engaged in outrageous, despicable acts. You have brought our nation to a point of immorality, inhumanity, and illegality of immense, tragic, unprecedented proportions."

But we will live up to our responsibilities as citizens, as brothers
and sisters of those who have suffered as a result of the imperial
bullying of the United States government, and as moral actors who must take a stand: And we will, and must, mean it when we say 'We won't take it any more.

If we want principled, courageous elected officials, we need to be principled, courageous, and tenacious ourselves. History has
demonstrated that our elected officials are not the leaders - the
leadership has to come from us. If we don't insist, if we don't
persist, then we are not living up to our responsibilities as
citizens in a democracy - and our responsibilities as moral human beings. If we remain silent, we signal to Congress and the Bush administration - and to candidates running for office - and to the world - that we support the status quo.

Silence is complicity. Only by standing up for what's right and never letting down can we say we are doing our part. Our government, on the basis of a campaign we now know was entirely fraudulent, attacked and militarily occupied a nation that posed no danger to the United States. Our government, acting in our name, has caused immense, unjustified death and destruction.

It all started five years ago, yet where have we, the American
people, been? At this point, we are responsible. We get together once in a while at demonstrations and complain about Bush and Cheney, about Congress, and about the pathetic news media. We point fingers and yell a lot. Then most people politely go away until another demonstration a few months later.

How many people can honestly say they have spent as much time learning about and opposing the outrages of the Bush administration as they have spent watching sports or mindless television programs during the past five years? Escapist, time-sapping sports and insipid entertainment have indeed become the opiate of the masses. Why is this country so sound asleep? Why do we abide what is happening to our nation, to our Constitution, to the cause of peace and international law and order? Why are we not doing all in our power to put an end to this madness?

We should be in the streets regularly and students should be raising hell on our campuses. We should be making it clear in every way possible that apologies or convoluted, disingenuous explanations just don't cut it when presidential candidates and so many others voted to authorize George Bush and his neo-con buddies to send American men and women to attack and occupy Iraq.

Let's awaken, and wake up the country by committing here and now to do all each of us can to take our nation back. Let them hear us across the country, as we ask others to join us: "We won't take it any more!"

I implore you: Draw a line. Figure out exactly where your own moral breaking point is. How much will you put up with before you say "No more" and mean it?

I have drawn my line as a matter of simple personal morality: I
cannot, and will not, support any candidate who has voted to fund the atrocities in Iraq. I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who will not commit to remove all US troops, as soon as possible, from Iraq. I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who has supported legislation that takes us one step closer to attacking Iran. I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who has not fought to stop the kidnapping, disappearances, and torture being carried on in our name.

If we expect our nation's elected officials to take us seriously, let
us send a powerful message they cannot misunderstand. Let them know we really do have our moral breaking point. Let them know we have rawn a bright line. Let them know they cannot take our support for granted - that, regardless of their party and regardless of other political considerations, they will not have our support if they cannot provide, and have not provided, principled leadership.

The people of this nation may have been far too quiet for five years, but let us pledge that we won't let it go on one more day - that we will do all we can to put an end to the illegalities, the moral degradation, and the disintegration of our nation's reputation in the world.

Let us be unified in drawing the line - in declaring that we do have a moral breaking point. Let us insist, together, in supporting our troops and in gratitude for the freedoms for which our veterans gave so much, that we bring our troops home from Iraq, that we return our government to a constitutional democracy, and that we commit to honoring the fundamental principles of human rights.

In defense of our country, in defense of our Constitution, in defense of our shared values as Americans - and as moral human beings - we declare today that we will fight in every way possible to stop the insanity, stop the continued military occupation of Iraq, and stop the moral depravity reflected by the kidnapping, disappearing, and torture of people around the world.

wolfdancer
11-13-2007, 01:03 AM
It's an awesome message, and took some courage to write it.

Gayle in MD
11-13-2007, 08:15 AM
Salt Lake City, guess he's a Republican? If this guy was pro choice, I'd be willing to offer my time and money to his campaign, for sure.

Gayle in Md.

Chopstick
11-13-2007, 09:03 AM
Monkey on a stick.

moblsv
11-13-2007, 09:04 AM
Salt Lake City and Park City are Utah's islands of reason in what is otherwise the United States most Republican State. If you ever get out this way you will want to hang out around Park City, otherwise your head might explode. And, of course, look me up.

Rocky is pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-Bush Impeachment, and definitely not Republican. He did not run again for Mayor this term and will be replaced by another "not Republican". As far as I know he is not currently planning on running for any other office.

SKennedy
11-13-2007, 09:09 AM
Monkey shtick on a stick!
"Islands of reason?" Glad to be lost at sea.

Gayle in MD
11-13-2007, 09:14 AM
Too bad, he's just what this country needs right now. Got an e-mail address?

If I ever get to Utah again, believe me, you'll be the main reason why I'd stop there. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

BTW, have you read, The Squandering Of America, by Robert Kuttner? A good education on the disasterous results of Reaganomics, such as his brilliant deregulation of the S & L's, which cost us all 400 billion dollars, along with other Republican idiotic economic policies.

Bush's are even worse than Reagans. /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

wolfdancer
11-13-2007, 10:14 AM
The only reason Reagan could legally serve as President, was that in 1967, Congress ratified the 25th amendment.
Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, in contrast, appears to establish the position of "Acting" President (from wiki)
Ronald was just playing another role like "George Gipp" in "Knute Rockne All American" or Prof. Peter Boyd, in "Bedtime For Bonzo"

Gayle in MD
11-13-2007, 11:03 AM
There is a new book out, can't recall the authors name right now, a known White House reporter during the Ford administration, and I think it's called, "After I'm gone" as it is to some degree about things that Ford told him, in confidence, which he agreed not to write about until after Ford was gone. I think Betty was in on this agreement, too, somehow. Apparently Ford, and also many heads of other countries, were not impressed with Reagan's lack of curiosity, and his limited intellect. They saw him as an excellent front man, great personality, likeable, effective speaker, but certainly not a man of broad intellectual power.

It would probably be an interesting read. I always saw Reagan, and Bush Junior, as just figure heads, and who in their right mind could listen to Bushspeak, and think he had any innate intelligence? He's such a dufus! /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

SKennedy
11-13-2007, 11:18 AM
Give me Reagan over "broad intellectual power" any time. Isn't it convenient that libs always proclaim the great intelligence of democratic presidents, yet all republican presidents were all just a bunch of baffons. Reagan was much smarter than you give him credit for...and so is Bush.....Bushspeak aside. Guess you have never made a mistake when speaking? Ford couldn't walk! Chevy Chase made a career out of imitating Ford's ability to walk. Be real here.....you don't get to become President of the US by being a dumb a_ _.
Every time I agree with Gayle on an issue, I can feel my intellect rise. Of course, this happens all too infrequently. Therefore, my IQ is currently only at 42. But, that's pretty darn good for a southerner (Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter the convenient exceptions of course).

wolfdancer
11-13-2007, 11:18 AM
The connection being that Reagan could remember his lines...Jr. can not
AND RR may have been mentally sound when he first got elected, but unfortunately Alzheimer's claimed him as a victim.
And if you Google " is Bush going mad?"...you'll have reading material for the whole weekend....One claim is his deteriorating speech patterns....
I don't buy into that though....I think he was a ***idiot before he got elected.

wolfdancer
11-13-2007, 11:27 AM
Wow !! I had you pegged at around 60...but as they say
"never overestimate the intelligence of the (southern)American
people"
Now in your list of exceptions, you forgot to include
Billy Carter....who is still quoted to this day amongst the literati
“Marijuana is like Coors beer. If you could buy the damn stuff at a Georgia filling station, you'd decide you wouldn't want it.”
“Yes, sir. I'm a real Southern boy. I got a red neck, white socks, and Blue Ribbon beer.”
Beer is not a good cocktail-party drink, especially in a home where you don't know where the bathroom is”
“My mother went into the Peace Corps when she was sixty-eight. My one sister is a motorcycle freak, my other sister is a Holy Roller evangelist and my brother is running for president. I'm the only sane one in the family.”

SKennedy
11-13-2007, 01:40 PM
Remember Billy Beer? I should have bought a 6-pack and left it unopened. Wonder what it would be worth today.

And, he was right about pot! Although I am a conservative republican, I think they should legalize pot...or greatly expand it's approval for medicinal purposes. And I use to drink a lot of Pabst (blue ribbon).

wolfdancer
11-13-2007, 02:03 PM
We have the Mormons to blame for not being able to light up legally.

SKennedy
11-13-2007, 02:24 PM
I can't remember and if I could, not sure I would trust the memories, but seems to me that pot use to really help me in my pool game. I'd try it (pot), but I hear the new stuff is much stronger than the alfalfa-cut stuff we use to smoke. Genetically enhanced? I'd really be paranoid on the good stuff....think Gayle and LWW were cohorts and both gunning for me or something....and I'd gain 20 lbs from the munchies. And I'd go back to drinking the good wine...Boone's Farm Wild Mountain (with a straw). Yep...I miss the good old days...

Drop1
11-13-2007, 02:44 PM
You forgot "Silver Satin" "Thunder Bird"and "Wild root" hair oil,strained through a thick piece of French bread,and that face under a blue light,calling you back.

SKennedy
11-13-2007, 02:56 PM
I've heard of Thunder Bird, but as for the others....you must be older than I am. Of course, growing up in east Texas, I had good old Champion bourbon, home made corn whiskey from the home town of Lady Bird Johnson (Karnack), and Pearl beer.

wolfdancer
11-13-2007, 04:05 PM
Silver Satin I grew up on in Boston...$ 2.00 a quart and worth every penny of it. One Silver Satin party I attended was at an apt, that had been made out of one half of the Oliver Wendall Holmes Ballroom..ah, if only the great man were there himself to join in the revelry ...I'm sure it would have finished his career as a Judge.
Great quote by him:
"Young man, the secret of my success is that
at an early age I discovered that I was not God."

And who can forget:
"What's the word?
Thunderbird
What's the price?
.50 twice"
In the Bay Area it was Mountain Castle, a gift from the God, Bacchus!!
Here we are in the middle of a Mountain Castle party...as you can tell, things are going swimmingly
Nice to know that I am not the only oenophile on board here


http://www.waltm.net/bacchus1.jpg

wolfdancer
11-13-2007, 04:41 PM
Ah, well Mountain Castle at $2.99 a bottle is outrageously inviting, beginning with an intensely hedonistic nose that shows off the floral characteristics of the vineyard. Deep raspberry and strawberry notes, loads of spice and a silky mouth feel give it a generous, complex mid-palate that leads to a stunningly long, lingering finish.

Deeman3
11-13-2007, 04:54 PM
Boones Farm, Amarillo Texas...1970 AD...79 little cents a bottle. Bad stuff, worse dreams.....nothing like strawberry flavored, rotten apple wine to get your gord gonging....

Boones Farm, LBJ, Viet Nam, 1971...$5.00 a bottle and nothig ever tasted better...Nothing like good apple wine to get your M-16 gummed up....

wolfdancer
11-13-2007, 05:23 PM
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I wasn't in the war, but after a few weeks at sea, distilled Torpedo juice, with any flavor Kool Aid, also refreshes the palate...
yeah, we did drink the kool aid in them days...no room to store soft drinks.

Chopstick
11-14-2007, 08:37 AM
You guys are forgetting the infamous MD20-20.

SKennedy
11-14-2007, 10:52 AM
Perspectives are important aren't they! Wine...women...I use to think there were ugly women. Until I spent about 3 months at sea with about 150 men and never saw a woman. They are all beautiful....i just prefer some over others.