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johnwoods
12-01-2007, 08:30 PM
I came across a superb site!! Thought you might be able to tell me whether its worth buying the CD.
Its a manual written by a Billiard Fitter and covers all aspects of covering your own tables.
www.easy-snooker.co.uk (http://www.easy-snooker.co.uk)

BigRigTom
12-03-2007, 07:11 AM
Nope not worth it.
This site shows you how to do it for free, on line now, with no waiting.
Recovering your table (http://www.refelting.com/)
My friend and I recoved mine with Simonis 860 just recently and it came out great...better than the pro did it previously who charged me $300 labor.
BigRigTom's 1974 Brunswick Sierra Pro 8 Foot with Simonis 860 (http://www.hardingersystems.com/images/BigRigTom's-74-Brunswick-redone-.jpg)
http://www.hardingersystems.com/images/BigRigTom's-74-Brunswick-redone-.jpg

wolfdancer
12-03-2007, 11:12 AM
Tom, thanks for the link....might try to do that myself one of these days. I hope you got a nice stretch on the table cloth. Nice looking table....nothing beats an old Brunswick.

BigRigTom
12-03-2007, 11:44 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote wolfdancer:</font><hr> Tom, thanks for the link....might try to do that myself one of these days. I hope you got a nice stretch on the table cloth. Nice looking table....nothing beats an old Brunswick. <hr /></blockquote>

Recovering a table was a first for both my friend and I, we are both pretty handy but he has me beat by a country mile. He can do just about anything and he is somewhat of a perfectionist to boot.
I would not have attempted it by my self but the two us got it done in one day. We DID get a good stretch on the cloth and it was fairly simple as long as you just take your time but it does require 2 people to do it right, unless you have some pretty sophisticated tools (which we didn't have). He brought over his air impact staple gun it was a great asset and is highly recommended.

The hardest part was pulling out the old staples one at a time. There were hundreds of them and I did most of them myself. I had blisters on both hands for a couple of weeks after, even though I used gloves most of the time.
It was all worth it though and my table plays like a Gold Crown III...just a bit smaller.
I love it though and it makes the transition from the bar boxes to the 9 footers a breeze.

PS: That web site I mentioned before saved us a lot of indecision about how to do what. We had a good idea what to expect and he explains some of the "DON'Ts as well. I had my lap top sitting on a bar stool right next to the table so we could look at the site while we worked. It was a great help.

Rackum_n_Crackum
12-03-2007, 01:44 PM
GREAT link, the only thing to add is be careful when stretching the cloth, the procedure they listed is pretty generic, when I did my table with Brunswick Centennial Cloth, they have a DETAILED stretching sequence they wanted me to follow..Ov course being an ex carpet installer probably makes this stuff a little easier to follow /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Paul_Mon
12-04-2007, 06:00 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rackum_n_Crackum:</font><hr> GREAT link, the only thing to add is be careful when stretching the cloth, the procedure they listed is pretty generic, when I did my table with Brunswick Centennial Cloth, they have a DETAILED stretching sequence they wanted me to follow..Ov course being an ex carpet installer probably makes this stuff a little easier to follow /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Good point about the cloth. I've done a few tables, all Gold Crowns and all with Simonis. It's almost impossible to stretch the cloth too tight. The other exception I have with that site is their level recommendation. I used a pair of 6" Starrett machinist levels. They work just fine, as do playing cards as shims under the slates.

Paul Mon

DickLeonard
12-04-2007, 11:23 AM
Wolfdancer I saw Al Conte recovering an room and he was wearing surgical gloves. Seems there is no slip with them. Something that I had never thought of.####

BigRigTom
12-04-2007, 04:11 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote DickLeonard:</font><hr> Wolfdancer I saw Al Conte recovering an room and he was wearing surgical gloves. Seems there is no slip with them. Something that I had never thought of.#### <hr /></blockquote>

Cool Idea!
Makes sense to me!

johnwoods
12-05-2007, 11:31 AM
Hello again.
I checked out the site that you recommended www.refelting.com. (http://www.refelting.com.)
I asked a pro billiard fitter and there are some serious dicrepencies in the recovering site!
One of them is that it tells you to use wax to fill the joints and then heat the joint.
Wax is actually the worst thing to use as on a really hot day it will melt- opening the slate gaps.
Also, when you iron the table the wax will come through the cloth.
I purchased the manual on www.easy-snooker.co.uk (http://www.easy-snooker.co.uk) and i have just recovered my table.
The manual i purchsed tells you to use isopon (a special filler) also the manual contains info on recovering snooker tables as well as junior pool tables. It's much more informative as well!
I am happy with it-
The manual is superb!!

stikapos
12-05-2007, 12:32 PM
I noticed the "electric chair" in the corner! Looks like a cool room and a nice job.

tim

BigRigTom
12-05-2007, 04:49 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote johnwoods:</font><hr> Hello again.
I checked out the site that you recommended www.refelting.com. (http://www.refelting.com.)
I asked a pro billiard fitter and there are some serious dicrepencies in the recovering site!
One of them is that it tells you to use wax to fill the joints and then heat the joint.
Wax is actually the worst thing to use as on a really hot day it will melt- opening the slate gaps.
Also, when you iron the table the wax will come through the cloth.
I purchased the manual on www.easy-snooker.co.uk (http://www.easy-snooker.co.uk) and i have just recovered my table.
The manual i purchsed tells you to use isopon (a special filler) also the manual contains info on recovering snooker tables as well as junior pool tables. It's much more informative as well!
I am happy with it-
The manual is superb!! <hr /></blockquote>

Cool,
Let us know how it works out and post some pictures of your table when you finish it.

johnwoods
12-05-2007, 07:47 PM
Hello Tim!
Sorry, you lost me mate- on the electric chair in the corner bit.
Please explain??
Thanks
John

stikapos
12-06-2007, 06:59 AM
No problem John. A chair in a pool room is often referred to as the "electric chair", as that is where your opponent sits. It is called that, presumably, because the shooter is trying to keep the cuffs' on you by not letting you shoot. I don't know where usage of the term started, but its used often by pool commentators during matches.

Regards,
tim

johnwoods
02-10-2008, 07:34 PM
Hello
Thanks for the info on the "electric chair".
I purchased the snooker/ pool manual from Easy Snooker (http://www.easysnooker.co.uk)
Just to say that i have never covered a table before and i did my one in just over three hours saving a small fortune.
Manual is superb as it goes through the stages and give you phone support- super!
Regards

Bambu
02-13-2008, 11:26 AM
Nice job, tom. Thanks for the link. I plan on trying to recover my bar table soon, so that link should help. It doesnt look like you have room to shoot though, or is that just a weird perspective in the pic?

BigRigTom
02-13-2008, 11:46 AM
There is plenty of room...I actually have enough room there to put in a 9 ft Gold Crown someday.

I see what you mean in the picture but it is a bit of an optical allusion...If I wanted it I could make over 6' available all around a 9 foot brunswick.

As I have it now....I have a lot of other junk sitting around and there is one point on the left side of the head of the table that you have to watch the pub table if the ball is snuggled into that one corner and on the rail. The rest of the time the only obstacles are my 2 golden retreivers who want to get under my feet or under my cue sometimes looking up at me as I shoot. /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif
I use that to practice my focus and concentration plus they are just plain good company. I can say anything I want to Max &amp; Tara and they never get angry, they never disagree or talk back and are always ready to snuggle no matter how bad I shoot. /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

catscradle
02-13-2008, 12:12 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote BigRigTom:</font><hr> Nope not worth it.
This site shows you how to do it for free, on line now, with no waiting.
Recovering your table (http://www.refelting.com/)
My friend and I recoved mine with Simonis 860 just recently and it came out great...better than the pro did it previously who charged me $300 labor.
BigRigTom's 1974 Brunswick Sierra Pro 8 Foot with Simonis 860 (http://www.hardingersystems.com/images/BigRigTom's-74-Brunswick-redone-.jpg)

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I sure wish that site didn't use the term "refelt" and "refelting", drives me crazy. It isn't felt, it is wool cloth. I don't know why that term irritates me so much.

Bambu
02-14-2008, 12:15 AM
Thanks tom. I figured it was the camera angle, but I just had to ask. Come to think of it though, my room looks similar. (You can click my profile if you want to see it.)

Think its hard to shoot with 2 dogs around? Try a 3 year old. All the kid does is grab balls from the box and throw them at my shots. And the little bastard rolls em accurately, and faster than I can shoot!

BigRigTom
02-14-2008, 09:01 AM
Bambu!
That is GREAT looking table.
You LUCKY DOG!
O Well, some day I will have the extra cash and I too will get a GC! /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Bambu
02-14-2008, 06:27 PM
Thanks Tom. Actually, they dont cost that much. I got mine from a brunswick dealer for 3800. That was about 5 years ago though, so factor inflation in. Its a refurb, but looks new when you get it. Without the black rails the price goes down, too. And that includes the install, the cloth, balls, wall rack, house cues, etc.