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Gayle in MD
12-27-2007, 10:00 AM
http://www.juancole.com/2007/12/top-ten-myths-about-iraq-2007.html

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bamadog
12-27-2007, 01:57 PM
This has about as much credibility as some of your other proclamations like: "Petraeus is a liar", and "the surge is a failure".
You Libs are desperately trying to paint our success in Iraq as a defeat.
You need a defeat there to win the election here, because as usual, the Dems have no ideas that make sense.

LWW
12-27-2007, 02:29 PM
Dawg, did you honestly expect someone to report an opinion piece as an opinion piece?

That's just dumb to expect man.

They can't tell opinion from fact or emotion from reality.

That's why they start attacks and then howl at the Moon when their shiite backsplashs in their face.

LWW

jayalley
12-28-2007, 01:20 PM
Using Juan Cole as a spokesman for anything would be pretty hilarious, if it wasn't sickening. This is a guy whom even the lefties at Yale denied tenure because of his blatant anti-semitic vitriol. He was an obscure 2nd tier academician until he started blogging hatred toward Jews. That earned him hero status with the usual extreme Left Wing crowd, including our resident arbiter of international morals from MD. This creep should be a pariah, not someone some dingbat posts on NPR. Nice job, Gayle in Arabia, er, MD....

Even Christopher Hitchens called Professor Cole out after the Juanster defended Ahmadinejad. I also notice that Gayle loves the gaggle over at "The Nation" and now I know why...she feels so at home among the Israel bashers.

Gee, I wonder why I don't waste more time posting here. Hmmm...

LWW
12-28-2007, 01:42 PM
Good points all.

One thing that National Socialists, liberal moonbats, and Al Qaeda all have in common is there hatred of jews.

LWW

Qtec
12-29-2007, 05:25 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote jayalley:</font><hr> Using Juan Cole as a spokesman for anything would be pretty hilarious, if it wasn't sickening. This is a guy whom even the lefties at Yale denied tenure because of his blatant anti-semitic vitriol. He was an obscure 2nd tier academician until he started blogging hatred toward Jews. That earned him hero status with the usual extreme Left Wing crowd, including our resident arbiter of international morals from MD. This creep should be a pariah, not someone some dingbat posts on NPR. Nice job, Gayle in Arabia, er, MD....

Even Christopher Hitchens called Professor Cole out after the Juanster defended Ahmadinejad. I also notice that Gayle loves the gaggle over at "The Nation" and now I know why...she feels so at home among the Israel bashers.

Gee, I wonder why I don't waste more time posting here. Hmmm... <hr /></blockquote>

[ QUOTE ]
John "Juan" Ricardo I. Cole (born October 1952 in Albuquerque, New Mexico) is an American professor of modern Middle Eastern and South Asian history at the University of Michigan. As a commentator on Middle Eastern affairs, he has appeared in print and on television, and testified before the United States Senate. He has published several peer-reviewed books on the modern Middle East and is a translator of both Arabic and Persian. Since 2002, he has written a weblog, Informed Comment (formerly Informed Consent).


Cole was awarded Fulbright-Hays fellowships to India (1982) and to Egypt (1985-1986). From 1999 until 2004, Juan Cole was the editor of The International Journal of Middle East Studies. He has served in professional offices for the American Institute of Iranian Studies.[3] He was elected president of the Middle East Studies Association of North America in November 2004.[4] In 2006, he received the James Aronson Award for Social Justice Journalism administered by Hunter College. [5]

* 1975 B.A. History and Literature of Religions, Northwestern University
* 1978 M.A. Arabic Studies/History, American University in Cairo
* 1984 Ph.D. Islamic Studies, University of California Los Angeles
* 1984-1990 Assistant Professor of History, University of Michigan
* 1990-1995 Associate Professor of History, University of Michigan
* 1992-1995 Director, Center for Middle Eastern and North African Studies, University of Michigan
* 1995- Professor of History, University of Michigan

[edit] Yale appointment

In 2006 Cole was nominated to teach at Yale University and was approved by both Yale's sociology and history departments. However, the senior appointments committee overruled the departments, and Cole was not appointed.

According to "several Yale faculty members," the decision to overrule Cole's approval was "highly unusual."[6] Yale Deputy Provost Charles Long stated that "Tenure appointments at Yale are very complicated and they go through several stages, and [the candidates] can fail to pass at any of the stages. Every year, at least one and often more fail at one of these levels, and that happened in this case." [7] The history department vote was 13 yes, 7 no, with 3 abstensions.[8] Professors interviewed by the Yale Daily News said "the faculty appeared sharply divided."[7]

Yale Historian Paula Hyman commented that the deep divisions in the appointment committee were the primary reasons that Cole was rejected: "There was also concern, aside from the process, about the nature of his blog and what it would be like to have a very divisive colleague."[7] Yale political science professor Steven B. Smith commented, "It would be very comforting for Cole's supporters to think that this got steamrolled because of his controversial blog opinions. The blog opened people's eyes as to what was going on."[9] Another Yale historian, John Merriman, said of Cole's rejection: "In this case, academic integrity clearly has been trumped by politics."[10]

In an interview on Democracy Now!, Cole noted that he had never applied for the Yale job: "Some people at Yale asked if they could look at me for a senior appointment. I said, 'Look all you want.' So that's up to them. Senior professors are like baseball players. You’re being looked at by other teams all the time. If it doesn't result in an offer, then nobody takes it seriously." He described the so-called "scandal" surrounding his nomination as "a tempest in a teapot" that had been exaggerated by "neo-con journalists": "Who knows what their hiring process is like, what things they were looking for?"[11] <hr /></blockquote>

Anyone who criticizes Israel is an anti-semitic?

Q

LWW
12-29-2007, 06:59 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr> Anyone who criticizes Israel is an anti-semitic?

Q <hr /></blockquote>
Nobody said that.

But you knew that and said it anyway.

Why?

Because you can't make a point unless it is in opposition to a strawman of your own creation.

Why do you do this?

Because you are a moonbat.

LWW

Qtec
12-29-2007, 04:14 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote jayalley:</font><hr> .whom even the lefties at Yale denied tenure because of his blatant anti-semitic vitriol.


..Even Christopher Hitchens called Professor Cole out

Gee, I wonder why I don't waste more time posting here. Hmmm... <hr /></blockquote>

LOL

The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice is a book by Christopher Hitchens about Mother Teresa's life and work. From the controversial title (using a double entendre to refer to the actions of a celibate nun towards the people with whom she works), the book criticizes Teresa as a political opportunist who adopted the guise of a saint in order to raise money to spread an extreme and aggressive version of Catholicism.


Hitchens is noted for his acerbic wit and his noisy departure from the Anglo-American political left. He was formerly a Trotskyist and a fixture in the left wing publications of Britain and America.[1] But a series of disagreements beginning in the early 1990s led to his resignation from The Nation shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks.[2] He is also known for his ardent admiration of George Orwell[3] and Thomas Jefferson,[4] and for his excoriating critiques of Mother Teresa,[5] Henry Kissinger and Bill Clinton.

Hitchens' idiosyncratic ideas and positions preclude easy classification. He no longer considers himself a Trotskyist or a socialist.[6] He is a vociferous critic of what he describes as "fascism with an Islamic face," and his critics have been known to describe him as a "neoconservative". Hitchens, however, refuses to embrace this designation[7], insisting that "I am not a conservative of any kind". In 2004, Hitchens stated that neoconservative support for US intervention in Iraq convinced him that he was "on the same side as the neo-conservatives" when it came to contemporary foreign policy issues.[8] He has also been known to refer to his association with "temporary neocon allies".[9]


So a Trotskyist flip-flopping neo-con sympathizer is your proof that JC is anti-semitic?

LMAO

Q

Qtec
12-29-2007, 04:28 PM
I am saying it.


L makes claims about JC that don't stand up to the facts. He offers no links no proof - just like you.

His main and only source, Christopher Eric Hitchens, has just been show by me to be a moonbat. ie What brainless moron in their right mind would have the audacity to criticize Mother Theresa. It shows to me a man with a massive lack of judgment and no sense of decency.

Q

LWW
12-29-2007, 04:51 PM
WTH are you babbling about now?

LWW

wolfdancer
12-29-2007, 05:24 PM
Good post Q !!!!

wolfdancer
12-29-2007, 05:40 PM
I you reread the non-reply that was posted to rebut your report....you'll understand that there "ain't no peanuts in that shell"

Qtec
12-30-2007, 06:04 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote LWW:</font><hr> Good points all.

One thing that National Socialists, liberal moonbats, and Al Qaeda all have in common is there hatred of jews.

LWW <hr /></blockquote>

jayalley called JC an anti-semitic without providing any proof that this is so.
You agreed.
Instead of countering JC's points you both choose to ignore them and attack the messenger.
[ Its the intulectual equivilent of sticking your fingers in your ear and shouting, "I don't hear you. I'm not listening. Na na, na-na na."


If Israel is such a good ally, why do they spend their precious resources on spying on the USA?
video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo)

Would Israel have stopped 9/11 even if they could have?

Their biggest threat, Saddam, is now gone- paid for in dollars and blood by the US citizen. Their next biggest threat, Iran, is being leaned on heavily by the US .
They have attacked Lebanon, the Gaza strip and stolen land in the West B and have built a huge wall around this stolen land- at the US taxpayer's expense.
Under GW they can do anything they want to because GW himself doesn't recognize Internation treaties if it doesn't suit him. [eg The Geneva Con ] He has no moral or ethical argument to stop the Israelis from doing what they want.
eg, GW says, "you can't just pick up people from the street that you suspect, throw them in prison, torture them and then try them in a military court!"
Israel, "Why not, you do it!"



The huge Jewish Lobby has huge power inside the Govt and any dissent is met with the accusation - "he/she is an anti-semitic".

Say its not true.

Q............prediction...according to LWW, I am now an anti-semitic. LOL

Gayle in MD
12-30-2007, 01:38 PM
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The huge Jewish Lobby has huge power inside the Govt and any dissent is met with the accusation - "he/she is an anti-semitic".

<hr /></blockquote>

Truer words were never spoken. A huge reason for the cockeyed "Project For The New American Century" that unamerican fairy tale that got us into this mess in the first place. Straight out of the American Enterprise Institute, full of Jewish members, and financed largely by wealthy Jewish owned corporate contributors, who are now making huge profits on this war. /ccboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Every fact must be turned into some insulting accusation...it's all the sheep have.

Bah Bah Bah...

bamadog
12-30-2007, 03:10 PM
Gayle, you wouldn't recognize a fact if it slapped you upside your anti-Semitic face.
All you know is hate and vitriol.
And it's eating you up inside.

LWW
12-31-2007, 07:01 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr>If Israel is such a good ally, why do they spend their precious resources on spying on the USA?<hr /></blockquote>
Probably because they are a nation state, alliances change, and with the moonbats in congress we can't be seen as a reliable ally.

LWW

LWW
12-31-2007, 07:03 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr>Q............prediction...according to LWW, I am now an anti-semitic. LOL<hr /></blockquote>
No, that would require the mental acumen to be a human and not a bot.

You, my friend, can rest easy that you are still a moonbat.

LWW

LWW
12-31-2007, 07:07 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr> Anyone who criticizes Israel is an anti-semitic?

Q <hr /></blockquote>
Nobody said that. But, anyone who supports those pledged to the destruction of Israel is. They are also a moonbat.

LWW

Qtec
12-31-2007, 07:43 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote LWW:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr> Anyone who criticizes Israel is an anti-semitic?

Q <hr /></blockquote>
Nobody said that. But, anyone who supports those pledged to the destruction of Israel is. They are also a moonbat.

LWW <hr /></blockquote>


[ QUOTE ]
New antisemitism

Main article: New antisemitism

In recent years some scholars have advanced the concept of New antisemitism, coming simultaneously from the left, the far right, and radical Islam, which tends to focus on opposition to the creation of a Jewish homeland in the State of Israel,[6] and argue that the language of Anti-Zionism and criticism of Israel are used to attack the Jews more broadly. In this view, the proponents of the new concept believe that criticisms of Israel and Zionism are often disproportionate in degree and unique in kind, and attribute this to antisemitism. The concept has been criticized by those who argue it is used to stifle debate and deflect attention from legitimate criticism of the State of Israel, and, by associating anti-Zionism with antisemitism, is intended to taint anyone opposed to Israeli actions and policies. Due to this quick labelling of people as anti-semetic a new term was coined 'Goyist' or 'Goyism' to refer to racist people who lable others anti-semetic <hr /></blockquote>



Q

Qtec
12-31-2007, 08:19 AM
Hate?

Watch any video. web page (http://www.alternativenews.org/video/sadaa/clips.html)

Try this one neighbors (http://www.actv.co.il/portal/eportal.asp?movind=332&amp;show=1)

Q................two sides to every coin.

bamadog
12-31-2007, 11:00 AM
Since the Israelis built the wall, terrorist attacks have decreased by 90%.
Or maybe you don't think the Israelis have the right to defend themselves?

DickLeonard
12-31-2007, 01:29 PM
Qtec my daughter who did her Post Doc at Yale said the Professors at the Univ at Buffalo were much smarter than those at Yale.

Yale is highly overrated as an Academic Inst and their alumni Presidents of the US are living proof of that.####

jayalley
12-31-2007, 04:19 PM
Good Heavens, Gayle, read what you just wrote (!) or ask a friend to read it to you and speak honestly. Even your waterboys like Qtec shouldn't want to defend this calumny.
"...financed by wealthy Jewish corporate contributors who are now making huge profits on this war.."
This is the clever way in which the Germans made it sound so "reasonable" in the 1930's. I don't need anyone to cut and paste a selected definition of "new Anti-semitism" to be disturbed by this because your hatred is the "good old fashioned" kind. I accused you of anti-semitism (not done flippantly) based on my reading of your rantings and this entry only supports my stance. I don't think that you are a harmless moonbat...I think that you are really sick and can't even see it. I am not a big poster on this site, I know, but I don't need to have 2,000 entries to be upset by bigotry. That you have a little coterie of the usual defenders doesn't change that fact.