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LWW
01-05-2008, 05:53 AM
I ran this in another thread, but I want to ensure as many people see it as I can.

Much is made about war profiteering, but few dig deeper than the catchphrase and the general idea that it is a bad thing.

If you do dig a little deeper you will find that the man paying people to run around acting like idjits claiming everyone else is a war profiteer. They are the man who is making huge profits from the war never being won or lost. That man's name is George Soros.

Q -As an addendum, who is the DNC beholden to?
A - George Soros. (http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=275267411712756) Out of Chenney, Bush, and Soros who holds the most in defense and Halliburton stocks? George Soros. (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54532), to the point of being the ONLY one of the three.

Q -Who benefits from the insurrection in Iraq being put down? Bush/Cheney as it helps pave the way for another RNC admin?
A - George Soros. (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54532)

Q -Who benefits from the insurrection continuing?
A - George Soros. (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54532) who profits and the DNC who carries the prop, sorry I guess I should have said flag, into another election.

Q -Who benefits from the insurrection lasting as long as it can?
A - George Soros. (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54532)

Q -Who is the money behind the antiwar protestors who have just enough money to keep things stirred but not enough to be truly effective?
A - George Soros. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_soros)

Q -Who has spent millions in media to convince people this is all a good thing?
A - George Soros. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_soros)

Q -Who is in the USA because of market manipulation convictions in France?
A - George Soros. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_soros)

Q -Who broke the Bank of England with similar moves in the UK?
A - George Soros. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_soros)

Q -Who claimed that they had bought and paid for the Democratic Party?
A - George Soros. (http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=275267411712756)

Q - Will the American left ever wake up to what they are aiding and abetting?
A - I hope so.

If you have read this far you are one curious to find the needle of thruth in the haystack of shiite that the MSM slings daily ... often at the request and payment of seditionists such as George Soros.

If you answered George Soros to any of these questions you are probably someone who follows news with good impartiality.

If you answered Bush or Cheney to any of the above questions, you might be a moonbat.

George Soros is the greatest living threat to America, even more so than UBL in that he has more cash and more fanatics and a far better understanding of how America works.

The only real difference is that UBL wants us to fall and die. Soros wants us to fall intact because that's where the money is.

LWW

nAz
01-06-2008, 12:25 AM
lww fact check this for me?
seem like your wrong about Cheney not having any shares.

lets see war started... 2003-4? and Soros bought his shares in 2006...and represent about 2% of his total investment portfolio.
http://wonkette.com/politics/george-soros/george-soros-buys-2-million-shares-of-halliburton-241746.php

http://www.digg.com/2008_us_elections/Cheneys_Shares_at_Halliburton_up_3281
Cheneys Shares at Halliburton up 3281%

www.corpwatch.org (http://www.corpwatch.org) — Cheney continues to hold 433,333 Halliburton stock options.Auditors found the firm marked up meal prices for troops and inflated gas prices in a deal with a Kuwaiti supplier. The company built the American prison at Guantanamo Bay.

LWW
01-06-2008, 05:00 AM
Soros is easily 50 times wealthier than Soros and you are confirming Cheney owns no Halliburton ... and your point again was what exactly?

LWW

Bobbyrx
01-06-2008, 10:14 AM
From wiki:
In recent years the company has become the center of several controversies involving the 2003 Iraq War and the company's ties to U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney. Cheney retired from the company during the 2000 U.S. presidential election campaign with a severance package worth $34 million.[23] As of 2004, he had received $398,548 in deferred compensation from Halliburton while Vice President.[24] Concerns have been raised regarding the possible conflict of interest resulting from Cheney's deferred compensation and stock options from Halliburton. However, before entering office in 2001, Cheney bought an insurance policy that guaranteed a fixed amount of deferred payments from Halliburton each year for five years so that the payments would not depend on the company's fortunes.[24] He is legally bound by an agreement he signed which turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities. The agreement specifies that 40% will go to the University of Wyoming (in Cheney's home state), 40% will go to George Washington University's medical faculty to be used for tax-exempt charitable purposes, and 20% will go to Capital Partners for Education. The agreement states that it is "irrevocable and may not be terminated, waived or amended," preventing Cheney from taking back the options at a later date.[24]
<font color="red">So, Cheney has turned over power of attorney to a third party. He has no control over when they are exercised nor will he ever see a single penny from them. Everything goes to charity. </font color>

hondo
01-06-2008, 10:28 AM
Well, God bless his little pea-pickin heart!
Cheney, the humanitarian.

LWW
01-06-2008, 10:29 AM
Thanks.

I was saving that stake in case the corpse of this myth arose again ... but certainly no harm done in "driving" the "point" in so that it can be "taken to heart". /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

LWW

LWW
01-06-2008, 10:38 AM
We all contain Divinity and Satanic portions to ourselves my friend. Is it not best to encourage the finer portions of humanity and correct the weaker ones?

The bottom line remains is that the man credited with being behind the "peace" movement is making millions from the war while the guy blamed for being behind the war isn't making a dime himself.

Without regards to being pro or anti war it should disturb us all that the MSM can distort society's POV to such enormous misconceptions of reality as the charade that is being perpetrated by MOVEON.ORG and it's minions.

LWW

Qtec
01-06-2008, 11:15 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote LWW:</font><hr> Soros is easily 50 times wealthier than Soros <hr /></blockquote>
I think you mean Cheney?
The fact that Soros is wealthier than Cheney is irrelevant.
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote LWW:</font><hr> and you are confirming Cheney owns no Halliburton ... and your point again was what exactly?

LWW <hr /></blockquote>

Once again someone takes the trouble to contest one of your posts and provide links to support their standpoint and you dismiss it with a non-nonsensical flippant comment.
Did you read this?
web page (http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12966)


Cheney was still being paid by them and had share options when the Govt handed H a no-bid contract.If Cheney and Haliburton are not a clear conflict of interest example, I don't know what is.

Q

[ QUOTE ]
Cheney told "Meet the Press" in 2003 that he didn't have any financial ties to the firm.

“Since I left Halliburton to become George Bush's vice president, I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest," the Vice President said. "I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years.”

Cheney continues to received a deferred salary from the company. According to financial disclosure forms, he was paid $205,298 in 2001; $162,392 in 2002; $178,437 in 2003; and $194,852 in 2004. <hr /></blockquote>

LWW
01-06-2008, 11:36 AM
Bobbyrx beat me to it as I knew what your reply would be ... one not founded in reality but in a twist of reality.

Cheney de facto does not own them as the monetary benefits of exercising those options would not benefit him in any way.

Nice try, but ... Soros is a war profiteer and Cheney isn't case closed.

Now, would you believe that the biggest tax dodger of the major candidates is John Edwards ... yes the same John Edwards who moans incessantly about the unfairness of the 2 Americas.

LWW

Bobbyrx
01-06-2008, 04:59 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr>

Cheney was still being paid by them and had share options when the Govt handed H a no-bid contract.If Cheney and Haliburton are not a clear conflict of interest example, I don't know what is.

Q
<font color="red">Cheney bought an insurance policy that guaranteed a fixed amount of deferred payments from Halliburton each year for five years so that the payments would not depend on the company's fortunes. He is legally bound by an agreement he signed which turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities. So if the government gave Halliburton 10 gazillion dollars in no bid contracts or if Halliburton went out of business, Cheney would make the exact same thing. What he gets (or got) after he retired has nothing to do with the profitability of the company</font color>
Cheney told "Meet the Press" in 2003 that he didn't have any financial ties to the firm.

“Since I left Halliburton to become George Bush's vice president, I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest," the Vice President said. "I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years.”

Cheney continues to received a deferred salary from the company. According to financial disclosure forms, he was paid $205,298 in 2001; $162,392 in 2002; $178,437 in 2003; and $194,852 in 2004. <font color="red">Which is the same thing he would have made if Halliburton went belly up in 2001. This is money he had already earned from the company </font color> <hr /></blockquote> <hr /></blockquote>

Qtec
01-07-2008, 05:38 AM
[ QUOTE ]
to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities <hr /></blockquote>

This could mean that Cheney gets the money from the original investment back. ie if the stocks were issued at $50 and sold at $60 the profit would be $10.

Cheney got between 20 and 34 million when he left H. Usually when you resign you don't get anything. Why should you?
If you would quit your job tomorrow would your boss say "Sorry too see you go ,let me just give you this pile of money..."........?

Q

LWW
01-07-2008, 05:47 AM
You really are clueless aren't you.

Here's how a stock option works. The stock is at $10 today. I have the option of buying 10,000 shares at the same $10 5 years from now. If the stock drops to $5 obviously I don't buy.

If it goes up to $20 a share then I buy and have an immediate $10/share profit should I choose to sell.

Now, let's put Cheney in. He buys the 10,000 shares at $10 each for $10,000,000. He immediately resells it for $20,000,000. He takes his original $10,000,000 back and gives the rest to charity.

IOW, he makes zero no matter how it works out and you have no point whatsoever yet you continue to argue in spite of being shown that you are wrong repeatedly over a series of years crossing at least 2 forums.

If you bring this lie up again in 6 months it will still be a lie.

LWW

LWW
01-07-2008, 05:49 AM
And let me add that after being shown the truth, and yes I know y'all have read it, not a single Bush hater will use even a lesser standard to judge Soros by.

When wil they awaken?

LWW