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ceebee
02-05-2008, 05:39 PM
Our illustrious [censored] leader has led our 2nd & 3rd level [censored] leaders down another path, to a $407 Billion Federal Budget Deficit.

Those folks just don't get it, reality has disappeared from their horizon. At what point does our country cave in from the debt?

You can bet your Bippee, our thieving leadership will be long gone with their ill-gotten gain.

But... where do they go to...?

wolfdancer
02-05-2008, 05:46 PM
But... where do they go to...?
Dubai ???
He has a budget??? Next thing you know, he'll be getting an honorary Doctorate from Wharton...even though he believes M1 is just a rifle.

LWW
02-05-2008, 06:22 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote wolfdancer:</font><hr> But... where do they go to...?
Dubai ???
He has a budget??? Next thing you know, he'll be getting an honorary Doctorate from Wharton...even though he believes M1 is just a rifle. <hr /></blockquote>
Notice that the OP made a very good point about a bad budget that the POTUS and congress agree on jointly and the fact that it sucks and their collusion hurts us all.

I agree with that.

Notice that you can't help but howl B-B-B-BUT B-B-B-BUSH! and gave the DNC congress an absolute pass, but you are a partisan.

LWW

Deeman3
02-06-2008, 08:23 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote ceebee:</font><hr> At what point does our country cave in from the debt?

<font color="blue"> January 2009 </font color>

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DickLeonard
02-06-2008, 08:38 AM
Deeman I am betting July.$$$$

Gayle in MD
02-06-2008, 09:00 AM
Iraq's economy is growing by 8%, and ours, only 1 1/2 % this year, and thqt prediction came before the present loan crisis.

There is over five trillion American dollars out there, that foreign countries have, and they're using it to come back and buy America.

The State Department lost 1.2 billion, that was supposed to be used to train Iraqi police, but instead, the corrupt Iraqi Government, used it to finance the insurgents. Rice blocked her people from testifying, unless they testified behind closed doors. Democrats are still fighting her.

If Americans would watch C-Span, Bush, Cheney, Rice would all be gone, and we'd be out of Iraq, yesterday.

Our troops are dying to prop up a corrupt government, that uses the billions we send them, to support the insurgents that are killing our people. Weapons, are being distributed to the same people, in the same country, the Bush invaded on WMD's, only now he's giving them to them, and they're killing our troops with them, all except for the comparatively small numbers which we are presently PAYING&lt; not to kill us.

The Embassy in Iraq, No Bid Contract, to First Kuwaiti, a corporation that kidnaps phillipinos, turns them into slaves, takes kick backs, and bribes, but Rice, gave them the no bid contract for the monstrous Embassy, in Iraq, to the tune of 600 million, and since Rice has provided no oversight of the State Department Contracts, they are behind schedule, and over budget by over 144 million dollars.

I have to laugh when I read the ignorant posts from some on this sight, about earmarks, overall a slight part of our budget, yet they never complain about spending 12 billion a month, in Iraq, mostly, to prop up a corrupt government, which uses our missing billions, to pay insurgents, to kill our troops. I have actually lost count of all the missing billions, but I've heard all the testimony regarding what those billions have been spent on, and mostly they have been spent to kill our troops.

If people watched live C-Span, our country would have a shot. Instead, they listen to people like Limpballs, Bush, Rice and Cheney, and say bah bah bah...

Our troops pay the price for this. We The People Are ALL Paying Daily For The Lies And Incompetence Of This Administration, but only with our tax dollars. Our troops are paying with their lives.

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in MD
02-06-2008, 11:32 AM
A 1.01 trillion dollar budget, while he has the nerve to yap about spending?

We don't even get the real truth about what this war will cost.

<font color="red">McCain is right about one thing, he doesn't know **** about economics. One can't discuss our deficits, without addressing this war, and tax cuts, paid for by borrowing money from foreing countries. And they want to make them permenent? What a joke! Permanent borrowing from other countries?

These Republicans are nuts! Spend now, borrow now, let the Americans of tomorrow pay for all of it. They don't even care about all the money they have lost! Billions! Then Bush vetoes money for hungry children. He's a PIG!

Gayle in Md. </font color>

cheesemouse
02-06-2008, 01:08 PM
Dear Gayle,

[ QUOTE ]
If people watched live C-Span, our country would have a shot. Instead, they listen to people like Limpballs, Bush, Rice and Cheney, and say bah bah bah...<hr /></blockquote>

While trying to stay above the fray of the circular dead end political debate that transpires here I couldn't help but notice the above quote. It is so true. What a great resource for those who want to edit there own brains....keep up the good work girl.

LWW
02-06-2008, 01:28 PM
I've never met a statist that didn't love gubmint ran media.

LWW

wolfdancer
02-06-2008, 02:09 PM
Notice that you can't help but howl B-B-B-BUT B-B-B-BUSH![/B] and gave the DNC congress an absolute pass, but you are a partisan.
And you are able to infer all that from my post? Do you have the gift of prescience, like a Jean Dixon, or would you say your particular talent is more akin to an Edgar Cayce reading?
I do howl Bush...omit the but, and don't stutter (do you, or do they call it stammering in your neck of the woods)
It's pretty well known that I am against Bush, and in favor of the Democrats....why do you keep bringing it up like it's a startling new revelation...or have you run out of base insults?????
And you felt the need to use Capitols for that sentence???
I suppose that is already pasted up over on AZB, along with the requisite "victory" claim?
Whatever floats your boat....but I really do feel sorry for you....for allowing such triviality to rule your life.

cheesemouse
02-06-2008, 02:29 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote LWW:</font><hr> I've never met a statist that didn't love gubmint ran media.

LWW <hr /></blockquote>

" CORPORATE INFORMATION
C-SPAN is a private, non-profit company, created in 1979 by the cable television industry as a public service. Our mission is to provide public access to the political process. C-SPAN receives no government funding; operations are funded by fees paid by cable and satellite affiliates who carry C-SPAN programming. "

Some things are quaranteed: Death, taxes, and LWW exposing his ass....:)

Deeman3
02-06-2008, 02:39 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote cheesemouse:</font><hr>" CORPORATE INFORMATION
C-SPAN is a private, non-profit company, created in 1979 by the cable television industry as a public service. Our mission is to provide public access to the political process. C-SPAN receives no government funding; operations are funded by fees paid by cable and satellite affiliates who carry C-SPAN programming. "

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<font color="blue"> If people watched C-Span on a regular basis, the entire government would be exposed and Republicans and Democrats alike would be driven from that hellhole they call Washington DC like peasants chasing Frankenstein up the castle.

Government is not a pretty sight. It is getting worse and will continue to do so. The right wants to elect the falsely brave and the left wants the outright corrupt. Both have become a popularity contest for people who have accomplished little. They make even peanut farmers look smarter.

We would be better off with Paris Hilton as presidnet than any we have seen so far. Can we start a movement? Could we write her in? </font color>

eg8r
02-06-2008, 03:34 PM
[ QUOTE ]
We would be better off with Paris Hilton as presidnet than any we have seen so far. Can we start a movement? Could we write her in? <hr /></blockquote> From what I understand, her grandfather has cut off her money supply and she no longer has enough to run for election. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

eg8r

Deeman3
02-06-2008, 04:18 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote eg8r:</font><hr> &lt;/font&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;font class="small"&gt;Quote:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;
We would be better off with Paris Hilton as presidnet than any we have seen so far. Can we start a movement? Could we write her in? <hr /></blockquote> From what I understand, her grandfather has cut off her money supply and she no longer has enough to run for election. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

eg8r <hr /></blockquote>

<font color="blue"> I hear there will be some intern openings in about January 20th of 2009. That might qualify her for the office. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif </font color>

LWW
02-06-2008, 05:37 PM
Which was brought into being by gubmint edict.


It's no different than local public access channels except on a grander scale.

LWW

eg8r
02-06-2008, 06:28 PM
Ahh, that would make Gayle so proud. Just like the old days. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

eg8r

heater451
02-06-2008, 08:18 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Deeman3:</font><hr> [. . .They make even peanut farmers look smarter.<hr /></blockquote>
Is that an insult to former President Carter?



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heater451
02-06-2008, 08:20 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Deeman3:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote eg8r:</font><hr> &lt;/font&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;font class="small"&gt;Quote:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;
We would be better off with Paris Hilton as presidnet than any we have seen so far. Can we start a movement? Could we write her in? <hr /></blockquote> From what I understand, her grandfather has cut off her money supply and she no longer has enough to run for election. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

eg8r <hr /></blockquote>

<font color="blue"> I hear there will be some intern openings in about January 20th of 2009. That might qualify her for the office. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif </font color> <hr /></blockquote><font color="red">Now that's low, recommending that Paris Hilton be an "opening". And I thought better of you, Deeman.

j/k</font color>


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Gayle in MD
02-07-2008, 08:35 AM
I can assure you none of the righties on here watch C -Span. Yesterday, Mueller plainly stated that our armed forces are significantly stressed, and that Bush's "Surge" prevents proper training and compromises our ability to address future threats.

Bush doesn't even include the costs of this illegal occupation of Iraq, in his annual budgets, it is hidden in emergency supplements. The true costs are undeterminable, and not until he is out of office will we get the real numbers.

Americans are being fleesed by Republicans, who continually prop up dictators, and spread arms around to radical groups all over the world, and we get nothing of value from any of it, when later, they turn against us. But they don't mind, since they're all heavily invested in the huge military complex.

Iraq's government is corrupt. They have stolen billions that were supposed to be used for the police force, and financed the very insurgents who kill our troops. Too bad the Republicans continually vote against ending this illegal occupation of a foreign country, which was no immediate threat. Anyone dumb enough to buy into this BS that this is a war on terror, is too stupid for words. bin Laden is plotting his next attack on our shores. When it happens, you can thank George Bush, and the idiots who have supported the biggest liar to ever crash into the White House.

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in MD
02-07-2008, 08:42 AM
it's bad enough the radical right can't or won't read, but they can't add either. Democrats can't do a thing about Bush, or this illegal occupation, without two thirds vote, in both houses. They do not have the numbers. the right, continues to throw out their mythology about the DNC. The vast right wing press, is to blame for such false "News Speak" tactics. People like No Where Man, and other Bush supporters, who now try to deny that they are partly responsible for all he has done to destroy this country, having voted for him twice, even after it bacame eivident that he was lying about everything, are responsible for the fact that our money is now being sent to the same insurgents who slaughtered our troops for four years. We are Arming them, just as Republicans always do, arm radical elements, prop up corrupt dictators, and then let the troops get slaughtered later when they turn against Ameica.

It's disgusting. Ronald Reagan's foreign policy has been expanded to even greater detriment, by the neocons.

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in MD
02-07-2008, 08:49 AM
Neither party is perfect. I agree completely with you on that much. If these last seven years haven't proven which party is the most corrupt, biggest spenders, biggest liars, and most damaging to this country in their failed foreign policies, then some people have their eyes closed.

It's too bad that the radical right wing, and their vast right wing press, continue to use such smoke screens as family values, to mask their true hidden agendas, and manipulate their sheep. It's a joke. I'm still waiting for someone to point out the left wing cable and network press.

Gayle in Md.

LWW
02-07-2008, 09:06 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> I can assure you none of the righties on here watch C -Span.

Gayle in Md. <hr /></blockquote>
I can assure you that you are wrong ... but you knew that.

I can also assure you that you take apart c-span like you do everything else and obliterate everything which doesn't follow the agenda.

There is no other way to come to the warped conclusions you do.

LWW

LWW
02-07-2008, 09:11 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> Bush doesn't even include the costs of this illegal occupation of Iraq, in his annual budgets, it is hidden in emergency supplements. The true costs are undeterminable, and not until he is out of office will we get the real numbers.

Gayle in Md. <hr /></blockquote>
You FINALLY get it.

Yes Bush has ran much of this in "off budget" EO's.

Guess who developed that into an artform?

Billy Jeff.

Were you screaming bloody murder when the books were cooked to claim a balanced budget even though the national debt kept rising?

Of course not. You are a partisan with no interest in a fair discussion of issues ... you desire giving a pass to "your side" and crucifying "their side" for partisan political gain.

Yopu are no different than the neocons you rail against Gayle,

The 2 party system has divided the nation and allowed the 2 partys to rape, pillage, and burn America.

I care and want to stop it.

You don't.

You prefer to be fed a lie and then repeat it even though you know it to be a lie.

If the nation crumbles it will be because of partisan tools such as yourself who continually overlook what is really going on.

LWW

cheesemouse
02-07-2008, 10:50 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote LWW:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> Bush doesn't even include the costs of this illegal occupation of Iraq, in his annual budgets, it is hidden in emergency supplements. The true costs are undeterminable, and not until he is out of office will we get the real numbers.

Gayle in Md. <hr /></blockquote>
You FINALLY get it.

Yes Bush has ran much of this in "off budget" EO's.

Guess who developed that into an artform?

Billy Jeff.

Were you screaming bloody murder when the books were cooked to claim a balanced budget even though the national debt kept rising?

Of course not. You are a partisan with no interest in a fair discussion of issues ... you desire giving a pass to "your side" and crucifying "their side" for partisan political gain.

Yopu are no different than the neocons you rail against Gayle,

The 2 party system has divided the nation and allowed the 2 partys to rape, pillage, and burn America.

I care and want to stop it.

You don't.

You prefer to be fed a lie and then repeat it even though you know it to be a lie.

If the nation crumbles it will be because of partisan tools such as yourself who continually overlook what is really going on.<font color="red">What is really going on LWW? I think you owe it to these folks to plant your flag. Do you actually stand for anything or are you just a devils advocate, a contra eon who never really takes a stand. Is there anyone you follow?</font color>

LWW <hr /></blockquote>

LWW
02-07-2008, 12:28 PM
I am not a fan of either party, no, as they have corrupted our great nation beyond recognition.

If I were to most closely align myself witgh a party it would be Libertarian.

What I refuse to do is enter into the D = good, R = bad or R = good, D = bad which thwe 2 party system uses to great advantage.

Those who can get beyond that mindset usually soon learn that they have been willing tools of the 2 party system and that the system has morphed into what is in reality a 2 headed single party state.

Right now we have the party of speedboat socialism and the party of slowboat socialism ... but both are moving us towards a bigger state and less personal liberty.

LWW

cheesemouse
02-07-2008, 01:58 PM
LWW,
Thank you for your response. I don't like the two party system either but it is all we have for now. I am all over the map in my beliefs hence I have always registered independent. I even voted for Ross P. Having never been offered anything but the choice between two possible winners I hold my nose and pull the lever. I don't know what else I can do if I wish to take part at all.

I have a buddy in Montana with a half and acre in the mountains for sale if your interested. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

bamadog
02-07-2008, 02:59 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr>

<font color="red">McCain is right about one thing, he doesn't know **** about economics. One can't discuss our deficits, without addressing this war, and tax cuts, paid for by borrowing money from foreing countries. And they want to make them permenent? What a joke! Permanent borrowing from other countries?



Gayle in Md. </font color> <hr /></blockquote>

You know Gayle, you are free to pay more taxes. Just write the check to the IRS. What's stopping you? Is it that you want somebody else to pay?

LWW
02-07-2008, 04:27 PM
We do have other choices.

Get involved.

Speak your mind.

The third party movement is more alive than most would want you to believe.

What they have lacked was the one right set of circumstances for a long time.

Never forget that the REPUBLICAN PARTY (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29) was founded in 1854 and elected a president in 1860. That was without the ability of anything approaching the internet for grassroots organizing.

LWW

LWW
02-19-2012, 09:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ceebee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Our illustrious [censored] leader has led our 2nd &amp; 3rd level [censored] leaders down another path, to a $407 Billion Federal Budget Deficit.

Those folks just don't get it, reality has disappeared from their horizon. At what point does our country cave in from the debt?

You can bet your Bippee, our thieving leadership will be long gone with their ill-gotten gain.

But... where do they go to...? </div></div>

What's it down to now?