View Full Version : Senator Chris Dodd, Constitutional Champion

06-26-2008, 04:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Chris Dodd went to the Senate floor last night to speak against the FISA bill and delivered one of the most compelling and inspired speeches by a prominent politician that Iíve heard in quite some time. He tied the core corruption of the FISA billís telecom amnesty and warrantless eavesdropping provisions into the whole litany of the Bush administrationís lawless and destructive behavior over the last seven years ó from torture and rendition to the abuse of secrecy instruments and Guantanamo mock trials ó with a focus on the way in which telecom amnesty further demolishes the rule of law among our political class.</div></div>

link (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/25/senator-chris-dodd-constitutional-champion/)

Where are the Dems?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">(4) Beyond the FISA bill's evisceration of the rule of law, the Fourth Amendment and surveillance safeguards, what has always been so striking with this controversy has been how transparently sleazy and corrupt it reveals the Congress to be. Right out in the open, telecoms have just led Congressional supporters of telecom immunity around like little puppets. It's just amazing -- though extremely common -- that while negotiations over the bill occurred in total secrecy, with civil liberties groups and the public at large being completely excluded, Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer "negotiated" directly with the telecoms over how the telecoms' amnesty bill should be written.

Telecoms broke our surveillance laws, and then our Democratic Congressional leaders ran to them to take instructions on how to write the special law to protect them, and they didn't even really bother to hide that. Politico reported last month that "telecom companies have presented congressional Democrats with a set of proposals on how to provide immunity." And the Pelosi-glorifying article in Time this week revealed that it was the telecoms themselves -- as key participants in the secret negotiations -- which fed Pelosi the bill's current amnesty provisions:

In negotiations with Pelosi's office, the telecoms offered a compromise: Let a judge decide if the letters they received from the Administration asking for their help show that the government was really after terrorist suspects and not innocent Americans.

If you break the law, you're going to be hauled into court and prosecuted. But if telecoms break the law, Nancy Pelosi, Jay Rockefeller, and Steny Hoyer will go to them and "negotiate" over what's acceptable to the lawbreaking telecoms in terms of how they'll receive amnesty. </div></div> link (http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/06/25/dodd/index.html)


Gayle in MD
06-26-2008, 06:36 AM
I am completely disgusted with the Dems. I cannot understand why they are refusing to impeach, and why they have failed to do anything substantive about this illegal administration.

I think they're afraid of the political accusations they would face if we were attacked, and the Republicans could patch together some lame version of how the dems were responsible after having limited the survailance.

I understand quite a few Democratics voted nay. Not enough, unfortunately.



06-26-2008, 10:40 AM
So Q, are you agreeing that Gayle is the only sucker out there that believed Pelosi's lie about "doing the right thing". /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Pretty soon we are going to hear Gayle chanting for Obama and change. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif


06-26-2008, 06:22 PM
check out http://www.maplight.org and you can see the money trail. The original version of the bill never made it through congress. However, with a little financial assistance from the tel-coms directed at several key Democratic members of congress, somehow, they felt compelled to change their votes and pass this one. The tel-coms bought the Dems in congress on this one. The money trail doesn't lie.

06-27-2008, 07:58 PM
Wow, this thread sure got quiet after THAT link!


06-28-2008, 04:31 AM
Senator Chris Dodd, says a terrorist recruiter would be a "great leader" at "any time in US history." (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37961)