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Qtec
06-26-2008, 04:31 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Justice Department officials over the last six years illegally used “political or ideological” factors to hire new lawyers into an elite recruitment program, tapping law school graduates with conservative credentials over those with liberal-sounding resumes, a new report found Tuesday.

The blistering report, prepared by the Justice Department’s inspector general, is the first in what will be a series of investigations growing out of last year’s scandal over the firings of nine United States attorneys. It appeared to confirm for the first time in an official examination many of the allegations from critics who charged that the Justice Department had become overly politicized during the Bush administration.

“Many qualified candidates” were rejected for the department’s honors program because of what was perceived as a liberal bias, the report found. Those practices, the report concluded, “constituted misconduct and also violated the department’s policies and civil service law that prohibit discrimination in hiring based on political or ideological affiliations. </div></div> link (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/washington/24cnd-justice.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin)


Hire Rep yes men to the DoJ and then get them to prosecute Democrats..............mmmmmmmmmmm.

Q........GW...protector of the USCON?

Gayle in MD
06-26-2008, 06:23 AM
Everything the right has denied over these last seven years, has now been proven.

What they did was actually illegal. Their behavior in this matter confirms accusations by amny authors, including Scott McClellan, who wrote about how they have operated the entire government, all branches, and decisions, as though they were involved in a perpetual political campaign.

Bad news is that Democratics don't seen willing enough to prosecute them. The precedent they are setting by not throwing the book at this bunch of crooks is very dangerous to our future as a democratic republic.

Gayle in Md.

eg8r
06-26-2008, 10:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Justice Department officials over the last six years illegally used “political or ideological” factors to hire new lawyers into an elite recruitment program, tapping law school graduates with conservative credentials over those with liberal-sounding resumes, a new report found Tuesday.</div></div>Q you get all warm inside when you read these stories but once again you need something clarified. You jumped on the word "illegal" but you failed to recognize the other important word "report". Now, just so you know, in the US, a "report" is NOT a conviction.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Q........GW...protector of the USCON? </div></div>You like to question the constitutionality of W yet you always ignore the presumption of innocence.

eg8r

Bobbyrx
06-26-2008, 01:46 PM
[quote eg8r)You like to question the constitutionality of W yet you always ignore the presumption of innocence.

<span style="color: #FF0000">The presumtion of innocence only applys to prisoners at Guantanamo..... </span>

sack316
06-26-2008, 03:14 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bobbyrx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote eg8r)You like to question the constitutionality of W yet you always ignore the presumption of innocence.

<span style="color: #FF0000">The presumtion of innocence only applys to prisoners at Guantanamo..... </span> </div></div>

Working out well so far. Only 10% of those released have already either been killed or captured again out there trying to kill us.

Sack

Qtec
06-27-2008, 03:10 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bobbyrx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote eg8r)You like to question the constitutionality of W yet you always ignore the presumption of innocence.

<span style="color: #FF0000">The presumtion of innocence only applys to prisoners at Guantanamo..... </span> </div></div>

Working out well so far. Only 10% of those released have already either been killed or captured again out there trying to kill us.

Sack </div></div>

Not true. Its just GOP propaganda. myth (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/21/gitmo-report-scalia/)
Q

Qtec
06-27-2008, 03:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Justice Department officials over the last six years illegally used “political or ideological” factors to hire new lawyers into an elite recruitment program, tapping law school graduates with conservative credentials over those with liberal-sounding resumes, a new report found Tuesday.</div></div>Q you get all warm inside when you read these stories but once again you need something clarified. You jumped on the word "illegal" but you failed to recognize the other important word "report". Now, just so you know, in the US, a "report" is NOT a conviction.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Q........GW...protector of the USCON? </div></div>You like to question the constitutionality of W yet you always ignore the presumption of innocence.

eg8r </div></div>

I didn't jump on anything. The word 'illegal' does not even appear in my post.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">presumption of innocence </div></div>
Nobody has been a accused yet.

Q

sack316
06-27-2008, 05:34 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bobbyrx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote eg8r)You like to question the constitutionality of W yet you always ignore the presumption of innocence.

<span style="color: #FF0000">The presumtion of innocence only applys to prisoners at Guantanamo..... </span> </div></div>

Working out well so far. Only 10% of those released have already either been killed or captured again out there trying to kill us.

Sack </div></div>

Not true. Its just GOP propaganda. myth (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/21/gitmo-report-scalia/)
Q </div></div>

Abdallah Salih al-Ajmi is a mythical figure?

From your posted article "the Department of Defense does not have a system for tracking the conduct or even the whereabouts of released detainees."

Probably quite true... except for I'm sure we can ID those who are recaptured or killed.

I'll grant you that yes, this is easily used as propoganda by the GOP... probably way overblown... but no more overblown than your posted article is understated.

Sack

Gayle in MD
06-27-2008, 08:05 AM
The subject is the political destruction of the entire Department of Justice. The Department of Justice has always been the gold standard of maintaining the law without destroying our legal system.

The statistics give us the proof, and tell the story. The percentages of applicants who were considered liberal, either by their membership to environmental protection groups, or Democratic affiliations, people who came from Ivy League Universities, harvard and yale, for example, yet were not hired was like 88%, compared to only about 8 or 9% of the loyal Bushies.

Even Monika Goodling admitted that she "Crossed the line" translation, broke the law.

When we start to see the law suits filed by those who were rejected for political reasons, and it is absolutely illegal to do so, except when a new president makes a clean sweep, and replaces all AG's, we will begin to see legal repercussions. This was an internal investigation by the DOJ, itself, stating that the law was broken. It's only been a short time since the study was complete, but it surely supports the accusation that Bush and company used the DOJ for their own political purposes, paramount in those, to thwart any legal action against Republicans, and/or environmental concerns and illegalities, and attempt to use the DOJ for political actions against Democratics.

As for guilty until proven so in a court of law, 99% of the trash thrown at the Clinton's, from the right, on-going, have never produced convictions of any kind, but that doesn't enter the right wingnut's arguments and slander. The only thing the right ever came up with was some DNA on a dress, and some accusations from several women about adultery, not a criminal offense. People lie everyday when they testify in civil law suits.

This involves using the DOJ, and other government agencies, as personal political tools for wrong doing. That is the ultmate in wrong doing, and particularly so when our gold standard, the law of the land, is damaged.

Gayle in Md.