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mike60
07-14-2008, 12:35 AM
Want to see the President? Bribery works well.

A lobbyist with close ties to the White House is offering access to key figures in George W Bush’s administration in return for six-figure donations to the private library being set up to commemorate Bush’s presidency.
Stephen Payne, who claims to have raised more than $1m for the president’s Republican party in recent years, said he would arrange meetings with Dick Cheney, the vice-president, Condoleezza Rice, the secretary of state, and other senior officials in return for a payment of $250,000 (£126,000) towards the library in Texas.
Payne, who has accompanied Bush and Cheney on several foreign trips, also said he would try to secure a meeting with the president himself.
The revelation confirms long-held suspicions that favours are being offered in return for donations to the libraries which outgoing presidents set up to house their archives and safeguard their political legacies.
Unlike campaign donations, there is no requirement to disclose the donors to the libraries, no limit on the amount that can be pledged and no restrictions on foreigners contributing.
During an undercover investigation by The Sunday Times, Payne was asked to arrange meetings in Washington for an exiled former central Asian president. He outlined the cost of facilitating such access.
“The exact budget I will come up with, but it will be somewhere between $600,000 and $750,000, with about a third of it going directly to the Bush library,” said Payne, who sits on the US homeland security advisory council.
He said initially that the “family” of the Asian politician should make the donation. He later added that if all the money was paid to him he would make the payment to the Bush library. Publicly, it would appear to have been made in the politician’s name “unless he wants to be anonymous for some reason”.
Payne said the balance of the $750,000 would go to his own lobbying company, Worldwide Strategic Partners (WSP).
Asked by an undercover reporter who the politician would be able to meet for that price, Payne said: “Cheney’s possible, definitely the national security adviser [Stephen Hadley], definitely either Dr Rice or . . . I think a meeting with Dr Rice or the deputy secretary [John Negroponte] is possible . . .

mike666 james kopp murdering scum doing forever as some guy's bitch

LWW
07-14-2008, 02:10 AM
This type of behavior has gone on for years and is wrong.

It is a serious loophole in our laws.

The left, however, once again betrays itself by slavishly defending Billy Jeff Clinton building up a $200,000,000.00 war chest under the same program as being fine and dandy while slavering like mad dogs at the first opportunity to howl <span style='font-size: 17pt'>B-B-B-BUT B-B-B-BOOOOSH!</span> over it.

So long as we allow the 2 party system to divide us and give 1 side a pass and only condemn "the other side" this will continue unabated and probably get worse.

Politics is the nation's business and not a football game to cheer for one group of thugs to beat another group of thugs.

LWW

Gayle in MD
07-14-2008, 08:00 AM
Let's hope the International War Crimes Tribunal can convict him of all his crimes against humanity before he can break ground on his library of denial.

I think we could raise quite a lot of money for a Publically financed Reality "Bush" Library in order to preserve historyfor the next generation. I think they have a right to know who destroyed their futures.

Gayle in Md.

LWW
07-14-2008, 08:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let's hope the International War Crimes Tribunal can convict him of all his crimes against humanity before he can break ground on his library of denial.

I think we could raise quite a lot of money for a Publically financed Reality "Bush" Library in order to preserve historyfor the next generation. I think they have a right to know who destroyed their futures.

Gayle in Md. </div></div>
Yes they do, but as long as partisans such as yourself insist on toting water for "MY SIDE" they will never get to know until it's too late.

LWW

Chopstick
07-14-2008, 10:51 AM
So, it's 250K for the president. How much could I get a governor or a senator for?

PS. I'm serious.

Chopstick
07-14-2008, 10:53 AM
Also, do they accept Pay Pal?

Gayle in MD
07-14-2008, 11:01 AM
Check out the Republican trashcans in the Senate Office Building. They write their bribe agreements on the back of their Senate business cards. Remember Cunningham?

Gayle in Md.

pooltchr
07-14-2008, 06:45 PM
So how much do I have to pay to get to spend a night in the Lincoln bedroom?????

Steve

mike60
07-14-2008, 07:55 PM
It was free if you brought the right champagne.

mike60

Deeman3
07-15-2008, 07:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chopstick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, it's 250K for the president. How much could I get a governor or a senator for?

PS. I'm serious. </div></div>

<span style="color: #FF0000">NOt sure, Chopstick, but I think I know where you can get a Senator who just missed out on the presidential nomination for around $22,000,000. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </span>

mike60
07-15-2008, 05:43 PM
Deeman, They give you a discount for paying with Euros.


mike60

mike60
07-15-2008, 11:19 PM
Prez, Consultant Go Back 20 Years
By Andrew Tilghman - July 14, 2008, 7:14PM
Of course Bush knows nothing ala Sgt. Schultz...

It looks like George W. Bush has known Stephen Payne pretty well for a long time.
The White House today tried to distance Bush from a former lobbyist who was caught on tape by the Times of London offering to arrange meetings with high-level U.S. officials in exchange for large payments to the future Bush presidential library fund.
But the president and the Houston-based consultant have known each other for at least 20 years.
Payne was George W. Bush's personal travel aide during the senior Bush's 1988 presidential campaign, according to an out-dated version of Payne's firm's Web site.
More recently, he's been running a firm called Worldwide Strategic Partners (pdf), which bills itself as an "International Relations and Energy Development" consulting firm.
A photo of Payne with Afghan President Hamid Karzai is featured in one of his firm's powerpoint slides.
Payne has helped Bush and Cheney when they visit the Middle East. He joined the president at the Red Sea Summit in Jordan in June 2003, serving as a "Senior Presidential Advance Representative," according to his firm's own description.
With the vice president, Payne has traveled to the Middle East in 2002 and 2005, to Korea in 2004, Kazakhstan in 2006, and Afghanistan for the inauguration of Afghan President Karzai.
Payne's firm says he's been a "governmental affairs consultant" representing Afghanistan, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Morgan Stanley, SAP Software, & Continental Airlines. He's also worked for Yukos Oil, Boeing and Lockheed Martin.
Payne registered a few lobbying contracts back in 2001 and 2002 for companies including SAP America and United Space Alliance.
Payne also appears to have deep ties with the Texas GOP fundraising machine.
In 2000, Payne was listed among Bush's "Pioneers," the list of campaign bundlers who helped raise more than $100,000 for the president's first bid for the White House.
As the 2004 campaign geared up, Payne was among some 350 bundlers invited to Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas for a barbecue, billed as a "donor maintenance event," according to the Houston Chronicle at the time.
In the 1990s, Payne served as a fundraiser and staffer for Sen. Kay Baily Hutchison (R-TX). He served as "vice chair" of her two most recent campaigns.
Recently, he was appointed by Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff to serve on the Homeland Security Advisory Council, where he sits on the Secure Borders and Open Doors Advisory Committee.

mike60

Deeman3
07-16-2008, 07:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So how much do I have to pay to get to spend a night in the Lincoln bedroom?????

Steve </div></div>

<span style="color: #FF0000"> Are you counting the Charlie Rangel "building named after me" discount?</span>

DickLeonard
07-16-2008, 08:18 AM
Deeman, Charlie is just trying to get his 400 acres and a mule it just so happens its in NYC.####

Deeman3
07-16-2008, 08:37 AM
Dick,

Now I know what "rent control" in NYC really means! If I were to name a building in my company after him, do you think Charlie would send me some of those subsidies? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Now for the really serious question, Dick, when you traded Manhattan Island for all those beads, did you ever think McCain would seem like a youngster to you? Just kidding. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Of course, down here it was just 40 acres and a mule but you had to marry the mule!

mike60
07-16-2008, 02:29 PM
Deeman, That's funny.

mike60

Gayle in MD
07-16-2008, 05:38 PM
Don't worry about it. It didn't cost the tax payers three trillion dollars, and it didn't kill over four thousand American troops, for nothing, and it didn't contribute to driving the country into economic disaster, either.

So how do you like paying insurgents not to kill our troops in Iraq? Welfare is fine with you, as long as it isn't going to Americans?

Boy, are you Republicans ever paying for that measly tax cut!

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in MD
07-16-2008, 05:39 PM
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mike60
07-16-2008, 08:12 PM
Stephan Payne fired from his Homeland Security job. It seems he might be breaking the law and having IRS problems soon.

mike60

Gayle in MD
07-17-2008, 06:41 AM
Seems like the Republican Party numbers are only going up in the jailhouses. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif