View Full Version : Derby City - Now in Indiana, Will it change?

08-11-2008, 09:24 AM
I guess it is sure to change, but will it be better or worse in your opinions? I know the food will have to be better. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

The old site was so perfect a venue for what we did, the tournaments, gambling and being right there so, if called for a match, you almost always knew about it.

My concerns:

With the large fields and unpredictable nature of the re-draws, will there be a possibility of knowing when your match will be played? At the old tournament, it was pretty easy to just hang out or run to your room with a friend watching for your match.

If this is in a casino, will the casino authority allow open gambling there? Will State or Gaming regulations ruin that part of the event?

I know this has been discussed on other forums a bit but missed it if already talked about here.

Have an regulars decided to go or not go because of the change?

Scott Lee
08-11-2008, 04:24 PM
Dee...I don't anything will change, even though the DCC will be at the casino. I'm sure still going!

Scott Lee

08-11-2008, 04:44 PM
I am sure to be there! I am wondering about the open gambling though. I never did gamble much in Louisville, but I really enjoyed watching the action matches. I think the action matches are very differrent than a match between pros on television.

08-12-2008, 07:37 AM
Yeah, I've threatened not to go but will have to to see how it is and to keep Ace from getting shot outright!

08-12-2008, 08:01 AM
I think they are supposed to be adding some where around 10 more tables than what they had previously.

08-12-2008, 08:42 AM
The extra tables will be great as long as the action is still allowed. If so, I'm sure it will be great as usual.

08-12-2008, 08:58 AM
I can't say what the situation is at that particular casino, but most of these faux-riverboat casinos have the pretend boat somewhere near the river (perhaps even in it), and have a physically separate hotel.

Because of this separation, the casino surveillance and security are unlikely to be an issue in the hotel/convention center.

In some states, wagers between consenting parties are perfectly legal, but operation of betting pools where a percentage is raked, is almost always illegal.

My guess is that they will let it pass unless they feel the attendees aren't forking over their fair share on the boat. Then there will be trouble in River City.

08-12-2008, 01:43 PM
I don't know the current laws on gaming in Indiana, but I can tell you this. If gaming is illegal where the house does not get a cut (and that seems quite likely), the gaming authority or whatever the governmental authority is in Indiana could witness the illegal activity while being undercover and bust those involved and hold the house accountable. Thus, if illegal, the house would have an interest in preventing these activities most likely with video surveillance and security.

That said, I seriously doubt many would stop gambling even if they knew it was illegal. Sorry, I didn't bother looking up Indiana law for you. I used to live there and it was illegal at that time, and I did witness an undercover agent bust some guys gambling and the bar was fined. If ever there was a "prime time" for authorities to monitor illegal gaming, I should think this would be one of them.

08-13-2008, 12:36 PM

That should comfort Bucktooth.... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

08-17-2008, 12:13 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah, I've threatened not to go but will have to to see how it is and to keep Ace from getting shot outright! </div></div>

What makes you think I would get shot?

08-17-2008, 02:00 PM
I asked the question about private gambling to management on another forum and got no reply.

I can't imagine that a Casino could knowling permit large scale gambling on its property..even if it wasn't getting a cut.

But I also can't imagine that Diamond wouldn't have gotten and airtight ruling on that matter from Indiana officials.

Try running a "friendly" poker game or sports book in the lobby of a Vegas hotel and see what happens to you.

As for security cams, you can bet your Balabushka that they have extensive camera networks in their hotel/ballroom not just the "boat."

Funny story re: gambling boats.

I arrived in Tunica for my first visit at night. The next morning I went to the casino and there was no water to be seen anywhere around.

I asked an employee of this was an indian reservation. She laughed and said "No, it's a river boat."...to which I responded..."Where the hell is the RIVER/?"

Well, they dug a huge pit...only a few feet deep and big enough for the footprint of the casino...then dug a TRENCH to the Mississippi river which was over 500 feet away behind a row of trees lining the river.

The trench filled up the pit upon which a barge was floated with ONE FOOT clearance to the bottom (Mississippi law) But the barge is heavily anchorded, while it is "floating" it isn't "floating" at all!


08-18-2008, 07:57 AM
Yes, I was there when they "floated" the casino in Tunica. I guess the law has changed there now as they have about 8 casinos and they don't even pretend to be boats. The original even had the nameplate from the original boat hanging in the entrance.

Casinos have historically, at least to me, been the worse places to hold tournaments as you just can't seem to get away from the banging noise of the slot machines.

I am hopeing they define the gambling rules better before the tournament. The old place was just perfect for the action portion.