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Gayle in MD
08-26-2008, 01:21 PM
Is it true? I didn't see Jay Leno last night, but I heard that when Jay said to John McCain "A million if you can tell me how many houses you own."

McCain answered...."Well, I was in a Prisoner Of War Camp for five years....and I did't have a table or a chair, or....etc."

Did anyone see this?

OK, I didn't see the show, but I don't get it? How many times does he pull out his POW card, before people start to get turned off on his whole campaign. He's starting to remind me of Guiliani, a noun, and a verb, and 9/11, as Joe Biden said!

Can someone tell me what that has to do with why he doesn't know how many houses he owns?


Here's a link to Maureen Dowd's take on the matter...and a partial quote....


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/opinion/24dowd.html


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So it’s hard to believe that John McCain is now in danger of exceeding his credit limit on the equivalent of an American Express black card. His campaign is cheapening his greatest strength — and making a mockery of his already dubious claim that he’s reticent to talk about his P.O.W. experience — by flashing the P.O.W. card to rebut any criticism, no matter how unrelated. The captivity is already amply displayed in posters and TV advertisements.

The Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, the pastor who married Jenna Bush and who is part of a new Christian-based political action committee supporting Obama, recently criticized the joke McCain made at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally encouraging Cindy to enter the topless Miss Buffalo Chip contest. The McCain spokesman Brian Rogers brought out the bottomless excuse, responding with asperity that McCain’s character had been “tested and forged in ways few can fathom.”

When the Obama crowd was miffed to learn that McCain was in a motorcade rather than in a “cone of silence” while Obama was being questioned by Rick Warren, Nicolle Wallace of the McCain camp retorted, “The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous.”

When Obama chaffed McCain for forgetting how many houses he owns, Rogers huffed, “This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years — in prison.”

As Sam Stein notes in The Huffington Post: “The senator has even brought his military record into discussion of his music tastes. Explaining that his favorite song was ‘Dancing Queen’ by Abba, he offered that his knowledge of music ‘stopped evolving when his plane intercepted a surface-to-air missile.’ ‘Dancing Queen,’ however, was produced in 1975, eight years after McCain’s plane was shot down.”

The Kerry Swift-boat attacks in 2004 struck down the off-limits signs that were traditionally on a candidate’s military service. Many Democrats are willing to repay the favor, and Republicans clearly no longer see war medals as sacrosanct.

In a radio interview last week, Representative Terry Everett, an Alabama Republican, let loose with a barrage at the Democrat John Murtha, a decorated Vietnam War veteran who is the head of the House defense appropriations subcommittee, calling him “cut-and-run John Murtha” and an “idiot.”

“And don’t talk to me about him being an ex-marine,” Everett said. “Lord, that was 40 years ago. A lot of stuff can happen in 40 years.”

The real danger to the McCain crew in overusing the P.O.W. line so much that it’s a punch line is that it will give Obama an opening for critical questions:

While McCain’s experience was heroic, did it create a worldview incapable of anticipating the limits to U.S. military power in Iraq? Did he fail to absorb the lessons of Vietnam, so that he is doomed to always want to refight it? Did his captivity inform a search-and-destroy, shoot-first-ask-questions-later, “We are all Georgians,” mentality?

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sack316
08-26-2008, 11:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q37O08IJstQ

Now you can watch it. I don't think it is quite as it will be (or has been) spun. I may give my take on it another time, but for now I'll just see what y'all say. Vid is only about 1:39 long.

Sack

editing to note the "etc." from Gayles post contains quite a bit.

eg8r
08-27-2008, 07:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK, I didn't see the show, but I don't get it? How many times does he pull out his POW card, before people start to get turned off on his whole campaign.</div></div>I agree with you. People were sick of hearing Kerry talk about his "service" and eventually a group of them decided to do something about it. That group, on their own, ended the chances for Kerry.

eg8r