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nAz
09-08-2008, 10:45 AM
Wow! I new we had a lot of them but not that many... wonder if that really causes resentment among the people in those countries?

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The US Has 761 Military Bases Across the Planet, and We Simply Never Talk About It

By Tom Engelhardt, Tomdispatch.com. Posted September 8, 2008.

America garrison the globe in ways that really are unprecedented, and yet, if you live in the United States, you basically wouldn't know it.


Here it is, as simply as I can put it: In the course of any year, there must be relatively few countries on this planet on which U.S. soldiers do not set foot, whether with guns blazing, humanitarian aid in hand, or just for a friendly visit. In startling numbers of countries, our soldiers not only arrive, but stay interminably, if not indefinitely. Sometimes they live on military bases built to the tune of billions of dollars that amount to sizeable American towns (with accompanying amenities), sometimes on stripped down forward operating bases that may not even have showers. When those troops don't stay, often American equipment does -- carefully stored for further use at tiny "cooperative security locations," known informally as "lily pads" (from which U.S. troops, like so many frogs, could assumedly leap quickly into a region in crisis).

At the height of the Roman Empire, the Romans had an estimated 37 major military bases scattered around their dominions. At the height of the British Empire, the British had 36 of them planetwide. Depending on just who you listen to and how you count, we have hundreds of bases. According to Pentagon records, in fact, there are 761 active military "sites" abroad.

The fact is: We garrison the planet north to south, east to west, and even on the seven seas, thanks to our various fleets and our massive aircraft carriers which, with 5,000-6,000 personnel aboard -- that is, the population of an American town -- are functionally floating bases.

And here's the other half of that simple truth: We don't care to know about it. We, the American people, aided and abetted by our politicians, the Pentagon, and the mainstream media, are knee-deep in base denial.

Now, that's the gist of it. If, like most Americans, that's more than you care to know, stop here.

Where the Sun Never Sets

Let's face it, we're on an imperial bender and it's been a long, long night. Even now, in the wee hours, the Pentagon continues its massive expansion of recent years; we spend militarily as if there were no tomorrow; we're still building bases as if the world were our oyster; and we're still in denial. Someone should phone the imperial equivalent of Alcoholics Anonymous.

But let's start in a sunnier time, less than two decades ago, when it seemed that there would be many tomorrows, all painted red, white, and blue. Remember the 1990s when the U.S. was hailed -- or perhaps more accurately, Washington hailed itself -- not just as the planet's "sole superpower" or even its unique "hyperpower," but as its "global policeman," the only cop on the block? As it happened, our leaders took that label seriously and our central police headquarters, that famed five-sided building in Washington D.C, promptly began dropping police stations -- aka military bases -- in or near the oil heartlands of the planet (Kosovo, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait) after successful wars in the former Yugoslavia and the Persian Gulf.

As those bases multiplied, it seemed that we were embarking on a new, post-Soviet version of "containment." With the USSR gone, however, what we were containing grew a lot vaguer and, before 9/11, no one spoke its name. Nonetheless, it was, in essence, Muslims who happened to live on so many of the key oil lands of the planet.

Yes, for a while we also kept intact our old bases from our triumphant mega-war against Japan and Germany, and then the stalemated "police action" in South Korea (1950-1953) -- vast structures which added up to something like an all-military American version of the old British Raj. According to the Pentagon, we still have a total of 124 bases in Japan, up to 38 on the small island of Okinawa, and 87 in South Korea. (Of course, there were setbacks. The giant bases we built in South Vietnam were lost in 1975, and we were peaceably ejected from our major bases in the Philippines in 1992.) ....

Gayle in MD
09-08-2008, 11:40 AM
I just hope we'll be peacably ejected by Maliki, from the Vatican styled Embassy Bush built in Iraq!

Where did Bush get the money for that? As much as I watch C-Span, I can't recall that Iraq Embassy money being included in a bill? Must have been more "Emergency Funding" or maybe he just borrowed it from China, to keep it off the public radar.

O well, we're going downt the tubes here, and Bush is building shopping centers and hotel complexes at the Baghdad Airport. Guess he wants a nice place for himself, Cheney and all their oil cronies when they go in for the contracts!

sack316
09-08-2008, 12:56 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> building shopping centers and hotel complexes at the Baghdad Airport. </div></div>

We're giving them democracy... may as well enjoy some of the perks and degragation we enjoy. Coming next is filming of "Bikini Jihad 2: Reign on me". /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

and Naz, good post. That's why I was saying before about why should we be surprised we are trying to build permanent bases in Iraq? we have everywhere else. And no, I don't think it's a good thing. But it's something that has always been done, and no signs of changing that anytime in my lifetime. I don't think people have any idea of the amount of men and women we have spread out through the globe.

Sack

Gayle in MD
09-08-2008, 01:04 PM
We never built them the size of the Vatican before, until Bush started running the show.

He's buiilding shopping centers and hotel complexes in Baghdad, and hestill hasn't rebuilt New Orleans!

eg8r
09-08-2008, 03:55 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow! I new we had a lot of them but not that many... wonder if that really causes resentment among the people in those countries?</div></div>The only resentment a military base causes is when a Dem is looking to win votes and thinks retreating is their best bet. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif


eg8r

eg8r
09-08-2008, 03:56 PM
That sucks. I don't think we need to build a base in Iraq, and I think it would be equally stupid to pay to rebuild New Orleans.

eg8r