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pooltchr
10-05-2009, 07:22 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl942



Mon Oct 5, 3:46 pm ET
This weekend "Saturday Night Live" opened with Fred Armisen as President Obama, delivering an address from the Oval Office. Noting up front that he'd failed to secure the 2016 Olympic Games for Chicago, Armisen's Obama said it was just further proof that his detractors' fears are unfounded: How could he transform the country into something resembling the former Soviet Union or Nazi Germany when he's failed to accomplish anything at all? "When you look at my record," he said, "it's very clear what I've done so far, and that is nothing."




But are SNL's accusations of Obama being a do-nothing president accurate? Let's run down the list of the nine promises SNL lampooned President Obama for doing "nothing" on to see where he actually stands.

1. Close the American military prison at Guantanamo Bay: In one of his first acts as president, Obama signed an order mandating the close of the notorious lockup by January 2010. On Sunday, White House National Security Adviser James Jones said that he was "hopeful" that the White House would meet that deadline. Several legal and logistical questions remained to be answered, however, including the fate of the remaining detainees.

2. Pull all troops out of Iraq: In February, Obama told congressional leaders that he wanted all troops out of Iraq by August 2010. On June 30th of this year, a large number of troops were pulled out of the country, a move that was understated here in the U.S., but was met by dancing in the streets in some parts of Iraq. At the time of the withdrawal, the American military leadership refused to put a number on how many troops remained, though some have estimated that number remains as high as 124,000.

3. Improve the situation in Afghanistan: In a recent interview with CBS' "60 Minutes," General Stanley McChrystal, America's top commander in Afghanistan, said that things had become "a little worse" than he had originally anticipated in Afghanistan, adding that "the breadth of the violence, the geographic spread of violence, is a little more than I would have gathered." Wednesday marks the eighth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion, and last Sunday saw the deadliest single battle for American soldiers in Afghanistan since 2001. The administration is currently divided over how to change course in Afghanistan, weighing McChrystal's request for 40,000 more troops against other options.

4. Reform the nation's health care system: This year's health care reform debate has been one of the more contentious debates in American history. Originally, the president set an August deadline for Congress to pass legislation for him to sign. That obviously didn't happen. However, on Friday night the Senate Finance Committee finally released its mammoth health care bill, setting the stage for an even more intense national debate with a floor vote potentially coming as early as the middle of this week.

5. Cut down on global warming: Prior to the onset of the raucous health care reform debate, the centerpiece of the Administration's efforts to stem the increase of global warming, the Cap and Trade bill, was on the legislative fast-track. However, over the weekend Carol Browner, Obama's global warming czar, said that passage of the bill prior to December's Copenhagen Climate Change Conference was unlikely.

6. Reform the nation's immigration policies: In August, President Obama, under intense pressure from supporters for not moving fast enough on the issue, announced that he would have an immigration bill in Congress by the end of the year, though it likely wouldn't be voted on until 2010. Saying that "demagogues" who "suggest that any form of pathway for legalization for those who are already in the United States is unacceptable" would attempt to obstruct his efforts, the president added, "Am I going to be able to snap my fingers and get this done? No."

7. Changing the military's policies on gay soldiers: In his first week in the Oval Office, President Obama announced that his Administration would have to study the "implications for national security" before he could attempt to repeal the present "don't ask, don't tell" policy initiated by the Clinton administration in 1993. On Sunday, White House National Security Adviser James Jones reiterated Obama's commitment to fulfilling this campaign promise, but added that the president has "a lot on his plate" and would get around to addressing the issue at the "right time."

8. Placing limits on executive powers: In the early days of his presidency, Congressional Quarterly praised Obama for appearing as if he was "rejecting some of Bush's most expansive executive power claims" in the White House. However, that sentiment quickly evaporated among Obama supporters and opponents, with Salon's Glenn Greenwald noting in April that the White House had "explicitly claimed to possess the very presidential powers that Bush critics spent years condemning as radical, lawless and authoritarian."

9. Prosecute those who facilitate torture: In April, President Obama announced that his Administration would not bring charges against those who carried out acts deemed as torture upon U.S. terror detainees, but rather might seek to prosecute the Bush Administration officials who drafted the documents justifying the use of torture as lawful. In August, Attorney General Eric Holder followed through by announcing the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate whether or not the interrogations of suspected terrorists broke any laws.


Steve

Sev
10-05-2009, 07:33 PM
Quite the impressive track record.

The denials will arrive shortly.

wolfdancer
10-06-2009, 01:38 AM
Sweet Jesus...I can't take it anymore..Steve and you giving expert commentary on President Obama's record,....like you are both expert's now on current affairs. Nobody's going to deny whatever the **** Steve wrote....it's his pipe dream and if you bought into it bully for you. That now really makes up my mind,,,I was just thinking of sending this to our new resident expert.....
OK Stevo, you win....
It was bad enough last year reading lww's boastings, but now with you taking up the torch and telling us how much smarter you are then any Democrat because you vote the big Bubba ticket, it is like Dee said... 2008 repeating; it's deja vu all over again. (or was that Yogi what said that?)
If I read one more of that bragging style post, where you are suddenly an expert on everything, I'll be the one, that goes down and shoots up the mall, not some whacked out wingnut like Kopps friend here.
You and lww can have this board...not sure if there is enough bandwidth for both of you though....
I'm done , at least for the time being......
*&^%$^&#@ one more &^*%$^*# post by you or the *** and I'll do the honorable thing....I'll hari kari some Republican...
I'll have to change the wording a bit and add your name to the triumvirate .....you can be Shemp to their Larry and Mo personas
Uh.....don't call me....I'll call you. Good luck bringing the rest of the board up to yours and his speed......
Mother of Christ, save me from these ****** and Father forgive them for they know not what they do......and are too dumb to know that they know not......
But I have to agree with with President Obama's first 10 months do not compare with your heroic GWB's....and thank you Jesus for that!!
Beam me up, Scotty....this <s>planet here</s>has no intelligent life

Sev
10-06-2009, 05:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sweet Jesus...I can't take it anymore..Steve and you giving expert commentary on President Obama's record,....like you are both expert's now on current affairs. Nobody's going to deny whatever the **** Steve wrote....it's his pipe dream and if you bought into it bully for you. That now really makes up my mind,,,I was just thinking of sending this to our new resident expert.....
OK Stevo, you win....
It was bad enough last year reading lww's boastings, but now with you taking up the torch and telling us how much smarter you are then any Democrat because you vote the big Bubba ticket, it is like Dee said... 2008 repeating; it's deja vu all over again. (or was that Yogi what said that?)
If I read one more of that bragging style post, where you are suddenly an expert on everything, I'll be the one, that goes down and shoots up the mall, not some whacked out wingnut like Kopps friend here.
You and lww can have this board...not sure if there is enough bandwidth for both of you though....
I'm done , at least for the time being......
*&^%$^&#@ one more &^*%$^*# post by you or the *** and I'll do the honorable thing....I'll hari kari some Republican...
I'll have to change the wording a bit and add your name to the triumvirate .....you can be Shemp to their Larry and Mo personas
Uh.....don't call me....I'll call you. Good luck bringing the rest of the board up to yours and his speed......
Mother of Christ, save me from these ****** and Father forgive them for they know not what they do......and are too dumb to know that they know not......
But I have to agree with with President Obama's first 10 months do not compare with your heroic GWB's....and thank you Jesus for that!!
Beam me up, Scotty....this <s>planet here</s>has no intelligent life </div></div>

Harry Mud has left the house????

pooltchr
10-06-2009, 08:45 AM
You really are an idiot, aren't you. I did not make any commentary, and if you paid attention, you would have seen that the entire post was from someone else. It offers up a factual representation of his first months in office.
I'm sorry if the truth hurts, but again, you attack the messenger.
How about dropping the A.H. personna and addressing the points of the post!

Steve

Sev
10-06-2009, 09:06 AM
I think we are all on ignore.

It much simpler to stick your head in the sand.

wolfdancer
10-06-2009, 01:04 PM
how many times do I have to remind you....that just because one of you dreams up something....a brain fart....it doesn't mean that we, the progressives here on the board have to disprove it. Besides, with yer closed minds nuthin can alter your reality.
It's an old debating trick to keep the other guy on the defensive, but it's passe now....
Make your points, run them up the flagpole, so to speak, and see if they'll get saluted. I reserve the right to disagree, and don't feel any need to do a Perry Mason to explain why.
The Sky is blue...the sky is falling...skype is a pos....disprove all of them statements
When you become the board admin, you can sit back and make up the rules....in the meantime allow someone else to post, without trying to impose your rules on them.
Unlike you and ****(lww) I ain't trying to be the board's ombudsman (I'm waiting though for Mason to appoint me as such)
Relax and stop trying to be the leading spokesman here...hi-jscking the board like lww tries to....and then you'll find people, people outside of your little bund may even respond favorably to you. I doubt it , but thought it would be gentlemanly of me to add that in.

pooltchr
10-06-2009, 01:45 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Make your points, run them up the flagpole, so to speak, and see if they'll get saluted. I reserve the right to disagree, </div></div>

But that is the point. You didn't agree or disagree with anything. You just launched into a personal attack on me.

Get a life, Bubba! You accues me of following others around the board, and then when you do it, you seem to think it's cute. You tell us you are a mature adult, and you act like a 13 year old brat.

I hope I never become as bitter as a couple of the old farts around here.

Steve