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Gayle in MD
10-14-2009, 01:24 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4551010

Kerbouchard
10-14-2009, 01:45 PM
Imagine that, a union opposes a Republican...shocking.

wolfdancer
10-14-2009, 02:16 PM
I think that this line from the commissioner, sums it up nicely:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But sport in America is at its best when it unifies, gives all of us reason to cheer, and when it transcends. Our sport does exactly that when it overcomes division and rejects discrimination and hatred." </div></div>
This union isn't exactly like Walmart workers demanding their lunch hour, rest periods, and to be paid for their O.T.....(typical socialist ideas that affect the bottom line)
......these are highly paid skilled professional athletes, who just object a total pos like him, profiting from their sport

LWW
10-14-2009, 04:55 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think that this line from the commissioner, sums it up nicely:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But sport in America is at its best when it unifies, gives all of us reason to cheer, and when it transcends. Our sport does exactly that when it overcomes division and rejects discrimination and hatred." </div></div>
This union isn't exactly like Walmart workers demanding their lunch hour, rest periods, and to be paid for their O.T.....(typical socialist ideas that affect the bottom line)
......these are highly paid skilled professional athletes, who just object a total pos like him, profiting from their sport </div></div>

Nor is it a union.

It is a player's association, or guild.

If it were a union, pay would be based on position and seniority.

If more employees would replace their union with a similar set up, both employee and employer would have increased success.

LWW

Gayle in MD
10-15-2009, 05:37 AM
The investment group dropped him, so he's out of the deal!

Good. We don't need one of our favorite sports compromised by a Sexist, Racist, divisive, hate-spewing radical, who said he was on the side of the Taliban, and wanted the President to fail.

Poetic Justice, that he made all his millions by slandering people, and now he is seeing that they too, have power that can also hurt him.

Back to my list of supporters to help pressure the Miss America Pagent to drop him.

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llotter
10-15-2009, 06:39 AM
I am a big Rush fan and I hope he sues and wins megabucks from all of those who use false information and quotes to defame him. I have noticed that that is a definite pattern of the left because the actual truth seldom supports their essential positions.

Sev
10-15-2009, 06:47 AM
More proof that our Democracy and capitalism is being destroyed.

That you cheer this on is not surprising as people such as yourself seek the death of this nation. Whether you realized this your own vindictiveness over a petty victory on further destroy capitalism will in effect impact all business deals that may include someone that is considered polarizing. People in our congress and those such as the racist's Sharpton and Jackson have no place in the discussion.

I would however hazard that if Mike Moore was looking to by a sports team there would not be a word from the left and that if he were dropped from consideration you and and all the rest of the anti Amreican left would be screaming bloody murder.

pooltchr
10-15-2009, 10:46 AM
The latest word is that there was another investor in the group with Rush named George Soros.
Wouldn't that have been an interesting pair?

The whole thing is absolutely insane. The fact that anyone can prevent someone (anyone) from investing in a business just because they don't like them personally is counter to the very core of the freedoms we enjoy in this country.

Should we prevent Wolfie from buying stock in certain companies because he is a wingbat? NOPE! He has every right to invest his money wherever he feels it will give him a good return on his investment.

It's a sad day. More of our freedom has just been eroded.

Steve

wolfdancer
10-15-2009, 12:19 PM
I think George Steinbrenner and Al Davis are enough of a distraction to their respective sports teams. Sports is entertainment, and an escape from the troubling things about the world around us. Having a controversial person like Newt as an owner, loved by many on one side of the aisle, and detested by many on the other side, could not only detract from the game itself, but could alienate a percentage of their fan base; might even cause dissension amongst the players themselves.
I think the big problem for the people here, who claim this threatens the very foundations that our democracy is built on, boils down to one word ........"union", as in player's union.
Unions, they feel are both socialistic, and communistic, and people should just work at the behest of their employers, and be compensated according to the employer's benevolence. I think of it as "plantation mentality" " yessuh, Massah"
It's interesting that one of the defenders of Mom and apple pie mentions two others as equally as divisive, controversial as Newt...wonder what the reaction would be if they wanted "in"

Sev
10-15-2009, 02:44 PM
If you are referring to Al and Jessie. They have every right engage in any business they want. So does Moore. That I many not agree with them does not change the fact that they are free citizens of this country and have the right to pursue legal business in any endeavor they should choose.

Deeman3
10-15-2009, 02:54 PM
Even though I thought he should be allowed to buy the team, it is probably the best for him. St. Louis with a profitable football team, come on!

Then, of course, he would have had the stigma of supporting a criminal organization with all the violence and crime the players now commit.

He's better off putting his money in another area.

Sev
10-15-2009, 03:19 PM
Perhaps he can go for the Cubs. I hear they are in trouble.

sack316
10-15-2009, 03:23 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Perhaps he can go for the Cubs. I hear they are in trouble. </div></div>

I wish Mark Cuban would have been allowed into the fold there when he wanted to be. He annoys the crap out of me, but he's not afraid to spend and deal to at least try to put a good team out there.

Sack

pooltchr
10-15-2009, 03:50 PM
Wolfie, you bring up a good point. How can any organization that allows someone like Al Davis to own a team have any problem with Rush being a <u>minority</u> owner in a group. Rush would have had absolutely zero operational control over the team. They were just using his money!

Steve

wolfdancer
10-15-2009, 03:56 PM
I was not the one that first mentioned them on the thread.

wolfdancer
10-15-2009, 03:58 PM
doesn't he already support a criminal organization...wait, I'm not going to go there....I am turning over a new leaf

wolfdancer
10-15-2009, 04:07 PM
sorry, I don't like him after both listening to him, and reading attributable quotes by him. I no longer subscribe to "The Daily Worker" so I'm not sure where he is being defamed....and who knows...maybe if one can't be the most lovable public figure, they can still get the attention that they crave, by being one of the most detested

sack316
10-15-2009, 05:43 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wolfie, you bring up a good point. How can any organization that allows someone like Al Davis to own a team have any problem with Rush being a <u>minority</u> owner in a group. Rush would have had absolutely zero operational control over the team. They were just using his money!

Steve </div></div>

Al Davis was my first sorry owner that came to mind. Two more words also came to mind... Detroit Lions. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

Sack

wolfdancer
10-16-2009, 02:02 AM
I think Newt was trying to buy into the wrong sport. Baseball would be a better fit for him. His team would be noted for stealing signs, stealing bases, especially stealing home, taking the extra base,robbing hits from the other team. Their bats would be coked... er, corked.
As to comparing Newt with the other two.....Say your 87 yr old Grandmother was renting, and they needed her to move because of rent controls. George would have the place burned down to collect the insurance, and get her to vacate, Al would make sure she was in the apt at the time, Newt would torch the place himself, after tieing her up.

Gayle in MD
10-16-2009, 06:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think that this line from the commissioner, sums it up nicely:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But sport in America is at its best when it unifies, gives all of us reason to cheer, and when it transcends. Our sport does exactly that when it overcomes division and rejects discrimination and hatred." </div></div>
This union isn't exactly like Walmart workers demanding their lunch hour, rest periods, and to be paid for their O.T.....(typical socialist ideas that affect the bottom line)
......these are highly paid skilled professional athletes, who just object a total pos like him, profiting from their sport </div></div>

Yes, and I can surely understand where they are coming from given some of his DOCUMENTED statements about them.

I think the Sports Industry leaders have consistantly fought against racial insults, it's really nothing new, remember Howard Kosel?

Given that our shared interests in our sports teams are one of our unifying social elements, what happened was entirely appropriate.

One could easily apply this phenomenon to the unification we experience on an International level, through international competition in the Olympics, also, and hence, another example of certain people in our country trying to use somthing entirely appropriate, the President's trip to stump for America's chances, as a political opportunity to bash him, his efforts, and even his home town, an AMERICAN TOWN, with no appriciation for the reality of the situation, or the lack of patriotism displayed by their own actions.

It wasn't due to Sharpton, or any other Liberal, that Limpball's own team of investors dropped him, it was due to Limpball's own DOCUMENTED inappropriate, racist statements over the years, to which Industry leaders, and players, (Players were the first to speak out against Limpballs) objected.

Also has nothing whatsoever to do with "Freedom" or "Freedon of Speech"

It has to do with the very phenomenon which some claim to adhere to and live by.... accpeting the consequences for one's own actions, except when they don't like the results.

Bottom line, he brought it all on himself with his own big, ugly, nasty, slobbering mouth.

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LWW
10-16-2009, 08:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, and I can surely understand where they are coming from given some of his DOCUMENTED statements about them.</div></div>

We have already been through your "DOCUMENTED STATEMENTS" which were verified to be yet another case of you parroting the lies told to you by the party.

As I predicted, you would again parrot them in the future ... thus removing all doubt as to whether or not you knew they were lies when you repeated them.

As always with you Gayle ... we get what we expect when we read a post by you, rote recitation of moonbat crazy propaganda poured into your brain by the party.

LWW

Gayle in MD
10-16-2009, 08:31 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think George Steinbrenner and Al Davis are enough of a distraction to their respective sports teams. Sports is entertainment, and an escape from the troubling things about the world around us. Having a controversial person like Newt as an owner, loved by many on one side of the aisle, and detested by many on the other side, could not only detract from the game itself, but could alienate a percentage of their fan base; might even cause dissension amongst the players themselves.
I think the big problem for the people here, who claim this threatens the very foundations that our democracy is built on, boils down to one word ........"union", as in player's union.
Unions, they feel are both socialistic, and communistic, and people should just work at the behest of their employers, and be compensated according to the employer's benevolence. I think of it as "plantation mentality" " yessuh, Massah"
It's interesting that one of the defenders of Mom and apple pie mentions two others as equally as divisive, controversial as Newt...wonder what the reaction would be if they wanted "in"
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Newt was probably one of the most thoroughly exposed and proven hypocrites in history. That's for sure.

Limbaugh cannot be defended, there are too many videos available which prove his racism, and among them, and the worst, was the "Barack the Magic ****" and several others which include, on video, mind you, his racist statements about black football players.

I would imagine the latter was the main cause of the outrage by the players themselves, and since no one knows their politics, attempts to relegate this situation to some sort of liberal scheme to bring down democracy, or freedom, is completely absurd, and just more denial.

Imus had to take the heat from his own racist remarks, and Limbaugh has gotten away with his own racism far too long, IMO. It was high time he had to pay a price for his own racism, thoroughly documented in a number of videos.

G.

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pooltchr
10-16-2009, 08:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[, his racist statements about black football players.


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If you are talking about his comment about McNabb, there was nothing racist about it at all. He stated his opinion that much of the reason McNabb was getting so much coverage from the press was because he was a black NFL quarterback...a rarity at the time. He didn't say anything bad about McNabb or his race, but more about the reasoning of the press in devoting a lot of coverage to him.

How does that make him a racist?

Steve

LWW
10-16-2009, 08:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Limbaugh cannot be defended, there are too many videos available which prove his racism, and among them, and the worst, was the "Barack the Magic ****" and several others which include, on video, mind you, his racist statements about black football players.

G.

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http://www.milehive.com/stories09/myth-busted.jpg

Yet, somehow you can produce none ... yet continue with the deceit that they exist.

Now, here comes your nightmare Gayle ... the TRUTH, here is the facts. "BARACK THE MAGIC NEGRO" (Notice, not a racial slur as you dishonestly implied.) was a song written about an editorial printed in the left wing Los Angeles Times. It was changed from the articles title "OBAMA THE MAGIC NEGRO" to "BARACK THE MAGIC NEGRO" to avoid copyright violations. It also was not written, sung, nor in any way contain the voice or words of RL.

Every time you have misrepresented this Gayle, you have been corrected on it ... so the excuse that you weren't aware of the inaccuracy will ring hollow.

Here it is ...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><u><span style='font-size: 26pt'><span style='font-family: Arial Black'>Obama the 'Magic Negro'</span></span></u>

The Illinois senator lends himself to white America's idealized, less-than-real black man.

By David Ehrenstein
L.A.-based DAVID EHRENSTEIN writes about Hollywood and politics.
March 19, 2007

AS EVERY CARBON-BASED life form on this planet surely knows, Barack Obama, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, is running for president. Since making his announcement, there has been no end of commentary about him in all quarters musing over his charisma and the prospect he offers of being the first African American to be elected to the White House.

But it's clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination the <span style='font-size: 17pt'>"Magic Negro"</span>

The <span style='font-size: 17pt'>"Magic Negro"</span> is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. "He has no past, he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist," reads the description on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro .

He's there to assuage white "guilt" (i.e., the minimal discomfort they feel) over the role of slavery and racial segregation in American history, while replacing stereotypes of a dangerous, highly sexualized black man with a benign figure for whom interracial sexual congress holds no interest.

As might be expected, this figure is chiefly cinematic embodied by such noted performers as Sidney Poitier, Morgan Freeman, Scatman Crothers, Michael Clarke Duncan, Will Smith and, most recently, Don Cheadle. And that's not to mention a certain basketball player whose very nickname is "Magic."

Poitier really poured on the "magic" in "Lilies of the Field" (for which he won a best actor Oscar) and "To Sir, With Love" (which, along with "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner," made him a No. 1 box-office attraction). In these films, Poitier triumphs through yeoman service to his white benefactors. "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" is particularly striking in this regard, as it posits miscegenation without evoking sex. (Talk about magic!)

The same can't quite be said of Freeman in "Driving Miss Daisy," "Seven" and the seemingly endless series of films in which he plays ersatz paterfamilias to a white woman bedeviled by a serial killer. But at least he survives, unlike Crothers in "The Shining," in which psychic premonitions inspire him to rescue a white family he barely knows and get killed for his trouble. This heart-tug trope is parodied in Gus Van Sant's "Elephant." The film's sole black student at a Columbine-like high school arrives in the midst of a slaughter, helps a girl escape and is immediately gunned down. See what helping the white man gets you?

And what does the white man get out of the bargain? That's a question asked by John Guare in "Six Degrees of Separation," his brilliant retelling of the true saga of David Hampton a young, personable gay con man who in the 1980s passed himself off as the son of none other than the real Sidney Poitier. Though he started small, using the ruse to get into Studio 54, Hampton discovered that countless gullible, well-heeled New Yorkers, vulnerable to the <span style='font-size: 17pt'>"Magic Negro"</span> myth, were only too eager to believe in his baroque fantasy. (One of the few who wasn't fooled was Andy Warhol, who was astonished his underlings believed Hampton's whoppers. Clearly Warhol had no need for the accouterment of interracial "goodwill.")

But the same can't be said of most white Americans, whose desire for a noble, healing Negro hasn't faded. That's where Obama comes in: as Poitier's "real" fake son.

The senator's famously stem-winding stump speeches have been drawing huge crowds to hear him talk of uniting rather than dividing. A praiseworthy goal. Consequently, even the mild criticisms thrown his way have been waved away, "magically." He used to smoke, but now he doesn't; he racked up a bunch of delinquent parking tickets, but he paid them all back with an apology. And hey, is looking good in a bathing suit a bad thing?

The only mud that momentarily stuck was criticism (white and black alike) concerning Obama's alleged "inauthenticty," as compared to such sterling examples of "genuine" blackness as Al Sharpton and Snoop Dogg. Speaking as an African American whose last name has led to his racial "credentials" being challenged often several times a day I know how pesky this sort of thing can be.

Obama's fame right now has little to do with his political record or what he's written in his two (count 'em) books, or even what he's actually said in those stem-winders. It's the way he's said it that counts the most. It's his manner, which, as presidential hopeful Sen. Joe Biden ham-fistedly reminded us, is "articulate." His tone is always genial, his voice warm and unthreatening, and he hasn't called his opponents names (despite being baited by the media).

Like a comic-book superhero, Obama is there to help, out of the sheer goodness of a heart we need not know or understand. For as with all <span style='font-size: 17pt'>Magic Negroes</span>, the less real he seems, the more desirable he becomes. If he were real, white America couldn't project all its fantasies of curative black benevolence on him.</div></div>

Hence, if the phrase "Magic Negro" is proof of racism as you contend ... then it is in reality proof of racism on the part of the far left Los Angeles Times and you should be thanking Paul Shanklin and RL for pointing out the racism of one of the most moonbat crazy papers in America.

Instead, you choose to exonerate the Times and slime Shanklin and RL in an effort to promote an agenda of hate towards all who dissent from party dogma and the wisdom of dearest leader.

http://www.milehive.com/stories09/myth-busted.jpg

OH DEAR! Gayle busted ... AGAIN! (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,3391015.story)

LWW &lt;--- Fact checking Gayle with half my brain tied behind my back ... and still winning.

LWW
10-16-2009, 08:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[, his racist statements about black football players.


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If you are talking about his comment about McNabb, there was nothing racist about it at all.

Steve </div></div>

She is talking about whatever the party tells her to talk about.

Things such as truth are foreign concepts to the far left.

LWW