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wolfdancer
10-18-2009, 07:48 PM
Warning: don't try this on your own table, or if you have a low ceiling...or if you forget to chalk up,or if you are as uncoordinated as I am....
Larry Nevel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0quThyaBeg&feature=player_embedded)
Wu Chia-ching (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APpsm3as3-w&feature=related)

dr_dave
10-19-2009, 10:14 AM
FYI, I have a good summary of break-technique advice, along with some video and article links, here:

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/break.html#advice

Enjoy,
Dave
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Warning: don't try this on your own table, or if you have a low ceiling...or if you forget to chalk up,or if you are as uncoordinated as I am....
Larry Nevel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0quThyaBeg&feature=player_embedded)
Wu Chia-ching (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APpsm3as3-w&feature=related) </div></div>

wolfdancer
10-19-2009, 10:20 AM
Thanks, Dr. Dave !!!
Always good to see you posting here....

dr_dave
10-19-2009, 12:26 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks, Dr. Dave !!!
Always good to see you posting here.... </div></div>Thanks Wolfie. It's good to hear from you again also.

The CCB isn't nearly as active as it used to be. It seems like most people have moved to AZB.

Regards,
Dave

wolfdancer
10-19-2009, 12:46 PM
It got pretty combative here for awhile....never could understand why, since we are just exchanging pool stories, and pool tips up here. Maybe it'll work itself out...but AZB does have the larger membership.....still, I prefer this site.
Do you know that you can stream video for free at ustream.com? You can also post videos that you have made.
I'm going to teat that out at one of our weekly tournaments, and think it might end up adding to the participation....who can resist seeing themselves playing pool on the 'net?

Sev
10-19-2009, 12:48 PM
OH thats a sore subject.
Dont get him started!!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

wolfdancer
10-19-2009, 03:58 PM
nah, I'm only concerned that people are leaving here for there...I'm more worried that they seem to have lost their two brightest stars...you and Rocky

JoeW
10-19-2009, 05:53 PM
For another great breaking technique see
Colin Colenso's suggestions at

Colin's break technique (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW1tsONEI_U)

cushioncrawler
10-19-2009, 11:20 PM
Colin mooved my 12' table about 1" (just joking) -- and he woznt even breaking -- he woz just testing my cue to find its natural pivot point -- the ObjektBall ended up on the floor every shot.
madMac.

wolfdancer
10-20-2009, 12:56 AM
Joe, I've seen that before, and there are a few tips that he shows, that the avg guy could employ to improve their break....but Colin was a top shot putter as I remember, so his timing of all the muscle groups, that lead up to a powerful break would be ingrained, and better sequented ( I jes coined that thar word) then mine.
I've seen some good breakers, and a couple stand out..there was a 15 yr old up here with a break so good people stopped play to watch, and there was this guy in the Bay Area,"couldn't play a lick", but what a break . Neither one had any size to them, about like Bustamonte
I wouldn't be moving a 12 ft table, one inch if I tried to duplicate Colin's break, but I might put a 12 inch tear on a 9 ft table cloth.

cushioncrawler
10-20-2009, 05:07 AM
Woofly -- Now that i think of it -- Colin's sequins were better than mine.
madMac.

JoeW
10-20-2009, 08:31 AM
I do not have a radar gun to measure break speed and use the number of balls brought back to the kitchen (past the side pockets) as a measure of a "good" break.

Using this as a guide and watching the pros it appears that bringing 6 or 7 of 15 balls to the head of the table is a good break. There is a nice spread and if broken from the middle of the table there are few clusters.

Seems to me that a good break is more about form than power. I agree with those who say that using about 80% of the available power and a good hit are the most important things.

dr_dave
10-20-2009, 08:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JoeW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do not have a radar gun to measure break speed</div></div>FYI, if you have a computer with a microphone, here's a fairly simple way to measure your break speed:

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/break.html#measure

Regards,
Dave

JoeW
10-20-2009, 10:03 AM
Thanks Dr Dave, I will give it a try.

wolfdancer
10-20-2009, 01:43 PM
Great post !!! I might just try that out with a few friends here

1Time
11-18-2009, 01:57 PM
I learned to break like that without instruction (self taught) when I began shooting on bar tables. It's no more difficult to learn than swinging a baseball bat.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Larry Nevel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0quThyaBeg&feature=player_embedded) </div></div>

wolfdancer
11-18-2009, 03:33 PM
Similar then to a good golf swing....they keep a little power in the bag.
Watching videos of the long drive contests.....they do go all out, but they get 3 tries to hit one in the fairway.
And an even older story....The Bosox (America's Team) brought up a young promising star, Carl Yastrzemski ...who then was having batting problems. They Got the retired Ted Williams to come back and help. Carl wrote about Ted's almost effortless swing, but having the ball sailing over the fence. Ken Griffey Jr's swing had that same fluid look. Speed over power. I think it was Frank Malzone? that swung so hard that when he missed, he would fall down? I might be wrong on that
You can buy "resistance bands" which supposedly exercise the fast twitch muscles....might be good for breaking in pool?
I purchased them for golf, as all my muscles seemed to be
"half fast"
I do have a small "speed gun" I bought for golf....can't get it to register for my pool break....

1Time
11-18-2009, 03:58 PM
I broke like that for many years. But I now focus on precision with my 9ball break, weight maintained on both feet as a solid foundation, mostly just moving my upper body. A solid pop, trying to pocket 1 to 3 balls, and control the CB and 1ball.