Gayle in MD
10-23-2009, 01:04 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is a difference between election polling and opinion polling. In election polling, if Rasmussen were to distort the numbers to favor the right-wing, it is very easy to check his numbers against the actual results. The actual result of an election is the measuring stick. Predicting an election result does not translate to accurate opinion polls. It's apples to oranges.
There is no way to measure if opinion polls are accurate however. Is Gallup right or Rasmussen right about support for the Health Reform Package? There is no actual result to compare to. What can be seen is that Rasmussen's results in opinion polls generally always skew towards the right-wing opinion.
Rasmussen is a former staffer of the very right-wing Worldnetdaily.com and was a paid consultant for the Bush campaign in 2004.
Source(s):
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/tal…
2 months ago
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http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090824010728AARPoGC
on Wed Jun-03-09 01:50 PM by AlexanderProgressive
A new poll on Sonia Sotomayor by right-wing pollster Scott Rasmussen has been released. Its results differ significantly from results in other recent similar polls. Here is a comparision:
Rasmussen (June 1-2):
Confirm/Do not confirm her nomination: 41%-36%
AP/GfK (May 28-June 1)
Confirm/Do not confirm: 50%-22%
USA Today/Gallup: (May 29-31)
Confirm/Do not confirm: 54-28%
link to all Sotomayor polls.
http://pollingreport.com/Court.htm
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did you know that if you go to the Rasmussen's page you will see political commentary from Bob Novak and Michelle Malkin?
Did you know that Rasmussen once worked for the World Net Daily, one of the heavily financed right-wing joints that bashed the Clintons throughout the 90's?
And when it comes to PRIMARIES, he's not good. In NH, he had Obama by 7% and Hillary won by 3%. He played it safe by not polling Iowa, Nevada or Michigan, and got SC wrong by a 12% margin.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guys, have you noticed that in almost every opinion poll Rasmussen finds reason to make Freepers happy? (Freepers=blog readers who frequent the right-wing website Freerepublic.com. Terms often used to refer to Republicans in general).
In Gallup, for example, support for the stimulus is steady as it can be since January 11th, even before Obama took over:
This poll stands in sharp contrast with one conducted by Rasmussen less than a week ago, allegedly finding that "37% favor the legislation, 43% are opposed, and 20% are not sure."
But the discrepancy is present not only in the stimulus issue. I have seen it in many other issues as well. I don't know if this is due to the fact that Rasmussen is a partisan Republican hack who once worked for t he right-wing Worldnetdaily.com as a columnist.
Do you remember how Bush's approval by Rasmussen's count was usually around 38-40% while it stood in the low 30's in other polls?
Well, now Obama's approval is 59% there, compared to 65% in Gallup.
Coincidence?
You might say that he uses different wording or methodology, but how is it possible that this different approach ALWAYS gives an edge to the Republican party?
When it comes to election prediction, Rasmussen is accurate, apparently because he cannot distort poll numbers in this case because electoral results can be used as a measuring stick to determine whether or not he was right or wrong.
But in regard to opinion polls, there is no way to ultimately verify the accuracy of a poll. We cannot know for sure, for example, whether Gallup is right, or Rasmussen is right in telling us that support for the stimulus has crumbled as of late.
Rasmussen also tells us today that "Forty-eight percent (48%) of U.S. voters say that, generally speaking, increased government spending is bad for the economy.
Thirty-five percent (35%) believe more government spending will help the economy, and seven percent (7%) say it's likely to have no impact, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey."
But unless a referendum is conducted on the issue, we will never know whether Rasmussen was right, made this up, or utilized misleading wording in its questioning.
I think someone from the National Council on Polls should closely monitor Rasmussen's practices. His polls might be used by right-wing columnists to unfairly attack Progressive measures that attract broad support from the population.
I do not trust this fellow.
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http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/tal...a-misleadin.php (http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/truthseeker77/2009/02/is-scott-rasmussen-a-misleadin.php)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Public option debate is over. Liberals have won.
By Brent Budowsky - 10/20/09 11:50 AM ET
The Washington Post/ABC poll today is the latest proof. In the Post/ABC poll, 57 percent of voters support the strong public option; in the recent Quinnipiac poll the number is 65 percent. Countless polls reveal similar results.
The debate is over. The liberals have won. Democrats and independents support the public option by large numbers and the nation as a whole supports the public option by a substantial margin.
Peggy Noonan in last Saturday's Wall Street Journal wrote there is no new frontier because the public does not support government programs. I would pay for Ms. Noonan to take a mathematics or political science course. She seems to be unaware of the large support for the public option, not surprising since there is huge support for Medicare, another government program.
There is among some on the right a delusional unwillingness to accept facts. They go from denying global warming to denying results of poll after poll on the public option. Facts are nasty things for the flat-earth society, but facts are facts.
It is a free country, and people can believe what they want, but the fact is that liberals have won the public option debate and neither delusion nor dishonesty can deny this fact.
Source:
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/he...berals-have-won (http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/63865-public-option-debate-is-over-liberals-have-won)
The contents of this site are © 2009 Capitol Hill Publishing Corp., a subsisiary of News Communications, Inc.
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The following link should cynch it for anyone who doubts that Rasmussen Polls consistantly lean right.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif
There is no way to measure if opinion polls are accurate however. Is Gallup right or Rasmussen right about support for the Health Reform Package? There is no actual result to compare to. What can be seen is that Rasmussen's results in opinion polls generally always skew towards the right-wing opinion.
Rasmussen is a former staffer of the very right-wing Worldnetdaily.com and was a paid consultant for the Bush campaign in 2004.
Source(s):
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/tal…
2 months ago
</div></div>
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090824010728AARPoGC
on Wed Jun-03-09 01:50 PM by AlexanderProgressive
A new poll on Sonia Sotomayor by right-wing pollster Scott Rasmussen has been released. Its results differ significantly from results in other recent similar polls. Here is a comparision:
Rasmussen (June 1-2):
Confirm/Do not confirm her nomination: 41%-36%
AP/GfK (May 28-June 1)
Confirm/Do not confirm: 50%-22%
USA Today/Gallup: (May 29-31)
Confirm/Do not confirm: 54-28%
link to all Sotomayor polls.
http://pollingreport.com/Court.htm
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did you know that if you go to the Rasmussen's page you will see political commentary from Bob Novak and Michelle Malkin?
Did you know that Rasmussen once worked for the World Net Daily, one of the heavily financed right-wing joints that bashed the Clintons throughout the 90's?
And when it comes to PRIMARIES, he's not good. In NH, he had Obama by 7% and Hillary won by 3%. He played it safe by not polling Iowa, Nevada or Michigan, and got SC wrong by a 12% margin.
</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guys, have you noticed that in almost every opinion poll Rasmussen finds reason to make Freepers happy? (Freepers=blog readers who frequent the right-wing website Freerepublic.com. Terms often used to refer to Republicans in general).
In Gallup, for example, support for the stimulus is steady as it can be since January 11th, even before Obama took over:
This poll stands in sharp contrast with one conducted by Rasmussen less than a week ago, allegedly finding that "37% favor the legislation, 43% are opposed, and 20% are not sure."
But the discrepancy is present not only in the stimulus issue. I have seen it in many other issues as well. I don't know if this is due to the fact that Rasmussen is a partisan Republican hack who once worked for t he right-wing Worldnetdaily.com as a columnist.
Do you remember how Bush's approval by Rasmussen's count was usually around 38-40% while it stood in the low 30's in other polls?
Well, now Obama's approval is 59% there, compared to 65% in Gallup.
Coincidence?
You might say that he uses different wording or methodology, but how is it possible that this different approach ALWAYS gives an edge to the Republican party?
When it comes to election prediction, Rasmussen is accurate, apparently because he cannot distort poll numbers in this case because electoral results can be used as a measuring stick to determine whether or not he was right or wrong.
But in regard to opinion polls, there is no way to ultimately verify the accuracy of a poll. We cannot know for sure, for example, whether Gallup is right, or Rasmussen is right in telling us that support for the stimulus has crumbled as of late.
Rasmussen also tells us today that "Forty-eight percent (48%) of U.S. voters say that, generally speaking, increased government spending is bad for the economy.
Thirty-five percent (35%) believe more government spending will help the economy, and seven percent (7%) say it's likely to have no impact, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey."
But unless a referendum is conducted on the issue, we will never know whether Rasmussen was right, made this up, or utilized misleading wording in its questioning.
I think someone from the National Council on Polls should closely monitor Rasmussen's practices. His polls might be used by right-wing columnists to unfairly attack Progressive measures that attract broad support from the population.
I do not trust this fellow.
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http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/tal...a-misleadin.php (http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/truthseeker77/2009/02/is-scott-rasmussen-a-misleadin.php)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Public option debate is over. Liberals have won.
By Brent Budowsky - 10/20/09 11:50 AM ET
The Washington Post/ABC poll today is the latest proof. In the Post/ABC poll, 57 percent of voters support the strong public option; in the recent Quinnipiac poll the number is 65 percent. Countless polls reveal similar results.
The debate is over. The liberals have won. Democrats and independents support the public option by large numbers and the nation as a whole supports the public option by a substantial margin.
Peggy Noonan in last Saturday's Wall Street Journal wrote there is no new frontier because the public does not support government programs. I would pay for Ms. Noonan to take a mathematics or political science course. She seems to be unaware of the large support for the public option, not surprising since there is huge support for Medicare, another government program.
There is among some on the right a delusional unwillingness to accept facts. They go from denying global warming to denying results of poll after poll on the public option. Facts are nasty things for the flat-earth society, but facts are facts.
It is a free country, and people can believe what they want, but the fact is that liberals have won the public option debate and neither delusion nor dishonesty can deny this fact.
Source:
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/he...berals-have-won (http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/63865-public-option-debate-is-over-liberals-have-won)
The contents of this site are © 2009 Capitol Hill Publishing Corp., a subsisiary of News Communications, Inc.
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The following link should cynch it for anyone who doubts that Rasmussen Polls consistantly lean right.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif