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Qtec
10-24-2009, 12:20 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After seven years of forced silence, a government whistleblower is opening up on what she learned while working as a Turkish translator for the FBI in the wake of 9/11.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>In sworn testimony to attorneys on Aug. 8, Sibel Edmonds described a Pentagon where key personnel helped pass defense secrets to foreign agents or provided them names of knowledgeable officials who were vulnerable to blackmail or co-option.
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And firmly rooted in this espionage program in the 1990s, according to Edmonds’ deposition, were two men who, with the election of George W. Bush as president in 2000, found themselves in the Pentagon: <span style='font-size: 20pt'><u>Douglas Feith,</u> who would head the Office of Special Plans, and <u>Richard Perle</u>, who would become chairman of the Defense Advisory Board.</span>

"They were 100 percent directly involved," Edmonds told Military.com. "They were not in the Pentagon [in the late 1990s] but they had their people inside the Pentagon." One of those people, she said, was Larry Franklin, an Air Force officer assigned to the Office of Special Plans who, in 2003, passed classified information to representatives of the American Israel Public Affairs Office, or AIPAC. By then Feith was leading the OSP. </div></div> link (http://www.military.com/news/article/ex-fbi-translator-claims-spying-at-dod.html)

Crazy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Perle, today a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and board member for or adviser to other think tanks, including the National Institute for Neareast Affairs and the Center for Security Policy, emphatically denied Edmonds’ claims in an interview with Military.com.

“This woman is a nutcase. Certifiable,” Perle said. “She makes wild accusations. She was fired from her job, and has been on a vendetta against … imagined demons ever since.”

Feith, in an email to Military.com, said: “What I’ve read on the Internet about Ms. Edmonds’s claims about me is wildly false and bizarre.” </div></div>

Not so fast.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Edmonds, who has degrees from George Washington University and George Mason University, speaks Turkish, Farsi, and Azerbaijani. She got into the world of FBI investigations and counter-intelligence after 9/11, when the FBI contacted her about coming to work as a Turkish translator. In short order she was on the job and translating documents going as far back as the mid-90s, as well as assisting special agents in the field who were monitoring both “foreign entities” and the public officials linked to them.

But not long after she joined the bureau another Turkish translator came on board – Malec Can Dickerson. And in December 2001 Dickerson and her husband, Douglas, then an Air Force major, tried to recruit her to join American Turkish Council -- an organization that was actually being monitored by the FBI. Also, according to Edmonds, Douglas Dickerson had previously worked with Grossman in Turkey and, though assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency, was working for Feith’s OSP and also as a coordinator with the State Department on the Turkey Republics in Central Asia.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'><u>Edmonds reported the attempted recruitment, but no action was taken.</u> She said she soon found evidence that Malec Can Dickerson included false information on her FBI job application. <u>Again, no response from officials, she said.

When the FBI finally did act, in March 2002, it was to fire her.</u> When she appealed her termination and eventually sued, the Justice Department, then under John Ashcroft, invoked a “state’s secret’ privilege to prevent her from talking about what she knew. <u>When Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, looked into her case and found it credible, Ashcroft invoked the same gag order on them.</u>

The Justice Department’s own Inspector General’s report was barred from release by Ashcroft, though when an unclassified version finally became available in 2005 it concluded that <u>“many of Edmonds’s core allegations relating to the co-worker [Malec Can Dickerson] had some basis in fact and were supported by either documentary evidence or witnesses other than Edmonds.</u>” </span></div></div>


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Qtec
10-24-2009, 08:40 AM
What, nobody?
I guess <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In sworn testimony </div></div> doesn't mean that much any more.
This woman is putting her freedom on the line and making some very serious accusations.....and Fox and the MS media are ignoring it.........why?
If she is lying then she is going to jail but they have tried to stop her speaking for 7 years.
Where are the Nat Sec GOP fanatics when you need them? Where is the outrage?

Who was more safe when Saddam was deposed...the USA or Israel?

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Sev
10-24-2009, 08:58 AM
Actually not familiar with the case.

However if the woman is telling the truth then the information needs to get out. Spying and blackmail are unacceptable activities to say the least.

Gayle in MD
10-24-2009, 09:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After seven years of forced silence, a government whistleblower is opening up on what she learned while working as a Turkish translator for the FBI in the wake of 9/11.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>In sworn testimony to attorneys on Aug. 8, Sibel Edmonds described a Pentagon where key personnel helped pass defense secrets to foreign agents or provided them names of knowledgeable officials who were vulnerable to blackmail or co-option.
</span>
And firmly rooted in this espionage program in the 1990s, according to Edmonds’ deposition, were two men who, with the election of George W. Bush as president in 2000, found themselves in the Pentagon: <span style='font-size: 20pt'><u>Douglas Feith,</u> who would head the Office of Special Plans, and <u>Richard Perle</u>, who would become chairman of the Defense Advisory Board.</span>

"They were 100 percent directly involved," Edmonds told Military.com. "They were not in the Pentagon [in the late 1990s] but they had their people inside the Pentagon." One of those people, she said, was Larry Franklin, an Air Force officer assigned to the Office of Special Plans who, in 2003, passed classified information to representatives of the American Israel Public Affairs Office, or AIPAC. By then Feith was leading the OSP. </div></div> link (http://www.military.com/news/article/ex-fbi-translator-claims-spying-at-dod.html)

Crazy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Perle, today a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and board member for or adviser to other think tanks, including the National Institute for Neareast Affairs and the Center for Security Policy, emphatically denied Edmonds’ claims in an interview with Military.com.

“This woman is a nutcase. Certifiable,” Perle said. “She makes wild accusations. She was fired from her job, and has been on a vendetta against … imagined demons ever since.”

Feith, in an email to Military.com, said: “What I’ve read on the Internet about Ms. Edmonds’s claims about me is wildly false and bizarre.” </div></div>

Not so fast.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Edmonds, who has degrees from George Washington University and George Mason University, speaks Turkish, Farsi, and Azerbaijani. She got into the world of FBI investigations and counter-intelligence after 9/11, when the FBI contacted her about coming to work as a Turkish translator. In short order she was on the job and translating documents going as far back as the mid-90s, as well as assisting special agents in the field who were monitoring both “foreign entities” and the public officials linked to them.

But not long after she joined the bureau another Turkish translator came on board – Malec Can Dickerson. And in December 2001 Dickerson and her husband, Douglas, then an Air Force major, tried to recruit her to join American Turkish Council -- an organization that was actually being monitored by the FBI. Also, according to Edmonds, Douglas Dickerson had previously worked with Grossman in Turkey and, though assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency, was working for Feith’s OSP and also as a coordinator with the State Department on the Turkey Republics in Central Asia.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'><u>Edmonds reported the attempted recruitment, but no action was taken.</u> She said she soon found evidence that Malec Can Dickerson included false information on her FBI job application. <u>Again, no response from officials, she said.

When the FBI finally did act, in March 2002, it was to fire her.</u> When she appealed her termination and eventually sued, the Justice Department, then under John Ashcroft, invoked a “state’s secret’ privilege to prevent her from talking about what she knew. <u>When Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, looked into her case and found it credible, Ashcroft invoked the same gag order on them.</u>

The Justice Department’s own Inspector General’s report was barred from release by Ashcroft, though when an unclassified version finally became available in 2005 it concluded that <u>“many of Edmonds’s core allegations relating to the co-worker [Malec Can Dickerson] had some basis in fact and were supported by either documentary evidence or witnesses other than Edmonds.</u>” </span></div></div>


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The sad thing is there is a whole list of former CIA, dedicated, and removed because they knew too much....John O' Neil?

All of Bush's Lies? Greenspans Admission that the war in Iraq was a war for oil? The business history between the Bush family, and the bin Laden's, and the Saudi's, and their connections to the terrorist attacks...which in turn, can justify invading Iraq? The order goes out not to kill bin Laden?

Imagine obama getting away with all of this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXk0LFVAgHE

Cheney at halliburton for ten years, and the Bush connection to the Carlyle group, and Bush Sr., with the bin Ladens on 9/11....
right in Washington...





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmtPBTybQ9k&feature=channel



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNuosBnlw...rom=PL&index=43 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNuosBnlw5s&feature=PlayList&p=BFD716DBABCB20DC&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=43)

LWW
10-24-2009, 05:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually not familiar with the case.

However if the woman is telling the truth then the information needs to get out. Spying and blackmail are unacceptable activities to say the least. </div></div>

Agreed.

What's funny is that those on the left with their shorts in a knot over this had no issue with Sandy Berger's docks in the socks escapade.

LWW