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llotter
11-15-2009, 01:11 PM
The 10 poorest cities in America.............



City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level

1. Detroit , MI 32.5%

2. Buffalo , NY 29..9%

3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%

4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%

5. Miami , FL 26.9%

5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%

7. El Paso , TX 26.4%

8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%

9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%

10. Newark , NJ 24.2%


U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007
What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?


Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961;


Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)..since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952;

Newark, NJ (10th)...since 1907.


Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'


It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats---yet they are still
POOR

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
Abraham Lincoln


......and Mr. Obama, you ain't no Abe Lincoln

cushioncrawler
11-15-2009, 02:53 PM
What iz the question ???????

llotter
11-15-2009, 03:06 PM
Merely illustrating that the Democrats have not been very helpful in these cities, the 10 poorest, and maybe they won't be any more helpful improving our current situation. The question is, are Dems really the answer? Probably not, based on this evidence.

cushioncrawler
11-15-2009, 04:38 PM
llotter -- In the usofa there will allways be the 10 poorest citys. But u hav a good point.
It might be true that there would be less poverty if they had elekted a Republican. Lots of industry iz uzually attrakted to a pool of poor.
But i am thinking that nowadays things are different -- it aint that simple no more.
What with hi'tek machines -- and hi'tek industrys -- etc.
What with global shit happening -- ie cheap labour overseas.
Did i read that lots of management nowadays preferred to hav their companys located in nice places to liv.
madMac.

cushioncrawler
11-15-2009, 05:17 PM
"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.”
So, it appears that the usofa system iz based on having a “The Poor” and having a “The Rich”. Any system where u sometimes or all the time hav a poor and where u hav an ongoing debate about the good of helping the poor iz a shit system.

“You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.”
Once again – a system that haz a weak and a strong iz a shit system.
Hmmmm – why didn’t Abe say …..
“U can strengthen the weak by strengthening the strong”.

“You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.”
Duz anyone beleev that nowadayz ???????
Why didn’t Abe say…..
“U cannot bring about prosperity by encouraging thrift.”

“You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.”
Hmmmmm -- so – pulling’down and weakening and destroying the rich and strong and the wage’payers iznt good.
But Abe didn’t say that pushing’up and strengthening and creating were good – why not?????

“You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.”
Hmmmmm – iz Abe here saying……..
“Don’t hate the rich or the strong or the wage’payer.”

“You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.”
Hmmmmm -- the rich need character and courage??????

“You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
Hmmmmmm – so how else can we help the rich and strong – did Obama do the wrong thing for banks etc.

What in hell woz Abe’s speech all about?????????????
It appears that there woz no prosperity at that time – iznt this the fault of the system or something??????????
Who iz “you” ????????
Lots of “Cannots” in there – not many “Cans” in there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why didn’t Abe say “Yes we can” ??????????? Would make more sense.
madMac.

llotter
11-15-2009, 05:57 PM
There are a couple economic axioms that I think explain why the cities are poor. First, if you subsidize something you get more of it and if you tax it you get less. The Democrats have a long history of subsidizing non-work and taxing work and that ends up with more people dependent on government with less people willing to pay for it. The Dems like to buy votes with other peoples money and that seems to work out well for them but not so well for the citizens.

The second axiom is that government is always less efficient than the private sector at creating wealth so the more gov. displaces the private sector the more poverty will result.

Therefore, I think it would be good if our country wants to compete successfully in the world markets and we don't have any choice if we want to remain free, to minimize government involvement and maximize individual opportunity to use their own initiatives. My believe is that free people will defeat less free people and the more government control and planning beyond very basic infrastructure makes us both less free and less competitive.

cushioncrawler
11-15-2009, 06:43 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.......Therefore, I think it would be good if our country wants to compete successfully in the world markets and we don't have any choice if we want to remain free, to minimize government involvement and maximize individual opportunity to use their own initiatives. My believe is that free people will defeat less free people and the more government control and planning beyond very basic infrastructure makes us both less free and less competitive.</div></div>llotter -- Competing in the world markets depends mainly on proportional advantage.
But dont tell China about our little secret about remaining free, and minimizing gov involvement and maxing individual opportunity -- and if China ever find out that free people will defeat less free people then we will all end up up shit creek.
madMac.

llotter
11-15-2009, 07:27 PM
Unfortunately, we no long believe in freedom ourselves as the majority here now depend on government for a significant amount of their income. And just like that list of poor cities, that is where we are all headed, except for the rich, of course, and a lot of those bureaucrats.