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Gayle in MD
11-21-2009, 10:02 AM
One thing we should all be able to agree on, is that our country is best protected by an eduated electorate!


As I have often written, the best way to do this is by watching Charlie Rose, and Bill Moyers Journal, and of course, reading books, instead of watching cable news.


Here is a link to Charlies Rose's recent interviews.

I highly recommend the latest interviews with Thomas Friedman, Warren Buffet, Stephen P. Cohen, Peter Orzag, and Andrew Ross Sorkin, this last, you will have to search for on the website, because I dont see it on this page...

Also. Bill Moyers aired segments from the Johnson tapes, which sould give anyone who thinks we should escalate in Afghanistan, or that we should have stayed longer in Vietnam, plenty to think about, as it points out the futility of fighting wars in countries which are corrupt, and where the populace isn't fired up to make changes in their own lives.

The entire falicy of listening to Generals on the ground, for the best way forward, for me, atleast, was blown away by these tapes, so clear that Generals are not the people who should set policies.....



http://www.charlierose.com/guest/grid/recent


also, Michael Winship, at the same Moyers link, sheds a good deal of light on the legal decision of holding the trial of the terrorist, in NY.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/

Additionally, Mr. Andrew Ross Sorkin's new book, is an incredibly good read. The documentaion is excellent, and it is probably the most interesting read on the recent Bush Administration's Economic Crash, of any I have read so far....with a time line, and from the personal slant of the people most involved, and how the events unfolded...a human take on the subject. The most interesting economics book I've ever read.

Product Description
A real-life thriller about the most tumultuous period in America’s financial history by an acclaimed New York Times Reporter

Andrew Ross Sorkin delivers the first true behind-the-scenes, moment-by-moment account of how the greatest financial crisis since the Great Depression developed into a global tsunami. From inside the corner office at Lehman Brothers to secret meetings in South Korea, and the corridors of Washington, Too Big to Fail is the definitive story of the most powerful men and women in finance and politics grappling with success and failure, ego and greed, and, ultimately, the fate of the world’s economy.

“We’ve got to get some foam down on the runway!” a sleepless Timothy Geithner, the then-president of the Federal Reserve of New York, would tell Henry M. Paulson, the Treasury secretary, about the catastrophic crash the world’s financial system would experience.

Through unprecedented access to the players involved, Too Big to Fail re-creates all the drama and turmoil, revealing never disclosed details and elucidating how decisions made on Wall Street over the past decade sowed the seeds of the debacle. This true story is not just a look at banks that were “too big to fail,” it is a real-life thriller with a cast of bold-faced names who themselves thought they were too big to fail.

G.

pooltchr
11-21-2009, 06:34 PM
Is this the same Gayle who screamed bloody murder about how Bush should have listened to his generals on the ground?

Steve

llotter
11-22-2009, 07:20 PM
I agree with Gayle on this point. There is no substitute for a good education to sustain a free society and the most important source for that education would be Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and Fox News for a well balanced and objective information.

It is no wonder that Gayle has such a distorted understanding of the world considering her leftist, anti-American sources of information. It is really laughable that she actually admits where all that garbage comes from and a true sign of her naivety that she would actually lest them. It is also no surprise that we are all headed into the abyss with ideas like these in control of our country. What a silly girl.

wolfdancer
11-24-2009, 11:28 AM
Should be an interesting read.
I see the usual "attack the messenger..." is underway.
I'm always amazed that these people cling to this stale, false, premise that insulting the poster, somehow negates the post?

pooltchr
11-24-2009, 12:19 PM
I'm always amazed that people can cling to the false premise that repeating lies and misrepresentations that are fed to them by the left leadership somehow makes them true.

Steve

wolfdancer
11-24-2009, 01:28 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">“We’ve got to get some foam down on the runway!” a sleepless Timothy Geithner, the then-president of the Federal Reserve of New York, would tell Henry M. Paulson, the Treasury secretary, about the catastrophic crash the world’s financial system would experience.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From inside the corner office at Lehman Brothers to secret meetings in South Korea, and the corridors of Washington </div></div>
I wonder if you could forward your copy of the book, along with a yellow crayon, to our resident financial expert....so that he could highlite the left wing lies being promoted by the book's author.

Sev
11-24-2009, 10:25 PM
Actually education is only a start.
Combining education with actual experience gives one wisdom. Many well educated individuals have no life experience in the areas they profess to be knowledgeable in.

wolfdancer
11-24-2009, 11:31 PM
I don't have a ******* clue about what your post has to do with the price of tea in China. Steve is claiming that he knows more then the parties involved, whom he claims are lying. I..... just want him to point out in the pages of that book, the lies,that have misled poor, uneducated us, given his real life experiences,etc. Or maybe you can point out them out yourself, since you are another one here that claims to be part of the rw luminati.
Do you really believe that your post contains some original thoughts, that we have never considered before? It might go over big on your home site, ....but I think that topic was discussed in my 6th grade.

pooltchr
11-25-2009, 01:26 PM
wolfie, many of us have pointed out so many lies from the left on so many occasions, and you deny the facts when they are right in front of you.

What's the point?

You don't get seconds until you have finished what is already on your plate!

Steve

wolfdancer
11-25-2009, 03:05 PM
Well, yeah....but how about that Clinton/Lewinski thing?
Doesn't that discredit everything that Moyers, Rose, or their quests have to say.
And given the fact that 3 prominent spokespersons for the right,3-count em, 3 "insiders", on this thread ....all lay claim to know more then Mr. Andrew Ross Sorkin.......therefore, why would anyone buy Sorkin's book....when they could read the "facts" here? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
And then there is their counter claim that Fox actually has the real truth.
I think Fox should run a couple of disclaimers:
"the opinions expressed by our news "common-tators" are not to be taken literally by anyone with an IQ above room temp.
The following stories are true, only the facts have been changed to protect the innocent"

I just ran across a ying to Bill's yang...
Kill Bill, Vol 4 (http://http://www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com/)

wolfdancer
11-26-2009, 01:26 AM
I watch the media, read the newspaper, and follow many current event stories on the internet.
About the only information that I need from you, is "when will you be resigning here?"
Where you get the idea that you are the male equivalent of the Oracle of Delphi, is beyond me. She, by the way delivered her messages only to those that sought her advice. I don't ever remember anybody here, asking for your $.02, but I could be wrong? I wouldn't care to read your local Rag up there, The Charlotte Observer...but maybe that's where you get your special insider's info... if you want to buy me a subscription, I can use it to train my friend's puppies on.....
Maybe you could compile the best of your posts, on politics, the War, the economy, and put them on a CD that people could purchase. I'd buy them as I need more drink coasters.
You can keep on with your fantasy that you are bringing "eyes only" info to the board here,that you alone possess, along with your special insights re that "news". Just count me out as a fan. You probably won't be able to educate Gayle either, as between her viewing CNN,C-Span, and reading the expose books as they come out, She might be slightly biased against your "facts"
I'm sure though, that the rest of the members here will keep on looking forward to your "Breaking News Stories"

wolfdancer
11-26-2009, 01:35 AM
I have a new theory about you...maybe the agenesis of the corpus callosum, the thick bundle of nerve tissue that connects the two hemispheres of the brain in most people does not exist in your brain.
Not to worry though, Kim Peek has the same problem, but is brilliant. He does need someone to help him brush his teeth, so if you can do that, you are smarter then him.

pooltchr
11-26-2009, 08:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">About the only information that I need from you, is "when will you be resigning here?"
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I'm sure you and some of your friends would love to silence anyone who challenges you on this board. It must be tough to always be trying to defend the flawed leftist socialist philosophy.

Ain't gonna happen, Bud! You probably need to run off to
Gayle's private blog if all you want is tatal agreement.

Steve