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Qtec
01-24-2010, 11:19 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bauer: Furor over comments won't change stance
By LEROY CHAPMAN JR. - lchapman@thestate.com
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Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer said Saturday he could have chosen his words more carefully <span style='font-size: 20pt'>when he compared people who take public assistance to stray animals Friday.</span>

But Bauer, in an interview with The State Saturday, said a furor over his comments doesn't change this fact: South Carolina needs to have an honest conversation about the cycle of government dependency among its poorest residents.

Bauer, a two-term Republican who is running for governor, said there are parents who are dependent upon the government for food and shelter, but who are unwilling to engage in their children's education. This, he said, robs children of a chance to break out of poverty.

And as a candidate for governor, Bauer said, now is the time to start talking about something that others are unwilling to tackle. Bauer said he wants to lead that conversation.

"Why shouldn't you have to do something?" Bauer asked of people receiving food stamps, free school lunches and public housing. "In government, we are too often giving a handout instead of a hand up." <span style="color: #990000">Another brainless C-Street candidate........he should go far.</span>

Friday, Bauer said giving food to needy people means encouraging dependence. It also gives the recipients a license to have children who will also be dependent on public aid, he said.

"My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals," Bauer told a Greenville-area crowd. "You know why? Because they breed.

"You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don't think too much further than that. And so what you've got to do is you've got to curtail that type of behavior. They don't know any better." </div></div>

Meanwhile,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lt. Gov. Bauer caught twice for speeding recently, <span style='font-size: 20pt'>got no tickets</span>
"I accept responsibility for having a lead foot." "I accept responsibility for having a lead foot."

(Columbia-AP) March 28, 2006 - Lieutenant Governor Andre Bauer has been <span style='font-size: 20pt'>stopped at least twice for speeding in the past four months, <u>but did not get a ticket.</u></span>

WIS obtained a copy of Bauer's driving record. It show's that since 1997, the lieutenant governor has had two accidents, four tickets and one suspended license for failure to pay a ticket.

That does not include the warning he got in late December for speeding in Laurens County, or the time he was stopped and still not ticketed for going more than 100 miles an hour down I-77 in Chester County.

On the day after Christmas on Interstate 385 in Laurens County, a highway patrol officer pulls up on a 2006 BMW. The patrolman has clocked the car at about 77 in a 65 mile-an-hour zone. Behind the wheel is Lieutenant Governor Andre Bauer. Looking for his registration, Bauer warns the officer he might have a gun in the glovebox, and he wants to know if he's being videotaped.

Bauer's explanation for going too fast? "Just running late as usual."

The trooper recognizes the lieutenant governor and Bauer gets a warning <u>but no ticket.</u>

Two months later, on February 25 in Chester County, two troopers target a state-issued Crown Victoria blasting down I-77 at over 100 miles an hour. As the troopers try to catch up, someone on their police radio calls to let them know the driver of the car is "SC-2," code for the lieutenant governor.

<u>It is Bauer himself, using a two-way radio in his car.</u> [Read transcript.]

When the car finally stops, one trooper pulls alongside, sees that it's Bauer, and waves him on. No ticket is issued, not even a warning.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>Public safety director Jim Schweitzer says, "What we're telling our troopers is that we treat everyone, no matter their status, fairly and equitably."</span> Yeah right. LOL

The lieutenant governor has had at least one other run-in with law enforcement. In 2003, a police officer stopped Bauer for speeding and running red lights in downtown Columbia. Bauer was going 60 miles-an-hour in a 35 miles-per-hour zone. The officer briefly held Bauer at gunpoint. </div></div>

Typical GOP Conservative twat.....

Q link (http://www.thestate.com/local/story/1125111.html)

LWW
01-25-2010, 07:36 AM
Your point is, as always, elusive.

LWW

Gayle in MD
01-25-2010, 08:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bauer: Furor over comments won't change stance
By LEROY CHAPMAN JR. - lchapman@thestate.com
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Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer said Saturday he could have chosen his words more carefully <span style='font-size: 20pt'>when he compared people who take public assistance to stray animals Friday.</span>

But Bauer, in an interview with The State Saturday, said a furor over his comments doesn't change this fact: South Carolina needs to have an honest conversation about the cycle of government dependency among its poorest residents.

Bauer, a two-term Republican who is running for governor, said there are parents who are dependent upon the government for food and shelter, but who are unwilling to engage in their children's education. This, he said, robs children of a chance to break out of poverty.

And as a candidate for governor, Bauer said, now is the time to start talking about something that others are unwilling to tackle. Bauer said he wants to lead that conversation.

"Why shouldn't you have to do something?" Bauer asked of people receiving food stamps, free school lunches and public housing. "In government, we are too often giving a handout instead of a hand up." <span style="color: #990000">Another brainless C-Street candidate........he should go far.</span>

Friday, Bauer said giving food to needy people means encouraging dependence. It also gives the recipients a license to have children who will also be dependent on public aid, he said.

"My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals," Bauer told a Greenville-area crowd. "You know why? Because they breed.

"You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don't think too much further than that. And so what you've got to do is you've got to curtail that type of behavior. They don't know any better." </div></div>

Meanwhile,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lt. Gov. Bauer caught twice for speeding recently, <span style='font-size: 20pt'>got no tickets</span>
"I accept responsibility for having a lead foot." "I accept responsibility for having a lead foot."

(Columbia-AP) March 28, 2006 - Lieutenant Governor Andre Bauer has been <span style='font-size: 20pt'>stopped at least twice for speeding in the past four months, <u>but did not get a ticket.</u></span>

WIS obtained a copy of Bauer's driving record. It show's that since 1997, the lieutenant governor has had two accidents, four tickets and one suspended license for failure to pay a ticket.

That does not include the warning he got in late December for speeding in Laurens County, or the time he was stopped and still not ticketed for going more than 100 miles an hour down I-77 in Chester County.

On the day after Christmas on Interstate 385 in Laurens County, a highway patrol officer pulls up on a 2006 BMW. The patrolman has clocked the car at about 77 in a 65 mile-an-hour zone. Behind the wheel is Lieutenant Governor Andre Bauer. Looking for his registration, Bauer warns the officer he might have a gun in the glovebox, and he wants to know if he's being videotaped.

Bauer's explanation for going too fast? "Just running late as usual."

The trooper recognizes the lieutenant governor and Bauer gets a warning <u>but no ticket.</u>

Two months later, on February 25 in Chester County, two troopers target a state-issued Crown Victoria blasting down I-77 at over 100 miles an hour. As the troopers try to catch up, someone on their police radio calls to let them know the driver of the car is "SC-2," code for the lieutenant governor.

<u>It is Bauer himself, using a two-way radio in his car.</u> [Read transcript.]

When the car finally stops, one trooper pulls alongside, sees that it's Bauer, and waves him on. No ticket is issued, not even a warning.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>Public safety director Jim Schweitzer says, "What we're telling our troopers is that we treat everyone, no matter their status, fairly and equitably."</span> Yeah right. LOL<span style="color: #990000">[/color]

The lieutenant governor has had at least one other run-in with law enforcement. In 2003, a police officer stopped Bauer for speeding and running red lights in downtown Columbia. Bauer was going 60 miles-an-hour in a 35 miles-per-hour zone. The officer briefly held Bauer at gunpoint. </div></div>

Typical GOP Conservative twat.....

Q link (http://www.thestate.com/local/story/1125111.html) </div></div>

[color:#000066]Absolutely! </span>

LWW
01-25-2010, 09:19 AM
I see Gayle is stalking right behind me in every thread again.

LWW

llotter
01-25-2010, 09:45 AM
Now that the world's problems are nearly all solved by The Moron, the lefties begin looking around for smaller 'imperfections' to which they can devote their incredible skills. Utopia is about to descend on us all so we all better be looking at our own lives and be prepared for teams of compliance specialists to help us avoid inefficiencies and mistakes. Be prepared for total joy in living.

eg8r
01-25-2010, 01:07 PM
So what is your motive in giving the subject heading..."Un-Christian Christians".

Based on what you provided, we have a guy that is getting away with speeding (which I don't agree with) and believes you should teach someone how to fish instead of just providing them a meal (which I agree with).

eg8r

Bobbyrx
01-25-2010, 10:58 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> 74-year-old N.C. state senator shoots, wounds intruder at his home

TABOR CITY, N.C. — A sheriff says a North Carolina state senator shot one of two intruders at his home and hospital officials say the man is in fair condition.

Multiple media outlets reported that Columbus County Sheriff Chris Batten said that 74-year-old Sen. R.C. Soles of Tabor City shot Kyle Blackburn late Sunday afternoon.

A spokeswoman at Loris Community Hospital in South Carolina said Monday that Blackburn was in fair condition.

Batten says the shooting occurred when two men went to the senator’s house and tried to kick in his front door. No charges have been filed.

The sheriff’s office said the State Bureau of Investigation was handling the case. A call to an agency spokeswoman was not immediately returned. There was no answer at a number listed for Soles’ home.
The Democrat has been in the Senate 32 years.
</div></div> link (http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/national/article/74-year-old_n.c._state_senator_shoots_wounds_intruder_at_h is_home/287987/P10)

But.... <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thursday, a Columbus County grand jury found probable cause to seek an indictment against Soles for assault with a deadly weapon inflicting serious injury.

In late August, Soles shot 22-year-old Kyle Blackburn outside the Senator's home in Tabor City.

Blackburn was a client of Soles’ law firm. Soles told police he shot Blackburn in self-defense, saying that Blackburn was trying to break into his home. Blackburn told us he was leaving the property when he was shot.

While what happens within a grand jury proceeding is secret, we can presume that ballistics evidence was part of what was reviewed yesterday, specifically whether the bullet wound indicated that Blackburn was facing the Senator or running away when he was shot.

</div></div> link (http://www.wwaytv3.com/node/19818)

And now it turns out that he is not only State Senator Soles but also long time anti-gun advocate State Senator Soles and a Democrat. And also was the subject of an SBI investigation over sexual misconduct allegations with former male clients.

The problem with bringing up Republican state senators and representatives who are creeps is that I can bring up 5 Democrats for every 1 Republican, especially in the South. Not that they are any better or worse, but that there are so many more Democrats in elected positions in the South. As Sack or Deeman would attest to, we could just stay in the state of Alabama for a week or two. You could write a book on former mayor of Birmingham, soon to be inmate, Larry Langford.......and I bet HE will........

pooltchr
01-26-2010, 07:53 AM
One of Alinsky's rules for radicals is to hold the opposition to a higher standard than can possibly be met. So Republicans are not allowed to be scum, but it's ok for liberals because they don't even claim to have any ethics!

Every conservative should read rules for radicals. It's truely amazing how closely tied to the book the tactics of the Dems have become.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

Steve

Qtec
01-26-2010, 08:29 AM
You miss the point.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 17pt'>Bauer said giving food to needy people means encouraging dependence.</span> It also gives the recipients a license to have children who will also be dependent on public aid, he said.

"My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals," Bauer told a Greenville-area crowd. "You know why? Because they breed.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>"You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply.</span> They will reproduce, especially ones that don't think too much further than that. And so what you've got to do is you've got to curtail that type of behavior. They don't know any better." </div></div>




<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 20pt'>The Poor Law Amendment Act, 1834,</span> England and Wales


The workhouse system was set up in England and Wales under the Poor Law Amendment Act 1834 although many individual houses existed before this legislation. Outdoor relief was discouraged and each group of parishes had to provide a workhouse. Under the 1834 system individual parishes were formed into Poor Law Unions – each Poor Law Union was to have a union workhouse.

Inmates were free to enter and leave as they liked and would receive free food and accommodation. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>However, the concern was that too liberal a regime would lead to many people who could easily work taking it easy in the workhouse. This would lead not only to an excessive charge on charitable funds but a dilution of the work ethic. To counter this the principle of less eligibility was developed. Workhouse life was deliberately made as harsh and degrading as possible so that only the truly destitute would apply.</span> Attempts were also made to provide moral guidance, training and education to the poor.

Workhouse conditions were governed by the Consolidated General Order, <u>a formidable series of rules governing every aspect of workhouse life such as diet, dress, education, discipline and redress of grievances.</u> </div></div>

Its not the fact that the guy is a creep, there are many of those, its about what he said and how he thinks. His ideas have been tried and have failed. He wants to repeat a 200 yr old failure. Education is the way forward, not punishing people for being poor.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Act of 1672, Scotland

An act of 1672 ordered magistrates to erect "correction houses" or workhouses in which beggars could be detained and made to work, at a low pay or none at all.
[edit] Political attitude and social environment

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>From the earliest times it had always been accepted that a proportion of the population were unable to support themselves and had to be provided for.</span> </div></div>

Q

Qtec
01-26-2010, 08:52 AM
He lives in a different world from those on food stamps- 20% of the population I might add! He has no idea what he is talking about.

link (http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2010/01/03/1-in-5-american-households-lives-on-food-stamps-living-on-nothing-but-food-stamps/)

http://media.thestate.com/smedia/2009/10/29/21/5443.standalone.prod_affiliate.74.JPG



Q

Deeman3
01-26-2010, 10:33 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You miss the point.

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Its not the fact that the guy is a creep, there are many of those, its about what he said and how he thinks. His ideas have been tried and have failed. He wants to repeat a 200 yr old failure. Education is the way forward, not punishing people for being poor.


<span style="color: #FF0000">The new poor are not deprived of food in this country. In fact, most are not even deprived of cars, cell phones or even an education, which the vast majority do not take any advantage of. Speaking of a 200 year old failure, look at our schools. Education is the way forward but millions waste the vast resources we put into the system and are not required to achived but are baby sat and passed on to other schools who do the same. Education is only an escape if you use it, not just destroy the system. </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Act of 1672, Scotland

An act of 1672 ordered magistrates to erect "correction houses" or workhouses in which beggars could be detained and made to work, at a low pay or none at all.
[edit] Political attitude and social environment

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>From the earliest times it had always been accepted that a proportion of the population were unable to support themselves and had to be provided for.</span> </div></div>

Q [/quote]

<span style="color: #FF0000"> Yes and those were typically those how had physical and mental problems who might never be able to care for themsleves. Now, a large portion of our population find it easier to "accpet" welfare than to pull themsleves up. Like all cultured, the black citizens of this country were achieving great strides inthe 1960's and early 1970's but the welfare system has created generations of people with their hands out not wanting anything that can't be "given" to them. Earn is a dying word.</span>

eg8r
01-26-2010, 10:43 AM
How does your subject have anything to do with the actual thread?

eg8r

LWW
01-26-2010, 02:07 PM
Please ... some can't deal with the standards bar as low as they are now.


LWW

Gayle in MD
01-27-2010, 07:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You miss the point.

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Its not the fact that the guy is a creep, there are many of those, its about what he said and how he thinks. His ideas have been tried and have failed. He wants to repeat a 200 yr old failure. Education is the way forward, not punishing people for being poor.


<span style="color: #FF0000">The new poor are not deprived of food in this country. In fact, most are not even deprived of cars, cell phones or even an education, which the vast majority do not take any advantage of. Speaking of a 200 year old failure, look at our schools. Education is the way forward but millions waste the vast resources we put into the system and are not required to achived but are baby sat and passed on to other schools who do the same. Education is only an escape if you use it, not just destroy the system. </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Act of 1672, Scotland

An act of 1672 ordered magistrates to erect "correction houses" or workhouses in which beggars could be detained and made to work, at a low pay or none at all.
[edit] Political attitude and social environment

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>From the earliest times it had always been accepted that a proportion of the population were unable to support themselves and had to be provided for.</span> </div></div>

Q </div></div>

<span style="color: #FF0000"> Yes and those were typically those how had physical and mental problems who might never be able to care for themsleves. Now, a large portion of our population find it easier to "accpet" welfare than to pull themsleves up. Like all cultured, the black citizens of this country were achieving great strides inthe 1960's and early 1970's but the welfare system has created generations of people with their hands out not wanting anything that can't be "given" to them. Earn is a dying word.</span> [/quote]

I suppose you think they "Earned" their way into hundreds of years of slavery???? Forbidden to vote, eat where white people ate, use public transportation, get an education, own a home, start a business?

You display the ypical Republican ideology. Just let the poor children go hungry, and let them go to schools which are not as good as the schools that those who didn't have ancestors beaten down in slavery for hundreds of years, have at their disposal.

No compassion in that ideology. You call it making them dependent. I call it giving them a leg up, and the least that we can do given the history of what they suffered through, what the priviledged WHITE MAN DID TO THEM, TREATING THEM LIKE ANIMALS&lt; AND THAT SICKO IDEOLOGY STILL EXISTS AMONG REPUBLICANS.

During the Bush administration, he made a big deal about NCLB, then put a knife in Kennedy's back, by cutting the funds.

During the Republican majority, over one in six children went to bed hungry. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>They called hungry children... "Food challenged" </span>the usual Republican definition games...while during the same time, Halliburton and the rest were robbing all of us blind in Iraq, charging our troops fifty bucks for a coke,. and Bush's FREE MARKET UNREGULATER RED FLAG for the wealthy corporate pigs, ushered in the biggest Wall Street Ponzi Scheme in history, as the Middle Class suffered through flat wages, and over 700,000 lost jobs a month as Bush allowed the economy to fail, and looked the other way while Wall Street PIGS bilked Americans out of the earnings.

Incredible, how supposedly educated people can be so stunningly ignorant about what is happening right before thier eyes.

The charts all show, Republicans in, Midddle class and poor, slide, while the wealthy make out like bandits, as they bilk the rest of the country out of their opportunities for decent jobs and working conditions, and use illegals, cheap labor, and outsourcing, with no conscience about what they are doing to American Jobs for the Middle Class.

If the latest Wall Street crash hasn't awakened the right to the realities of failed Republican Policies, the Free for all kinds of crooked schemes.... so called free market, unregulated, which nearly brought down the economy of the world, nothing will.

Ignorance, no compassion, no appreciation for facts. RW propaganda was swallowed up by the ignorant religious right, too stupid to realize they were being distracted with all the "God" talk, and their cries for freedom, freedom from a government which served the purpose the founderes intended, oversight of the banking and financial industry.

If the Democratic Party hadn't gotten in, many more children would be going to bed hungry every night. I can't believe that you could defend the twsited thinking of this poor excuse for a human being...sorry, but you don't seem to recognize your own, typical Southern Racist thinking....

A mind is a terrible thing to waste...particularly when it is twisted by racially motivated POV's. There is nothing "Christian" about a well to do CEO, harboring your views about damaging the work effort, by giving a hand to hungry children and the less fortunate.

VALUES are about realizing the absurdity of spending $17,000.00 for one damn dress, to be worn one damn time, while touting a warning of dependency growing from giving food to the hungry, and speaking against offering them equal opportunities for work, health and an education, because the system is gamed against them.

G.

pooltchr
01-27-2010, 10:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[
VALUES are about realizing the absurdity of spending $17,000.00 for one damn dress,
G. </div></div>

And who specifically might have done this?

I don't suppose spending thousands of dollars on cut flowers that are going to die in a few days would fall into the same definition of absurdity, would it? How about if taxpayer dollars were used to pay for them?

Just where are your values?????????

Steve