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02-24-2010, 12:57 PM
It looks like the end is a lot closer than anyone would like.
There is an disaster in the making that I fear will end this Great Experiment in Freedom and there may be no safe harbor. I would buy gold if I had any cash but even that does not come without problems.
02-24-2010, 01:12 PM
Will the Democrats revolt and force The Moron to resign or will they allow him to seize dictatorial control using the the military? My guess is that the dictator will not go easy.
02-24-2010, 01:27 PM
The cold hard facts are not pretty. Obama has succeeded in exacerbating the problems in the economy with his reckless "Spend our way out of the economic crisis" mentality.
Yet perhaps this is what he wanted all along. Another depression would put more people in need of government assistance, More dependancy is the socialist way. We may see it much sooner than any of us ever dreamed.
Now THERE is some change to believe in!
Wolf J Flywheel
02-24-2010, 04:22 PM
I feel that Obamas policys are quite dangerous but insulting him on a personal level deters from your very valid point llotter.
02-24-2010, 11:28 PM
I like to blame him as much as anyone (well, 'like' is a poor choice of words). But truth be told, we were already heading in that direction anyway. This admin is just a little more of a Toyota /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
At any rate, the whole darn system needs to be put into check. We have democrats now doing things they previously complained about the republicans doing when they were in power. And republicans whining about democrats now doing what they used to do. Power shifts back and forth, and even though the teams are wearing different jerseys, they are each playing the same game unfortunately.
Our old friend Mike60 called me several months ago... overseas didn't sound too awful bad! (btw Mike, if you still lurk, gimmie a yell sometime, would love to hear from ya!)
02-24-2010, 11:57 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It looks like the end is a lot closer than anyone would like. There is an disaster in the making that I fear will end this Great Experiment in Freedom and there may be no safe harbor. I would buy gold if I had any cash but even that does not come without problems.</div></div>I had a look. Typikal Krappynomix.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Moron is Leading Us into Bankruptcy </div></div>To be honest all he is doing is continuing what W was trying to do at yet a faster rate than anyone could have imagined.
02-26-2010, 09:29 AM
It sounds like you are saying that because we were heading in the wrong direction before, we should not be overly concerned that we are now going faster in the wrong direction. We have a 'leader' that is the mirror image of any number of African dictators who could care less about anything or anyone beyond maintaining their power and the accoutrements of high office.
Shortly we are likely to have violence in the streets and martial law just like the fiefdoms on the Dark Continent. And the Lefties will still worshiping the ground their Messiah treads upon and support the brave and necessary actions to 'protect' us all.
02-26-2010, 11:07 AM
are you aware that there are sites on the web for people like you that preach racial intolerance, religious intolerance, political intolerance? You are really wasting your time here, as you are only "reaching" the 4 or 5 others here, that think as you do.
All you have to do is look at the reply count to any thread that you begin, and then also see if anyone,except for the usual bigots, responds favorably to your Hassreden
02-26-2010, 12:08 PM
Jack, can't you just picture him behind the wheel of this RV?
02-26-2010, 12:17 PM
that goes without saying!!!
What I am saying is that he is doing what W was doing yet I did not see you calling W a Moron and making threads about impending bankruptcy.
02-26-2010, 04:48 PM
"precious metals for freedom -- silver, gold and lead"
"saying i pay the price of their sins"
"saying i pay the price of their sins"
"obama is destroying the economy"
This iz typical krappynomix.
02-26-2010, 06:50 PM
2Ki 4:7 Then she came and told the man of God. And he said, Go, sell the oil, and pay thy debt, and live thou and thy children of the rest.
The The Holey Bible sez oil, not gold.
02-26-2010, 07:02 PM
Mac, I think you are on to something. These guys like to mention the good book, but can never quote from it, as you and I, both of us, Bible Scholars, so often do.
I tell you this board is often a test of my faith.
02-26-2010, 07:18 PM
Therefore their goods shall become a booty, and their houses a desolation: they shall also build houses, but not inhabit [them]; and they shall plant vineyards, but not drink the wine thereof.
Its too late.
02-26-2010, 07:24 PM
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Trailer parks are dangerous.
02-26-2010, 07:32 PM
Mark of commerce
He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
– Rev. 13:16-17 (NIV)
Futurist Christian eschatology typically holds that the rise of a supranational currency could be a hallmark of the End Times. Under this view, the prophetic statements in Revelation 13:16-17 are taken to imply that the one way in which the Antichrist will acquire and exercise power over the Earth during the period of the Tribulation is via hegemonic control of said supranational currency. This power would be acquired by "the Beast" (θηριον) performing miracles and subsequently requiring all people to receive the Mark of the Beast (χάραγμα branded mark, character, coin or money) in their right hands or foreheads (i.e. a place on the body where its absence would be conspicuous) in order to buy or sell, making survival for those on the run (i.e opposers of the religio-economic hegemony) much more difficult.
Religious difficulties with a supranational currency currently exist (see world currency - political difficulties). According to the Futurist view, to overcome the extant difficulties the Antichrist will use forced religious syncretism (i.e. in the name of counterterrorism and world economic stability) to enable the creation of the supranational currency. If this view of the prophecy is fulfilled, then the coming of the said world currency and its enabling technologies will have been predicted by John of Patmos with a lead time of approximately 2000 years.
02-26-2010, 07:35 PM
The Number of the Beast - 666
A meaning of the number 666, according to futurist Christian eschatology may be that the number 666 would be a significant number that all currency would be based upon. Exact interpretations of this vary widely, and many refer to nascent technologies. For example:
• Some Christians interpret the mark as a requirement for all commerce to mean that the mark might actually be an object with the function of a credit card (e.g. implanted RFID tags).
• Steven D. Miller proposes that the mark of the beast may refer to a social security number or card.
• Terry Watkins supposes the mark to be a microchip and/or a tattooed barcode on the human body.
 Other views
Alternative views to the Christian futurist one exist. Some who take a historical view of the Book of Revelation identify the Mark of the Beast with the stamped image of the emperor's head on every coin of the Roman empire: the stamp on the hand or in the mind of all, without which no one could buy or sell.
The verse is also seen as making a pointed ironical contrast with the Jewish institution of tefillin – bible texts worn bound to the arm and the forehead during daily prayer. Instead of binding their allegiance to God to their arm and head, the place is instead taken with people's allegiance to the Beast.
02-26-2010, 07:38 PM
I'm always reading about RW'rs getting into trouble over booty.
02-26-2010, 08:00 PM
Mac, some years back, that "world currency" issue was a main outcry for the John Birch Society. My p.t. "roomie" at the time, Lenore and her husband "The Colonel" were dedicated members. They even got me to attend a meeting, and I used to drive her to various locations to distribute her literature.
She had a few claims to fame. Her father had been in the Movie business and had signed Wallace Beery to his first contract. She had crossed the ocean on the Queen Mary,had been a quest at the Hearst Castle, and as her father had become an international banker, she had once sat on Hitler's lap, as a child.
She was way to the right of anyone here, but still a good person, if one could overlook the fact that she was nuts.
Sometimes, alone in my house I think back to those giddy days and muse:
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing,
Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortals ever dared to dream before;
But the silence was unbroken, and the stillness gave no token,
And the only word there spoken was the whispered word, "Lenore?"
This I whispered, and an echo murmured back the word, "Lenore!" -
Merely this, and nothing more.
03-01-2010, 04:48 PM
Bankruptcy aint necessaryly bad -- Spain did it lots.
In ancient Greece, bankruptcy did not exist. If a man (since only locally born adult males could be citizens, all legal owners of property were men) owed and he could not pay, he and his entire household, whether wife, children or servants were forced into "debt slavery", until the creditor recouped losses via their physical labor. Many city-states in ancient Greece limited debt slavery to a period of five years and debt slaves had protection of life and limb, which regular slaves did not enjoy. However, servants of the debtor could be retained beyond that deadline by the creditor and were often forced to serve their new lord for a lifetime, usually under significantly harsher conditions.
The word bankruptcy is formed from the ancient Latin bancus (a bench or table), and ruptus (broken). A "bank" originally referred to a bench, which the first bankers had in the public places, in markets, fairs, etc. on which they tolled their money, wrote their bills of exchange, etc. Hence, when a banker failed, he broke his bank, to advertise to the public that the person to whom the bank belonged was no longer in a condition to continue his business. As this practice was very frequent in Italy, it is said the term bankrupt is derived from the Italian banco rotto, broken bank (see e.g. Ponte Vecchio). Others choose rather to derive the word from the French banque, "table", and route, "vestigium, trace", by metaphor from the sign left in the ground, of a table once fastened to it and now gone. On this principle they trace the origin of bankrupts from the ancient Roman mensarii or argentarii, who had their tabernae or mensae in certain public places; and who, when they fled, or made off with the money that had been entrusted to them, left only the sign or shadow of their former station behind them.
Philip II of Spain had to declare four state bankruptcies in 1557, 1560, 1575 and 1596. Spain became the first sovereign nation in history to declare bankruptcy.
The characteristic discharge of debts was introduced to Anglo-American bankruptcy with the statute of 4 Anne ch. 17 in 1705, where the discharge of unpayable debts was offered as a reward to bankrupts who cooperated in the gathering of assets to pay what could be paid.
 The East
Bankruptcy is also documented in East Asia. According to al-Maqrizi, the Yassa of Genghis Khan contained a provision that mandated the death penalty for anyone who became bankrupt three times.
 From A Religious Context
In the Torah, or Old Testament, every seventh year is decreed by Mosaic Law as a Sabbath year wherein the release of all debts that are owed by the community is mandated, but not of "foreigners". The seventh Sabbath year, or forty-ninth year, is then followed by another Sabbath year known as the Year of Jubilee wherein the release of all debts is mandated, for fellow community members and foreigners alike, and the release of all debt-slaves is also mandated. The Year of Jubilee is announced in advance on the Day of Atonement, or the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month, in the forty-ninth year by the blowing of trumpets throughout the land of Israel.
In Islamic teaching, according to the Quran, an insolvent person should be allowed time to be able to pay out his debt. This is recorded in the Quran's second chapter (Sura Al-Baqara), Verse 280, which notes: "And if someone is in hardship, then [let there be] postponement until [a time of] ease. But if you give [from your right as] charity, then it is better for you, if you only knew."
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