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Gayle in MD
03-26-2010, 07:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Police: Bullet that hit Cantor campaign office window was randomly fired in air a long way off


BOB LEWIS

AP Political Writer

March 25, 2010 | 2:19 p.m.
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RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Richmond police say the bullet that hit a window of Republican Virginia Congressman Eric Cantor's office had been randomly fired skyward.

Amid reports of threats and vandalism against Democrats who voted Sunday for sweeping health care reforms, Cantor said at a Washington news conference Thursday that a bullet was fired into his Richmond office.

In a news release, Richmond police said that the bullet had been fired into the air early Tuesday. It hit the front window of a building that houses Cantor's campaign office as it fell to back earth at a sharp angle.

The round landed on the floor of the office a foot inside a broken window pane. No one was in the building, and police say an investigation has yielded no suspects.</span> </div></div>
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/...0,2057248.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-us-health-care-threats-cantor,0,2057248.story)

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well here we go with the latest round of Republican talking points defending their hate-filled rhetoric we've been hearing for the last year. John Pelosi-Will-Be-Breaking-Arms Shadegg explains to Chris Matthews how everyone should just play nice and get along now and attempts to paint the Democrats of acting as badly as the Democrats have. When Eugene Robinson points out that the Republicans were holding up a "Don't Tread on Me" sign and egging on the protesters outside of the Capitol last weekend, Shadegg defends it by saying that there were Democratic lawmakers over with the pro-health care bill side of the event as well. Yeah, that's exactly the same thing John. I don't believe anyone there to celebrate the bill passing was calling members of Congress racial epithets and spitting on them. As Lawrence O'Donnell pointed out tonight, the Republicans are playing their usual game right out of the Karl Rove playbook, take your main weakness and accuse the other side of doing it as well.

Oh and that supposed attack on Eric Cantor's office they're all carrying on about, looks like it was nothing more than a stray bullet.

Police: Bullet that hit Cantor campaign office window was randomly fired in air a long way off:

Richmond police say the bullet that hit a window of Republican Virginia Congressman Eric Cantor's office had been randomly fired skyward.

Amid reports of threats and vandalism against Democrats who voted Sunday for sweeping health care reforms, Cantor said at a Washington news conference Thursday that a bullet was fired into his Richmond office.

In a news release, Richmond police said that the bullet had been fired into the air early Tuesday. It hit the front window of a building that houses Cantor's campaign office as it fell to back earth at a sharp angle.

The round landed on the floor of the office a foot inside a broken window pane. No one was in the building, and police say an investigation has yielded no suspects.

I don't suspect this will be changing the GOP's views on gun control laws any time soon but they're going to use it to claim they're being threatened.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MATTHEWS: Congressman Shadegg, your fellow members, Neugebauer and his "Baby killer," line thrown out there, Joe Wilson and his line, "You lie" -- I`ll admit, Eric Cantor got a shot at his headquarters the other -- this zeitgeist out there, this atmosphere of throwing bricks through windows, this sort of scary stuff that`s going on -- and the weekend`s coming and booze is now going to be added to it Friday and Saturday night. I know what happens in this country. If you`re going into a weekend with craziness in the air, it ain`t going to settle down at Friday night at 9:00. Your thoughts?

REP. JOHN SHADEGG (R), ARIZONA: I actually think it is going to settle down Friday night at 9:00. I think it`s going to settle down the minute Congress leaves town.

I think the reality is that this goes on in politics, Chris. My first job in politics was working for the governor of Arizona taking phone calls, and I always got the phone calls from the crazies.

The answer is we need to move away from this kind of rhetoric. This was a huge piece of legislation. It was intensely debated for almost a year. Intemperate comments were made on both sides. And it`s not surprising that perhaps more were made on the minority because the minority felt very shut out.

MATTHEWS: Yes.

SHADEGG: And I can make the case that they were shut out. There`s no excuse for this. But as a prosecutor, I don`t think you`re going to see this go on. I don`t think you`re going to see it escalate. I think people have had their moment. I think that, quite frankly, there`s the focus of the press on it and everybody saying this is a bad idea, and people, quite frankly, being disgusted at anybody who isn`t saying that this is unacceptable I think is going to cause this to dissipate. The American people are interested in getting on with their lives, and I think they`re going to get on with their lives.

MATTHEWS: What about your colleagues waving the Gadsden flag, the "Don`t tread on me" flag back of the republic back in the early days of our country, over the side of the House wall there at the protesters, waving the flag, and then apparently doing the "cut your throat" line, mentioning Nancy Pelosi?

What do you make of that kind of behavior by your elected colleagues?

SHADEGG: Well, I -- I -- the flag they flew...

MATTHEWS: I`m looking at it now.

SHADEGG: OK. The flag they flew, I understand, was the "Don`t tread on me" flag? Is that the flag you`re talking about?

MATTHEWS: The Gadsden flag from South Carolina, yes, from the -- from the early days of our country, sure.

I love that flag. But it used at our enemies overseas. We used it at the London people running our country when we fought for independence. It was never used against our own country before. That`s the difference, Congressman.

SHADEGG: Oh, I agree.

(CROSSTALK)

SHADEGG: I don`t think anybody was advocating that it be used against our own country. I think what they were talking about is that there was a sentiment in the crowd -- and, if you were here, there was 250, 350, maybe 5,000 people, I don`t know, 1,000 people, outside that side of the Capitol, off of what`s called the beach.

And members were standing out there. I don`t think they were trying to incite the crowd. I think they were saying, yes, some of us agree with you. This is an intense debate. People on both sides feel very strongly.

MATTHEWS: OK. OK.

SHADEGG: It`s the part of the debate that you happen to like. It`s the part of the debate where we don`t just degree on the little stuff that we do on a bipartisan fashion. It`s where we articulate our arguments.

And I think it`s worth noting, Chris, that never before...

MATTHEWS: OK. Well, the part I like the argument. But let me just try this by you.

(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: Here`s something I don`t like.

SHADEGG: Let`s talk about the policy.

MATTHEWS: Here`s Glenn Beck. Here`s Glenn Beck today on his radio show saying that the speaker of the House and other Democratic leaders walked out of the Capitol on Sunday in a way aimed at encouraging people to kill them, to kill them.

Here`s Glenn Beck today on the radio saying this. You say the Democrats are inciting. Look at this. Listen to this.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

GLENN BECK, HOST, "GLENN BECK": I can guarantee you, they walked out and said, what the hell do you have to do to these people to get them to kill us?

(END AUDIO CLIP)

MATTHEWS: "To get them to kill us." What do you make of Glenn Beck?

SHADEGG: No excuse for that kind of rhetoric. There`s no excuse for that kind of rhetoric. I told you I began my life as a prosecutor. That kind of rhetoric is not good for the nation, not good for the dialogue.

But that does not mean that we ought to be focusing people on the out- of-the-bounds, the over-the-top rhetoric. What we ought to be focusing on is, where do we go from here? The reality is, some of us believe this legislation won`t solve the problem. And we want to go in and work on, OK, how do we fix the things that need to be fixed?

And, quite frankly, the American people understand that this was not the final bill. Republican ideas on how to fix health care didn`t disappear when this bill passed. Life goes on. Reform goes on. And this is a country in which the people, including the minority, have remedies.

They have the election, and they have all kinds of remedies other than violence.

MATTHEWS: Yes.

SHADEGG: And we ought to be talking about the fact that they have remedies other than violence.

MATTHEWS: OK.

Gene Robinson is with me from "The Washington Post."

EUGENE ROBINSON, MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST: Yes, I...

MATTHEWS: Go ask Congressman...

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>ROBINSON: Well, Congressman, I was there on Sunday. And the Republican members who came out on the balcony did whip up the crowd.</span>And my question to you is, as a prosecutor...

SHADEGG: Well, of course they whipped up the crowd, but they weren`t urging the crowd to violence. I mean, come on.

(CROSSTALK)

ROBINSON: But here`s my question to you.

(CROSSTALK)

ROBINSON: Congressman, here`s my question.

SHADEGG: Well, wait. Wait. I walked across the street on the opposite side where the pro-legislation people were chanting, and they were whipping up the crowd as well.

That`s a part of what happens in this kind of discourse in America. Just holding up the flag is not saying, go throw a brick through a window or shoot through a window, for God`s sake.

(CROSSTALK)

ROBINSON: No. No, it`s not.

MATTHEWS: Yes.

ROBINSON: But here`s my question.

SHADEGG: OK.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>ROBINSON: Let`s assume that 99.9 percent of those -- of the people in that crowd or in the Tea Party movement are -- are absolutely law-abiding, sensible people who make their policy argument and then go home.

SHADEGG: Right.

ROBINSON: It`s crazy people who do crazy things. And you look out there. When you use the specific rhetoric and the specific symbols that are -- that have been adopted by the crazy wing, by the people, you know, who are sitting at home waiting for the black helicopters to swoop down and confiscate their weapons, and you are giving those people permission to have that fantasy and to act out that fantasy, are you not?

MATTHEWS: OK. What do you make of Neugebauer`s comment, "baby killer"? What do you make of Joe Wilson`s comment, "You lie?" -- both delivered on the floor of the House? What do you think of them?

SHADEGG: I think both are inappropriate. I think both are out of line.

And I think the exploitation of those comments by both sides since then is inappropriate. Look, you know as well as I do that there are people out there fund-raising right now on the violence that`s already occurred, people on the left using that for a fund-raising device...

MATTHEWS: I know.

SHADEGG: ... people on the right using it for a fund-raising device.

My point is, we should condemn that. And you and I, as people talking to that audience of American people, which may include some crazies, ought to be reminding them that that is not what this society is about, that, in point of fact, they have the ballot. They have the right to peaceably assembly -- peaceably assemble -- and they have the right to get involved in the process.

MATTHEWS: OK.

SHADEGG: And I don`t think -- I don`t think that because they choose to wave a particular flag, that means that people who share their views shouldn`t wave that flag because there`s some nutcase in the audience?

You know, I can`t control what nutcases are in the audience are on the right, the left can`t control what nutcases are in the audience on the left.

MATTHEWS: OK. Let`s hope you`re right. Let`s hope you`re right.

SHADEGG: OK.

MATTHEWS: Let`s hope you`re right. But just remember, you and I growing up in this country, we knew that a very terrible incident in this country occurred a couple of days after a U.N. ambassador -- our U.N. ambassador, Adlai Stevenson, was spat upon in Texas.</span> </div></div>

<span style="color: #000066"> This blogger has it exactly right!</span>

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/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif My radar was telling me from the start that this was a hoax.

Gayle in MD
03-26-2010, 08:18 AM
Mighty quiet around here.

Gayle in MD
03-26-2010, 09:02 AM
<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>LOL, still no comments???? </span> </span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

LWW
03-26-2010, 12:35 PM
Yes ... you will excuse evil from the left no matter what.

But ... I already knew that.

LWW

pooltchr
03-29-2010, 02:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>LOL, still no comments???? </span> </span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif </div></div>

Seems you will now have to print a retraction and admit you were wrong...

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/29/man-accused-of-threatening-cantor/?hp

Man Accused of Threatening Cantor
By KATE PHILLIPS
Federal authorities in Philadelphia announced that a local resident has been <span style='font-size: 14pt'>charged with threatening to kill Representative Eric Cantor,</span> the No. 2 Republican in the House, according to wire service and news reports.

Just last week, Mr. Cantor blasted Democrats by accusing them of fanning the flames of violence and threats against lawmakers during the health care debate, and at the time revealed that he, too, had been a target.

Virginia authorities later deemed “random gunfire” a bullet that struck a window of Mr. Cantor’s campaign office in Richmond last week. But the latest criminal charges out of Philadelphia cite video threats made against Mr. Cantor and his family that were posted on YouTube.

The authorities have charged Norman Leboon, 33, of Philadelphia, after tracing reports out of San Francisco about the YouTube video through Internet addresses. An agent’s affidavit says the <span style='font-size: 14pt'>threats included anti-Semitic remarks and threats of physical violence against Mr. Cantor, his wife and children.</span>

Now, did you jump the gun just a bit on this one????????

Steve

LWW
03-29-2010, 02:11 PM
Just because it's proven to be true doesn't mean it's proven to be true.

LWW

Sev
03-29-2010, 08:20 PM
Funny I never hear anybody denouncing antisemitism around here.

One has to wonder why?
One has to wonder if there are thoughts resident around here that the Jew boy and family deserve it.

Anybody wish to confirm or deny?

Perhaps we should have an anti-Semetic role call around here just so we all know where everybody stands on the matter hmmmmmm??

hondo
03-29-2010, 09:01 PM
I have known several Jewish families in Clarksburg.
The folks I knew were very intelligent, well read, charming, polite, nice folks, but a little tight. ( Just kidding about the tight part.)

I had a pretty good friend in high school, Norbert Weinberger, who was Jewish. Went to NYU and haven't heard from him since then.

My 5th grade teacher, Christine Weinberg, was beautiful and the nicest teacher I ever had.
I would have gladly converted to Judaism if a 23 year old beauty would have gone for a ten year old fat boy. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Perhaps the close knit attitude of Hasidic Jews turns some people off.
Just guessing. I don't really know any Hasidic Jews.

Qtec
03-29-2010, 09:17 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>LOL, still no comments???? </span> </span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif </div></div>

Seems you will now have to print a retraction and admit you were wrong...


Steve </div></div>

In your dreams maybe.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Leboon was arrested Saturday by the FBI, three days after his<span style='font-size: 17pt'> YouTube video</span> was seen by someone in San Francisco and reported to the FBI.

<u>Leboon's brother, Peter Leboon, said today his brother's behavior had become so erratic in recent months that he, too, had notified the FBI after Norman posted one anti-government YouTube rant.

"They dismissed it as no big deal," Peter Leboon said.</u>

Peter Leboon said he tried several times to have his brother committed to a mental institution, most recently before Christmas.

Leboon said his brother lived in Mayfair for six years and before that Lansdowne.

Peter Leboon was concerned because his brother, whom said began showing signs of mental instability three years ago, had a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

"The last time I tried to get him help we searched the whole house, six or seven of us, we couldn't find the gun," Peter Leboon said. "I found the permit, though, and destroyed it. Whatever happened to that gun, who knows?"

Christina Wilson, 28, a neighbor, said FBI agents took Leboon away in shackles on Saturday.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>That morning, Leboon was outside his house screaming at his neighbors.

"He was ranting and raving: <u>He was going to blow everybody up on the block,</u>" said Wilson, who lives two doors from Leboon.

"For the past two years, he's been off his rocker," Wilson said.

"I've called the cops plenty of times," she said.</span>

The police would take Leboon away, but never for more than a few hours, said James Hopkins, 39, the brother of Leboon's live-in partner, John.

"I've called the police for two years and the city of Philadelphia has done nothing," said Hopkins, who lives across the street.

"He was the nicest guy when he moved in with my brother," Hopkins said.

"He just turned into a giant loon," Hopkins said. </div></div>

link (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/89400167.html)

So this mentally ill man gets arrested for threatening Cantor on a youtube video but<span style='font-size: 20pt'> no charges for threatening to blow up a whole block? </span>

This still has nothing to do with the stray bullet that broke a window [ hit the blinds and fell on the floor ] of the offices below Cantor's office.

Q

ugotda7
03-29-2010, 09:30 PM
So did a bullet end up in his office or not?

Here's a news flash - a falling bullet can kill.

And I'm willing to wager that all of those s**t talking about it here would be crying like little girls if a bullet ended up in their house. So it's both funny yet stupid to see them trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

"Equivocation" - some here (you know who you are) need to look it up.

Qtec
03-29-2010, 09:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So did a bullet end up in his office or not?

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<span style='font-size: 23pt'>NO.</span>

Q

Qtec
03-29-2010, 09:39 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LEBOON stated that he had created the above-described
video approximately three days before and submitted it to YouTube via the internet for posting. LEBOON created the video at his residence using the video camera on his cellular telephone. LEBOON then used his home computer to upload the video to YouTube. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>LEBOON stated he had made over 2,000 videos in which he made threats.</span>
(c)<span style='font-size: 20pt'> LEBOON further stated that he is the “son of the god of
Enoch”</span> and that his father speaks through him. LEBOON stated that Eric Cantor is “pure evil”; will be dead; and that Cantor’s family is suffering because of his father’s
wrath. </div></div>

Q

Qtec
03-29-2010, 09:46 PM
OMG. He is threatening Obama and Pelosi among others. Why wasn't he arrested for that?

Watch the video.

link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdOfwx6I3kQ&feature=player_embedded#)

Q

Qtec
03-29-2010, 09:50 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems you will now have to print a retraction and admit you were wrong... </div></div>

Q

ugotda7
03-30-2010, 01:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So did a bullet end up in his office or not?

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<span style='font-size: 23pt'>NO.</span>

Q </div></div>


From the OP's first post:

"The round landed on the floor of the office a foot inside a broken window pane."

LWW
03-30-2010, 02:28 AM
Shhhh.

You know that reality riles them.

LWW

pooltchr
03-30-2010, 08:12 AM
I find it somewhat mind boggling that, even in the face of solid evidence to the contrary, someone can still try to blow it off as no big deal.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Earth to Q...Charges have been filed!</span>

Steve

LWW
03-30-2010, 08:15 AM
Q's argument boils down to the idea that just because the guy is a lunatic with a long history of making threats of murder and violence is no reason to assume that he's a lunatic who would ever make threats of murder and violence.

LWW

Gayle in MD
03-30-2010, 12:17 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems you will now have to print a retraction and admit you were wrong... </div></div>

Q </div></div>

More RW delusions of granduer....they imagine they have proven someone wrong, brag about it, demand apologies, and still don't grasp the issue being addressed.

We have never seen Democrtic Senators or Congresspersons cheering, waving flags of revolution at unruley, insulting, spitting, racist slur spewing, homosexual slur spewing demonstrators.

The Republican Party, their pundits, Glen, Beck, Hannity, O'reilly, their representatives, Boehner, Palin, McCain, Pence, Wilson, the list goes on and one, have cheered and egged this dangerous right wing radical group of thugs on since before the election.

We've all watched it, and in true Rovarian form, they are now trying to balme this outrageous behavior, on Democratics.

Won't fly with the upwardly mobile, well educated centrists, who will see right through it.

Fear, Lies, hate and division, the definition of Republican behavior and strategy. It on'wt work. Most people in this country are normal.
G.

pooltchr
03-30-2010, 12:43 PM
Is it that hard for you to admit that you were wrong???

Steve

LWW
03-30-2010, 02:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We have never seen Democrtic Senators or Congresspersons cheering, waving flags of revolution at unruley, insulting, spitting, racist slur spewing, homosexual slur spewing demonstrators.

G. </div></div>

&gt;&gt;&gt;THAT WAS FUNNY&lt;&lt;&lt; (http://billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=302101#Post302101)

LWW

eg8r
03-30-2010, 07:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">More RW delusions of granduer....they imagine they have proven someone wrong, brag about it, demand apologies, and still don't grasp the issue being addressed.

We have never seen Democrtic Senators or Congresspersons cheering, waving flags of revolution at unruley, insulting, spitting, racist slur spewing, homosexual slur spewing demonstrators.</div></div>Why are you changing the subject. The issue is whether he was lying when he said someone shot a bullet at his building? Not at all to do with the bs you just tried to float. Keep with the subject. Steve gave a quote that is in contrast to your quote.

eg8r

Qtec
03-30-2010, 11:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[/quote]Why are you changing the subject. The issue is whether he was lying when he said someone shot a bullet at his building?
eg8r </div></div>

Rubbish. Here is what he said,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">House Republican Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said today a bullet was shot through the window of <span style='font-size: 20pt'>his campaign office</span> in Richmond, Va. this week, </div></div>

As I pointed out,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In a news release, Richmond police said that the bullet had been fired into the air early Tuesday. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>It hit the front window <u>of a building</u> that houses Cantor's campaign office</span> as it fell to back earth at a sharp angle. </div></div>

No bullet was shot at Cantor's office.

Q

Qtec
03-31-2010, 12:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I find it somewhat mind boggling that, even in the face of solid evidence to the contrary, someone can still try to blow it off as no big deal.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Earth to Q...Charges have been filed!</span>

Steve </div></div>

Solid evidence of what?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><u>Just about all the reported incidents have targeted Democratic members</u> in the wake of their support for health care reform, but Cantor today blasted Democrats -- calling out two party leaders in particular -- for "ratcheting up the rhetoric" surrounding the dangerous threats and blaming Republicans for inciting the hostility.

"I've received threats since I assumed elected office, not only because of my position but also because I'm Jewish," Cantor said. "Any suggestion that a leader in this body would incite threats... is akin to saying I would endanger myself, my wife or my children." </div></div>

Its really a waste of time me explaining to you and UgotNobrain why this is all BS, but here goes.
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>This is a feeble attempt from Cantor and the GOP to distance themselves from the hate they have encouraged.</span>
The rhetoric on HCR they used was well over the top and at best misleading. They refused to condemn the hate speech from Rush L and G Beck. Now that Dems are being threatened because the HC bill has passed, they refuse to take responsibility for their actions and for scaring some of the population that the end of America is nigh.

"Look out Grandma and Vets, Obama has got you in his crosshairs and is reloading."

IMO this poor lunatic is being used to help Cantor save face. Look at the FACTS.
In the vid I posted, he threatened the POTUS and Pelosi.
On the DAY he was arrested he was in the street shouting to everyone that he was going to blow up the whole block!
He gets arrested and the charge is.....?.........making some vague threat against Cantor on one of 2,000 vids he posted on youtube!!!!????

For the record.....NO BULLET was fired at or entered Cantor's office.

Q

LWW
03-31-2010, 04:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[For the record.....NO BULLET was fired at or entered Cantor's office.

Q
</div></div>

Here's how the left makes this case.

The bullet entered through the 1st floor window of his office ... more than 1 room and more than 1 floor, which is a separate issue ... but since Cantor's PERSONAL office is on another floor it can be claimed that it didn't enter HIS office, although it entered his offices.

Give it up Q ... ya got nothin.

LWW

Gayle in MD
03-31-2010, 05:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">More RW delusions of granduer....they imagine they have proven someone wrong, brag about it, demand apologies, and still don't grasp the issue being addressed.

We have never seen Democrtic Senators or Congresspersons cheering, waving flags of revolution at unruley, insulting, spitting, racist slur spewing, homosexual slur spewing demonstrators.</div></div>Why are you changing the subject. The issue is whether he was lying when he said someone shot a bullet at his building? Not at all to do with the bs you just tried to float. Keep with the subject. Steve gave a quote that is in contrast to your quote.

eg8r </div></div>



<span style="color: #000066"> </span> <span style='font-size: 26pt'>YES HE WAS LYING! </span>


<span style='font-size: 26pt'>In a news release, Richmond police said that the bullet had been fired into the air early Tuesday. It hit the front window of a building that houses Cantor's campaign office as it fell to back earth at a sharp angle.
</span>

Sev
03-31-2010, 06:20 AM
And what about the anti-Semetic threats by the left.
I guess they dont count for anything?

I dont here you speaking out against that sort of rhetoric.

It seems odd to me that a bullet finds it way into one of the offices of one of the few Jews serving in congress.
I guess if it was Lieberman then it would be a slightly different matter.

Oh and just for your information it is possible to hit a target by firing a projectile at a high angle. Sometimes it is necessary.
However the distance the distance can be far enough that the projectile looses most of its kinetic energy prior to reaching the target.

hondo
03-31-2010, 06:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I guess if it was Lieberman then it would be a slightly different matter.

</div></div>

I don't get it.

Do Left wing Jews practice a different form of Judaism than Right wing Jews?

Are you saying liberal Jews are safer from attack than conservative Jews?

Would a liberal Jew be safe from the wrath of the angry Tea Party mob?

Please clarify your statements. Thanks.

Sev
03-31-2010, 06:53 AM
Lieberman was a democrat. And for the most part still is.

eg8r
03-31-2010, 07:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">YES HE WAS LYING!


In a news release, Richmond police said that the bullet had been fired into the air early Tuesday. It hit the front window of a building that houses Cantor's campaign office as it fell to back earth at a sharp angle.</div></div>LOL, if you shout does that make you believe it more? How about inmates on death row that were wrongfully accused? Did the cops get those instances right? Nope, and thank goodness we found out soon enough to save their lives. Did it ever occur to you that the cops might be wrong in this instance also? Again, the only proof that you have is that the bullet was not shot in a straight line at the building, but you have zero facts as to whether or not it was intentional.

eg8r

Qtec
03-31-2010, 07:32 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And what about the anti-Semetic threats by the left. </div></div>

How do you know these threats were made by the Left?

Q

Sev
03-31-2010, 07:42 AM
How do we know they are not??

Whats more likely.

The left threatening Kantor for his stance against the bill. Or supporters of the bill threatening him.

Though I will concede that there are most likely trouble makers on both sides that might call their own and instigate for the sake of sensationalism.

Qtec
03-31-2010, 07:52 AM
link (http://maps.google.nl/maps?hl=nl&tab=wl)

Its a built up area. If the bullet was fired from a long distance, and it was, there is no way anyone was aiming for Cantor's office because it was never in sight...and even if they were, it was a shot in a million.

BTW, the police are treating this as vandalism, not attempted murder.
Q

LWW
03-31-2010, 08:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the bullet was fired from a long distance, and it was

Q </div></div>

What evidence of this do you have?

What's that?

None?

I already knew that.

LWW

LWW
03-31-2010, 08:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there is no way anyone was aiming for Cantor's office

Q </div></div>

What evidence of this do you have?

What's that?

None?

I already knew that.

LWW

LWW
03-31-2010, 08:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">because it was never in sight...

Q </div></div>
What evidence of this do you have?

What's that?

None?

I already knew that.

LWW

LWW
03-31-2010, 08:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BTW, the police are treating this as vandalism, not attempted murder.
Q </div></div>

Who ever said it was attempted murder?


What evidence do you have that anyone did?

What's that?

None?

I already knew that.

LWW

Qtec
03-31-2010, 08:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What evidence of this do you have? </div></div>

I thought you were the expert on guns and ammo?

TRAJECTORY...DUH.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In a news release, Richmond police said that <span style='font-size: 20pt'>the bullet had been fired into the air</span> early Tuesday. It hit the front window of a building that houses Cantor's campaign office <span style='font-size: 20pt'>as it fell to back earth at a sharp angle.</span>

The round <span style='font-size: 20pt'>landed on the floor</span> of the office a foot inside a broken window pane. </div></div>

Q

Gayle in MD
03-31-2010, 11:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What evidence of this do you have? </div></div>

I thought you were the expert on guns and ammo?

TRAJECTORY...DUH.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In a news release, Richmond police said that <span style='font-size: 20pt'>the bullet had been fired into the air</span> early Tuesday. It hit the front window of a building that houses Cantor's campaign office <span style='font-size: 20pt'>as it fell to back earth at a sharp angle.</span>

The round <span style='font-size: 20pt'>landed on the floor</span> of the office a foot inside a broken window pane. </div></div>

Q </div></div>

The word "Evidence" means nothing to the right....just as the word Scientific, means nothing, but they don't have any trouble believing in virgin birth, people walking on water, and men living inside of whales. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Ho hum....

LWW
03-31-2010, 01:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What evidence of this do you have? </div></div>

I thought you were the expert on guns and ammo?

TRAJECTORY...DUH.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In a news release, Richmond police said that <span style='font-size: 20pt'>the bullet had been fired into the air</span> early Tuesday. It hit the front window of a building that houses Cantor's campaign office <span style='font-size: 20pt'>as it fell to back earth at a sharp angle.</span>

The round <span style='font-size: 20pt'>landed on the floor</span> of the office a foot inside a broken window pane. </div></div>

Q </div></div>Which would indicate a very steep angle of descent, which in turn indicates a very high angle of ascent ... which in combination indicates a very close distance between shooter and building.

Had it been fired on a flatter trajectory and only made it 1 foot inside the building it wouldn't have enough velocity to break through the glass.

With enough velocity to break through the glass, assuming a reasonably flat trajectory, it would have went much further into the building ... possibly through a drywall interior wall. It's basic ballistics.

If you have to void the laws of physics to make your point work, it's best to stop arguing the point.

LWW

eg8r
03-31-2010, 01:37 PM
Thanks for offering opinion.

eg8r