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Gayle in MD
03-27-2010, 10:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On the heels of health care, a new Harris poll reveals Republican attitudes about Obama: Two-thirds think he's a socialist, 57 percent a Muslim—and 24 percent say "he may be the Antichrist."

To anyone who thinks the end of the health-care vote means a return to civility, wake up.

Obama Derangement Syndrome—pathological hatred of the president posing as patriotism—has infected the Republican Party. Here's new data to prove it:

•67 percent of Republicans (and 40 percent of Americans overall) believe that Obama is a socialist.
The belief that Obama is a “domestic enemy” is widely held—a sign of trouble yet to come.
•57 percent of Republicans (32 percent overall) believe that Obama is a Muslim
•45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers in their belief that Obama was "not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president"
•38 percent of Republicans (20 percent overall) say that Obama is "doing many of the things that Hitler did"
•Scariest of all, 24 percent of Republicans (14 percent overall) say that Obama "may be the Antichrist."

These numbers all come from a brand-new Harris poll, inspired in part by my new book Wingnuts. It demonstrates the cost of the campaign of fear and hate that has been pumped up in the service of hyper-partisanship over the past 15 months. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>We are playing with dynamite by demonizing our president and dividing the United States in the process. What might be good for ratings is bad for the country.</span>

• Michelle Goldberg: What the Polls Really Show:

The poll, which surveyed 2,230 people right at the height of the health-care reform debate, also clearly shows <span style='font-size: 20pt'>that education is a barrier to extremism. Respondents without a college education are vastly more likely to believe such claims, while Americans with college degrees or better are less easily duped. It's a reminder of what the 19th-century educator Horace Mann once too-loftily said: <span style='font-size: 20pt'>"Ignorance breeds monsters to fill up the vacancies of the soul that are unoccupied by the verities of knowledge."</span></span>

The full results of the poll, which will be released in greater detail tomorrow, are even more frightening: including news that high percentages of Republicans—and Americans overall—believe that President Obama is "racist," "anti-American" "wants the terrorists to win" and "wants to turn over the sovereignty of the United States to a one-world government." The "Hatriot" belief that Obama is a "domestic enemy" as set forth in the Constitution is also widely held—a sign of trouble yet to come. It's the same claim made by Marine Lance Corporal Kody Brittingham in his letter of intent to assassinate the President Obama.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>This poll is the latest and most detailed evidence of the extent to which Wingnuts are hijacking our politics. It should be a wakeup call to all Americans and a collective reminder, as we move past health-care reform, that we need to stand up to extremism.</span>

John Avlon's new book Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe is Hijacking America is available now by Beast Books both on the Web and in paperback. He is also the author of Independent Nation: How Centrists Can Change American Politics. Previously, he served as chief speechwriter for New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and was a columnist and associate editor for The New York Sun.


Gayle in MD
03-27-2010, 10:19 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Biggest Republican Lie
by Michelle Goldberg

Info RSS Michelle Goldberg is the author of The Means of Reproduction: Sex, Power and the Future of the World and Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism. She is a senior correspondent for The American Prospect, and her work has appeared in The New Republic, The Nation, the Los Angeles Times, Glamour, and many other publications.
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Haraz N. Ghanbari / AP Photo GOP leaders claim most Americans are outraged over the health-care bill. They're wrong. Michelle Goldberg on what the polls really show—and the right's fuzzy math.

Among the mass of delusions that constitute the worldview of the Republican Party, one has recently come to the fore. They are convinced that they speak for a majority, that they are the voice of “the American people,” and that the government has been hijacked by a subversive fringe. Thus health-care reform, enacted by both houses of Congress, signed by a president who won a decisive victory in the last election, becomes a shocking affront to democracy.

“For most of the 20th century people fled the ghosts of communist dictators,” intoned California Rep. Devin Nunes during the House debate on Sunday night. “And now you are bringing the ghosts back into this chamber.” House Minority Leader John Boehner, looking like he was on the verge of Glenn Beck-style sobs, said, “Today we stand here amidst the wreckage of what was once the respect and honor that this House was held in by our fellow citizens… We have failed to listen to America.”

Republicans have long seen themselves as synonymous with America, and everyone else as deviant and marginal.

• John Avlon: Scary New GOP Poll

• Paul Campos: Republicans Are Health-Care Hypocrites On Monday, Beck himself, issuing the latest of his warnings of impending tyranny, told his Fox audience that “the overwhelming majority in America” opposed the bill. Even the average Democrat, he insisted, was appalled. “Because the average Democrat is not the California hippie, Marxist, socialist, communist, progressive sticking flowers in the barrel, sitting around smoking dope all day during college and talking about how they can destroy the evil American empire. That's not what the average Democrat was doing or the average American. But that is what a lot of people in our government were doing in the 1960s. And I bet—what time it is now? A lot of them are still doing it.”

Health care, in other words, passed in spite of the ardent wishes of real Americans.

This is a lie, though like most effective lies, it has a grain of truth in it. Surveys taken before health care was passed showed bare majority—one within the margin of error—against the health-care reform plan. According to a Gallup poll from March 9, 45 percent of respondents wanted their representatives to vote for the bill and 48 percent to vote against it. Seven percent had no opinion. Some small slice of that 48 percent almost certainly opposed the plan from the left, and others doubtlessly opposed it on the basis of misinformation about what it contains; after all, the bill’s individual components consistently polled well. Meanwhile, the American public is already becoming more positive about health care reform: in the latest Gallup poll, half of respondents were enthusiastic or pleased that it passed, while 42% were angry or disappointed.

But even if we accept the earlier polls at face value, American democracy is not run by the ever-shifting results of telephone opinion surveys. Republicans should know this, since they heaped scorn on Bill Clinton for governing according to his poll numbers. The polls that count are elections, and even Scott Brown’s victory in the special Senate election in Massachusetts does not overturn the results of the national vote in 2008.

At the same time, even if the polls have demonstrated wariness with health-care reform, they hardly represented a groundswell of support for the party of Beck. A CBS News survey released yesterday showed immense cynicism about Democratic motives: Only 35 percent of respondents thought Democrats were driven by concern for policy over politics in pushing health care through. But only 29 percent thought the GOP was acting in good faith in opposing it. The same poll showed that while only 32 percent approved of congressional Democrats’ handling of health care, Republican numbers were even worse at 25 percent.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>This isn’t really a debate about numbers, though. Republicans have long seen themselves as synonymous with America, and everyone else as deviant and marginal. This article of faith is impervious to evidence. Surveys show that a majority of Republicans believe that Obama stole the election with Acorn’s help, a conviction that allows them to deny a political reality they find intolerable. More subtly, conservatives have long derided the Democratic Party’s “dependence” on minority voters, as if these voters are somehow less valid. The GOP’s belief in their right to rule has an unmistakable racial aspect; hence the racial slurs hurled against black congressmen last week, and the right’s repeated comparisons of health-care reform to slavery. This is, in part, white men reacting in furious disbelief that they can no longer rule as a majority, because they aren’t one.</span>Since Nixon, the idea that Republicans constitute a silent majority of decent people—all recoiling from the noisy demands of anti-war protesters, black militants, and radical feminists—has been fundamental to Republican identity. But the entire notion of a silent majority was meant to counter the idea that the loudest, most provocative protesters are most expressive of America at large. The Tea Partiers, goading each other into ever more febrile ecstasies of outrage, might have the happy illusion that they represent a genuine uprising of The People. The '60s protesters who gave rise to Nixon’s backlash felt exactly the same way.

03-27-2010, 11:09 AM


03-27-2010, 11:17 AM
From Gayle's poll ... you really should read this stuff dearie ... we learn the following:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The big surprise here–the group of voters most likely to think Obama is the Anti-Christ are … Hispanics, who solidly backed Obama in 2008. </div></div>

So we are only left to conclude that a large group of Obama voters have awoke from their hypnotic trance while a large number ... but ever shrinking ... remain full fledged O-cultists.

&gt;&gt;&gt;HOIST BY THINE OWN PETARD ... AGAIN&lt;&lt;&lt; (http://washingtonindependent.com/59514/poll-one-in-three-new-jersey-conservatives-think-obama-might-be-the-anti-christ)


03-27-2010, 02:52 PM
An opinion piece from the daily beast...and we are supposed to accept it as fact!

I guess they think that because they get their daily spoon feeding that everyone should!



03-28-2010, 04:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">An opinion piece from the daily beast...and we are supposed to accept it as fact!


Steve </div></div>

Only when dearest leader says we are to accept it as fact.