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hondo
04-12-2010, 09:26 PM
On a positive note, one of the clan simply repeats the same post over and over again, sparing us of his usual venom.
Yugo, fella!

Meanwhile, the entire clan assures us that Jesus is just alright with them and that the 2 or 3 libs remaining on this board are headed to Hell in a handbasket.
However the "retired engineer" assures us that despite the fact that all libs are lying atheists, Jesus does indeed love us
dirtbags.

Nothing new here, folks. Just a comment on the state of the forum.

Y'all have a great evening, hear?

ugotda7
04-12-2010, 10:35 PM
A Liberal Guide to Debating Conservatives
Mar 31, 2010 Author Scot Cerullo

Liberals have long since learned that debating Conservatives can be a challenging endeavor, since Conservatives have a penchant for fortifying their arguments with facts, statistics, history and other elements that create convincing and thoughtful arguments.

Not to worry. The following are several tips Liberals can use right away to begin defeating Conservatives in every debate, every time.

Lib Tip # 1: Drop the Race Card: The moment your Conservative opponent begins crafting a cogent, air-tight argument buttressed in fact, drop the race card. This technique is designed to stifle further discussion, impugns your opponent and puts him on the defensive. Often, this is enough of a distraction to direct attention away from your lack of qualitative, quantitative evidence.

Lib Tip # 2: Impugn the Source: When debating a Conservative, content is less important than character. When your Conservative opponent states a compelling argument, do not address the argument and instead attack the Conservative personally. Since we are all sinners, it shouldn’t take long to find something wrong with your opponent. Use it.

Lib Tip # 3: Social Justice Trumps Logic: Argue every issue from a “Social Justice” or “Moral” high-ground. The Conservative will attempt to show that your ideas are unworkable, unsustainable or downright illogical. Don’t worry about any of that. Just stay on message by arguing from the moral, social justice perspective.

Lib Tip # 4: Exploit the Weakest Link: Define your opponent by his weakest link. If 10,000 Tea Partiers hold a rally, and one guy has a placard that is inappropriate, that is all you need to characterize the entire group as radical, racist militants. See how that works? It’s simple and fun and, most importantly, deflects all those awkward facts and articulate points away from the discussion and leaves the Conservative in a defensive mode.

Lib Tip # 5: Use “New Speak”: If health care is not a right according to the Constitution, and you want it to be a right, claim it is and then raise your voice. Raising your voice is always the best course of action in lieu of a good argument. Redefine words to suit your needs, and always be on guard for any stray, powerful fact or statistic the Conservative may use to support their position.

Lib Tip # 6: State the Opposite of what you believe: If you are in favor of taking money from producers and giving it to non-producers, that’s fine, but make sure your wording is a bit more obtuse than that. Try saying you are in favor of moral and social justice, and characterize everyone who earns a good living as somehow having won the lottery in life, and all those who want as being desperately hard-working folks who have an almost allergic reaction to hand-outs. Never imply or point out in any way that people can change their situation simply by making better decisions.

Lib Tip # 7: Define America by it’s Errors, not its Successes: Taking a cue from Lib Tip # 4, it is important to characterize America by it’s errors in judgement and misdeeds. It is critical that you completely overlook the good things America has done, and the manner in which it has beaten back one dictatorship after another. In fact, you must go to some lengths to divert people from the notion that without America, the world would be a far more dangerous, hostile, sad place. So talk about Indians and Slaves.

Lib Tip # 8: Blame talk radio and FOX news for fanning hate and racism: Avoid at all costs the fact that both talk radio and FOX news stand in defiant refutation of an otherwise fully agreeable media that presents only one template, a liberal template. Also, attempt to divert attention should someone ask why Conservative Talk Radio and FOX news is growing exponentially, while traditional, liberal media is closing offices, thinning their employees and running deficits like, you know, the government.

Lib Tip # 9: Government is Good: Insist that a massive expansion of government is a good thing. Assert that it is our patriotic duty to pay ever more in taxes so that a centralized government comprised of east and west coast Liberal elites can decide what is best for the unwashed masses, since it would be sheer lunacy to allow individuals the right to make decisions for themselves. If you run into problems, see Tips 1-8.

Lib Tip # 10: Assign Blame away from Yourself: Always assign blame to the other guy, preferably a Conservative. This may require rewriting history so that people may one day believe that Reagan did NOT usher in 25 years of prosperity, or it may require still more retooling of the content of public school text books. But over time we’ll get there.

Remember: The ends justify the means. No matter how cruel and violating the means may be, if it results in a mediocre society where all citizens ultimately suck off the the government for their most meager needs, it will all be worthwhile.

There is of course the small matter of where all the money for all these programs will come from. Right now, they come from spirited entrepreneurs, dreamers with drive and other people whose passion poses a direct threat to the new world we want to usher in.

But first things first. Learn the ten tips to squelch free speech, hurt your opponent with the intellectual equivelant of a kick to the groin and avoid facts, statistics and studies altogether, as those will get you in trouble.

Good luck Liberals! Battle on and remember what Dennis Prager said: The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. Oh wait, no. You don’t want to remember that. My bad. Here, try this: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. Yeah, that’s the one. Whew!

Stretch
04-13-2010, 01:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On a positive note, one of the clan simply repeats the same post over and over again, sparing us of his usual venom.
Yugo, fella!

Meanwhile, the entire clan assures us that Jesus is just alright with them and that the 2 or 3 libs remaining on this board are headed to Hell in a handbasket.
However the "retired engineer" assures us that despite the fact that all libs are lying atheists, Jesus does indeed love us
dirtbags.

Nothing new here, folks. Just a comment on the state of the forum.

Y'all have a great evening, hear? </div></div>

Hondo, ya since the AZ clan went viral on us we've pretty much been assimilated into the azb republican meeting house. Presided over by miss Larry who naturaly has to out post virtually everyone by at least 5 to 1 on every single thread. Since his cluster bombing campaign began i've noticed the regulars have started disappearing and any new members......well little chance of that given the general mood of the place. Hey maybe i'll just start hanging around azb. There's no difference now anyways eh? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif St.

cushioncrawler
04-13-2010, 01:24 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....However the "retired engineer" assures us that despite the fact that all libs are lying atheists, Jesus does indeed love us......</div></div>H -- Me iz a retired-engineer. But me iz allso a fascist-atheist-greeny -- u kood say me iz a FAG.
madMac.

hondo
04-13-2010, 04:53 AM
LOL! Enjoy.

Since they've had control so long, they're not quite as veral over there as they are here.

Other than yugo and slide rule (under) who are what they are.

You'll find Fearless Leader(dud) a little less hateful over there.

hondo
04-13-2010, 04:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....However the "retired engineer" assures us that despite the fact that all libs are lying atheists, Jesus does indeed love us......</div></div>H -- Me iz a retired-engineer. But me iz allso a fascist-atheist-greeny -- u kood say me iz a FAG.
madMac.
</div></div>

Yes, friend, but you actually are a retired engineer.
johnny simply poses as one.
Probably has a choo choo train in his basement and a little cap.

ugotda7
04-13-2010, 05:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL! Enjoy.

Since they've had control so long, they're not quite as veral over there as they are here.

Other than yugo and slide rule (under) who are what they are.

You'll find Fearless Leader(dud) a little less hateful over there. </div></div>


A Liberal Guide to Debating Conservatives
Mar 31, 2010 Author Scot Cerullo

Liberals have long since learned that debating Conservatives can be a challenging endeavor, since Conservatives have a penchant for fortifying their arguments with facts, statistics, history and other elements that create convincing and thoughtful arguments.

Not to worry. The following are several tips Liberals can use right away to begin defeating Conservatives in every debate, every time.

Lib Tip # 1: Drop the Race Card: The moment your Conservative opponent begins crafting a cogent, air-tight argument buttressed in fact, drop the race card. This technique is designed to stifle further discussion, impugns your opponent and puts him on the defensive. Often, this is enough of a distraction to direct attention away from your lack of qualitative, quantitative evidence.

Lib Tip # 2: Impugn the Source: When debating a Conservative, content is less important than character. When your Conservative opponent states a compelling argument, do not address the argument and instead attack the Conservative personally. Since we are all sinners, it shouldn’t take long to find something wrong with your opponent. Use it.

Lib Tip # 3: Social Justice Trumps Logic: Argue every issue from a “Social Justice” or “Moral” high-ground. The Conservative will attempt to show that your ideas are unworkable, unsustainable or downright illogical. Don’t worry about any of that. Just stay on message by arguing from the moral, social justice perspective.

Lib Tip # 4: Exploit the Weakest Link: Define your opponent by his weakest link. If 10,000 Tea Partiers hold a rally, and one guy has a placard that is inappropriate, that is all you need to characterize the entire group as radical, racist militants. See how that works? It’s simple and fun and, most importantly, deflects all those awkward facts and articulate points away from the discussion and leaves the Conservative in a defensive mode.

Lib Tip # 5: Use “New Speak”: If health care is not a right according to the Constitution, and you want it to be a right, claim it is and then raise your voice. Raising your voice is always the best course of action in lieu of a good argument. Redefine words to suit your needs, and always be on guard for any stray, powerful fact or statistic the Conservative may use to support their position.

Lib Tip # 6: State the Opposite of what you believe: If you are in favor of taking money from producers and giving it to non-producers, that’s fine, but make sure your wording is a bit more obtuse than that. Try saying you are in favor of moral and social justice, and characterize everyone who earns a good living as somehow having won the lottery in life, and all those who want as being desperately hard-working folks who have an almost allergic reaction to hand-outs. Never imply or point out in any way that people can change their situation simply by making better decisions.

Lib Tip # 7: Define America by it’s Errors, not its Successes: Taking a cue from Lib Tip # 4, it is important to characterize America by it’s errors in judgement and misdeeds. It is critical that you completely overlook the good things America has done, and the manner in which it has beaten back one dictatorship after another. In fact, you must go to some lengths to divert people from the notion that without America, the world would be a far more dangerous, hostile, sad place. So talk about Indians and Slaves.

Lib Tip # 8: Blame talk radio and FOX news for fanning hate and racism: Avoid at all costs the fact that both talk radio and FOX news stand in defiant refutation of an otherwise fully agreeable media that presents only one template, a liberal template. Also, attempt to divert attention should someone ask why Conservative Talk Radio and FOX news is growing exponentially, while traditional, liberal media is closing offices, thinning their employees and running deficits like, you know, the government.

Lib Tip # 9: Government is Good: Insist that a massive expansion of government is a good thing. Assert that it is our patriotic duty to pay ever more in taxes so that a centralized government comprised of east and west coast Liberal elites can decide what is best for the unwashed masses, since it would be sheer lunacy to allow individuals the right to make decisions for themselves. If you run into problems, see Tips 1-8.

Lib Tip # 10: Assign Blame away from Yourself: Always assign blame to the other guy, preferably a Conservative. This may require rewriting history so that people may one day believe that Reagan did NOT usher in 25 years of prosperity, or it may require still more retooling of the content of public school text books. But over time we’ll get there.

Remember: The ends justify the means. No matter how cruel and violating the means may be, if it results in a mediocre society where all citizens ultimately suck off the the government for their most meager needs, it will all be worthwhile.

There is of course the small matter of where all the money for all these programs will come from. Right now, they come from spirited entrepreneurs, dreamers with drive and other people whose passion poses a direct threat to the new world we want to usher in.

But first things first. Learn the ten tips to squelch free speech, hurt your opponent with the intellectual equivelant of a kick to the groin and avoid facts, statistics and studies altogether, as those will get you in trouble.

Good luck Liberals! Battle on and remember what Dennis Prager said: The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. Oh wait, no. You don’t want to remember that. My bad. Here, try this: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. Yeah, that’s the one. Whew!

Qtec
04-13-2010, 06:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lib Tip # 1: Drop the Race Card: The moment your Conservative opponent begins crafting a cogent, air-tight argument buttressed in fact, drop the race card. This technique is designed to stifle further discussion, impugns your opponent and puts him on the defensive. Often, this is enough of a distraction to direct attention away from your lack of qualitative, quantitative evidence.
</div></div>

Give one example.

Q..........MMmmmmmm................what's that smell?.........I know....its fried brain ..........OVERLOAD.......call the fire Brigade somebody.

Isn't it bedtime for you yet? LOL

Sev
04-13-2010, 06:56 AM
The race card was dropped the other day when someone commented on Obama's basketball skills vs his attention to jobs creation.

The segment was on O'Reily last night.

LWW
04-13-2010, 07:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On a positive note, one of the clan simply repeats the same post over and over again, sparing us of his usual venom.
Yugo, fella!

Meanwhile, the entire clan assures us that Jesus is just alright with them and that the 2 or 3 libs remaining on this board are headed to Hell in a handbasket.
However the "retired engineer" assures us that despite the fact that all libs are lying atheists, Jesus does indeed love us
dirtbags.

Nothing new here, folks. Just a comment on the state of the forum.

Y'all have a great evening, hear? </div></div>

Thank you for finally confirming that gross abuse of power is simply fine by you.

Don't miss the TWO MINUTE HATE brother.

LWW

Gayle in MD
04-13-2010, 08:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On a positive note, one of the clan simply repeats the same post over and over again, sparing us of his usual venom.
Yugo, fella!

Meanwhile, the entire clan assures us that Jesus is just alright with them and that the 2 or 3 libs remaining on this board are headed to Hell in a handbasket.
However the "retired engineer" assures us that despite the fact that all libs are lying atheists, Jesus does indeed love us
dirtbags.

Nothing new here, folks. Just a comment on the state of the forum.

Y'all have a great evening, hear? </div></div>

This site has been totally trashed by a bunch of irrational, immature egomaniacs.

But what else can be expected from the Wingnuts who compose Republican Voters. We already knew they weren't playing with a full deck after years of their denials, and absurd disregard for facts.

G.

Gayle in MD
04-13-2010, 08:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lib Tip # 1: Drop the Race Card: The moment your Conservative opponent begins crafting a cogent, air-tight argument buttressed in fact, drop the race card. This technique is designed to stifle further discussion, impugns your opponent and puts him on the defensive. Often, this is enough of a distraction to direct attention away from your lack of qualitative, quantitative evidence.
</div></div>

Give one example.

Q..........MMmmmmmm................what's that smell?.........I know....its fried brain ..........OVERLOAD.......call the fire Brigade somebody.

Isn't it bedtime for you yet? LOL </div></div>

Pretty ridiculous considering that Steele just used the race card himself. Last time I checked, he was a Republican.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

pooltchr
04-13-2010, 08:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
This site has been totally trashed by a bunch of irrational, immature egomaniacs.

G.

</div></div>

To be completely fair, I don't think you are immature.

Steve

LWW
04-13-2010, 09:10 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lib Tip # 1: Drop the Race Card: The moment your Conservative opponent begins crafting a cogent, air-tight argument buttressed in fact, drop the race card. This technique is designed to stifle further discussion, impugns your opponent and puts him on the defensive. Often, this is enough of a distraction to direct attention away from your lack of qualitative, quantitative evidence.
</div></div>

Give one example.

Q.</div></div>

How about 3 within the last month:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">G, there are a certain amount of people who will never accept a black man as POTUS. This is a fact.

Q..... </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From the outside looking in, it seems to me that the Tea Party crap and all this negativity from the GOP etc can only be explained by the fact that they can't accept a black President.

Q </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that was of course before a black, Muslim, anti-American, non American, radical Fascist, Communist, Socialist, baby/Grandma killer tried to give all Americans the right to see a doctor.

Q </div></div>

Anything else I can help you with?

LWW

Sev
04-13-2010, 09:16 AM
To accuse anybody of being immature after the multiple personal attacks on people you dont agree with is a bit hypercritical to say the least.

ugotda7
04-13-2010, 09:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lib Tip # 1: Drop the Race Card: The moment your Conservative opponent begins crafting a cogent, air-tight argument buttressed in fact, drop the race card. This technique is designed to stifle further discussion, impugns your opponent and puts him on the defensive. Often, this is enough of a distraction to direct attention away from your lack of qualitative, quantitative evidence.
</div></div>

Give one example.

Q..........MMmmmmmm................what's that smell?.........I know....its fried brain ..........OVERLOAD.......call the fire Brigade somebody.

Isn't it bedtime for you yet? LOL </div></div>



A Liberal Guide to Debating Conservatives
Mar 31, 2010 Author Scot Cerullo

Liberals have long since learned that debating Conservatives can be a challenging endeavor, since Conservatives have a penchant for fortifying their arguments with facts, statistics, history and other elements that create convincing and thoughtful arguments.

Not to worry. The following are several tips Liberals can use right away to begin defeating Conservatives in every debate, every time.

Lib Tip # 1: Drop the Race Card: The moment your Conservative opponent begins crafting a cogent, air-tight argument buttressed in fact, drop the race card. This technique is designed to stifle further discussion, impugns your opponent and puts him on the defensive. Often, this is enough of a distraction to direct attention away from your lack of qualitative, quantitative evidence.

Lib Tip # 2: Impugn the Source: When debating a Conservative, content is less important than character. When your Conservative opponent states a compelling argument, do not address the argument and instead attack the Conservative personally. Since we are all sinners, it shouldn’t take long to find something wrong with your opponent. Use it.

Lib Tip # 3: Social Justice Trumps Logic: Argue every issue from a “Social Justice” or “Moral” high-ground. The Conservative will attempt to show that your ideas are unworkable, unsustainable or downright illogical. Don’t worry about any of that. Just stay on message by arguing from the moral, social justice perspective.

Lib Tip # 4: Exploit the Weakest Link: Define your opponent by his weakest link. If 10,000 Tea Partiers hold a rally, and one guy has a placard that is inappropriate, that is all you need to characterize the entire group as radical, racist militants. See how that works? It’s simple and fun and, most importantly, deflects all those awkward facts and articulate points away from the discussion and leaves the Conservative in a defensive mode.

Lib Tip # 5: Use “New Speak”: If health care is not a right according to the Constitution, and you want it to be a right, claim it is and then raise your voice. Raising your voice is always the best course of action in lieu of a good argument. Redefine words to suit your needs, and always be on guard for any stray, powerful fact or statistic the Conservative may use to support their position.

Lib Tip # 6: State the Opposite of what you believe: If you are in favor of taking money from producers and giving it to non-producers, that’s fine, but make sure your wording is a bit more obtuse than that. Try saying you are in favor of moral and social justice, and characterize everyone who earns a good living as somehow having won the lottery in life, and all those who want as being desperately hard-working folks who have an almost allergic reaction to hand-outs. Never imply or point out in any way that people can change their situation simply by making better decisions.

Lib Tip # 7: Define America by it’s Errors, not its Successes: Taking a cue from Lib Tip # 4, it is important to characterize America by it’s errors in judgement and misdeeds. It is critical that you completely overlook the good things America has done, and the manner in which it has beaten back one dictatorship after another. In fact, you must go to some lengths to divert people from the notion that without America, the world would be a far more dangerous, hostile, sad place. So talk about Indians and Slaves.

Lib Tip # 8: Blame talk radio and FOX news for fanning hate and racism: Avoid at all costs the fact that both talk radio and FOX news stand in defiant refutation of an otherwise fully agreeable media that presents only one template, a liberal template. Also, attempt to divert attention should someone ask why Conservative Talk Radio and FOX news is growing exponentially, while traditional, liberal media is closing offices, thinning their employees and running deficits like, you know, the government.

Lib Tip # 9: Government is Good: Insist that a massive expansion of government is a good thing. Assert that it is our patriotic duty to pay ever more in taxes so that a centralized government comprised of east and west coast Liberal elites can decide what is best for the unwashed masses, since it would be sheer lunacy to allow individuals the right to make decisions for themselves. If you run into problems, see Tips 1-8.

Lib Tip # 10: Assign Blame away from Yourself: Always assign blame to the other guy, preferably a Conservative. This may require rewriting history so that people may one day believe that Reagan did NOT usher in 25 years of prosperity, or it may require still more retooling of the content of public school text books. But over time we’ll get there.

Remember: The ends justify the means. No matter how cruel and violating the means may be, if it results in a mediocre society where all citizens ultimately suck off the the government for their most meager needs, it will all be worthwhile.

There is of course the small matter of where all the money for all these programs will come from. Right now, they come from spirited entrepreneurs, dreamers with drive and other people whose passion poses a direct threat to the new world we want to usher in.

But first things first. Learn the ten tips to squelch free speech, hurt your opponent with the intellectual equivelant of a kick to the groin and avoid facts, statistics and studies altogether, as those will get you in trouble.

Good luck Liberals! Battle on and remember what Dennis Prager said: The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. Oh wait, no. You don’t want to remember that. My bad. Here, try this: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. Yeah, that’s the one. Whew!

ugotda7
04-13-2010, 09:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On a positive note, one of the clan simply repeats the same post over and over again, sparing us of his usual venom.
Yugo, fella!

Meanwhile, the entire clan assures us that Jesus is just alright with them and that the 2 or 3 libs remaining on this board are headed to Hell in a handbasket.
However the "retired engineer" assures us that despite the fact that all libs are lying atheists, Jesus does indeed love us
dirtbags.

Nothing new here, folks. Just a comment on the state of the forum.

Y'all have a great evening, hear? </div></div>

This site has been totally trashed by a bunch of irrational, immature egomaniacs.

But what else can be expected from the Wingnuts who compose Republican Voters. We already knew they weren't playing with a full deck after years of their denials, and absurd disregard for facts.

G.

</div></div>



A Liberal Guide to Debating Conservatives
Mar 31, 2010 Author Scot Cerullo

Liberals have long since learned that debating Conservatives can be a challenging endeavor, since Conservatives have a penchant for fortifying their arguments with facts, statistics, history and other elements that create convincing and thoughtful arguments.

Not to worry. The following are several tips Liberals can use right away to begin defeating Conservatives in every debate, every time.

Lib Tip # 1: Drop the Race Card: The moment your Conservative opponent begins crafting a cogent, air-tight argument buttressed in fact, drop the race card. This technique is designed to stifle further discussion, impugns your opponent and puts him on the defensive. Often, this is enough of a distraction to direct attention away from your lack of qualitative, quantitative evidence.

Lib Tip # 2: Impugn the Source: When debating a Conservative, content is less important than character. When your Conservative opponent states a compelling argument, do not address the argument and instead attack the Conservative personally. Since we are all sinners, it shouldn’t take long to find something wrong with your opponent. Use it.

Lib Tip # 3: Social Justice Trumps Logic: Argue every issue from a “Social Justice” or “Moral” high-ground. The Conservative will attempt to show that your ideas are unworkable, unsustainable or downright illogical. Don’t worry about any of that. Just stay on message by arguing from the moral, social justice perspective.

Lib Tip # 4: Exploit the Weakest Link: Define your opponent by his weakest link. If 10,000 Tea Partiers hold a rally, and one guy has a placard that is inappropriate, that is all you need to characterize the entire group as radical, racist militants. See how that works? It’s simple and fun and, most importantly, deflects all those awkward facts and articulate points away from the discussion and leaves the Conservative in a defensive mode.

Lib Tip # 5: Use “New Speak”: If health care is not a right according to the Constitution, and you want it to be a right, claim it is and then raise your voice. Raising your voice is always the best course of action in lieu of a good argument. Redefine words to suit your needs, and always be on guard for any stray, powerful fact or statistic the Conservative may use to support their position.

Lib Tip # 6: State the Opposite of what you believe: If you are in favor of taking money from producers and giving it to non-producers, that’s fine, but make sure your wording is a bit more obtuse than that. Try saying you are in favor of moral and social justice, and characterize everyone who earns a good living as somehow having won the lottery in life, and all those who want as being desperately hard-working folks who have an almost allergic reaction to hand-outs. Never imply or point out in any way that people can change their situation simply by making better decisions.

Lib Tip # 7: Define America by it’s Errors, not its Successes: Taking a cue from Lib Tip # 4, it is important to characterize America by it’s errors in judgement and misdeeds. It is critical that you completely overlook the good things America has done, and the manner in which it has beaten back one dictatorship after another. In fact, you must go to some lengths to divert people from the notion that without America, the world would be a far more dangerous, hostile, sad place. So talk about Indians and Slaves.

Lib Tip # 8: Blame talk radio and FOX news for fanning hate and racism: Avoid at all costs the fact that both talk radio and FOX news stand in defiant refutation of an otherwise fully agreeable media that presents only one template, a liberal template. Also, attempt to divert attention should someone ask why Conservative Talk Radio and FOX news is growing exponentially, while traditional, liberal media is closing offices, thinning their employees and running deficits like, you know, the government.

Lib Tip # 9: Government is Good: Insist that a massive expansion of government is a good thing. Assert that it is our patriotic duty to pay ever more in taxes so that a centralized government comprised of east and west coast Liberal elites can decide what is best for the unwashed masses, since it would be sheer lunacy to allow individuals the right to make decisions for themselves. If you run into problems, see Tips 1-8.

Lib Tip # 10: Assign Blame away from Yourself: Always assign blame to the other guy, preferably a Conservative. This may require rewriting history so that people may one day believe that Reagan did NOT usher in 25 years of prosperity, or it may require still more retooling of the content of public school text books. But over time we’ll get there.

Remember: The ends justify the means. No matter how cruel and violating the means may be, if it results in a mediocre society where all citizens ultimately suck off the the government for their most meager needs, it will all be worthwhile.

There is of course the small matter of where all the money for all these programs will come from. Right now, they come from spirited entrepreneurs, dreamers with drive and other people whose passion poses a direct threat to the new world we want to usher in.

But first things first. Learn the ten tips to squelch free speech, hurt your opponent with the intellectual equivelant of a kick to the groin and avoid facts, statistics and studies altogether, as those will get you in trouble.

Good luck Liberals! Battle on and remember what Dennis Prager said: The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. Oh wait, no. You don’t want to remember that. My bad. Here, try this: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. Yeah, that’s the one. Whew!

ugotda7
04-13-2010, 09:24 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lib Tip # 1: Drop the Race Card: The moment your Conservative opponent begins crafting a cogent, air-tight argument buttressed in fact, drop the race card. This technique is designed to stifle further discussion, impugns your opponent and puts him on the defensive. Often, this is enough of a distraction to direct attention away from your lack of qualitative, quantitative evidence.
</div></div>

Give one example.

Q.</div></div>

How about 3 within the last month:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">G, there are a certain amount of people who will never accept a black man as POTUS. This is a fact.

Q..... </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From the outside looking in, it seems to me that the Tea Party crap and all this negativity from the GOP etc can only be explained by the fact that they can't accept a black President.

Q </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that was of course before a black, Muslim, anti-American, non American, radical Fascist, Communist, Socialist, baby/Grandma killer tried to give all Americans the right to see a doctor.

Q </div></div>

Anything else I can help you with?

LWW </div></div>


Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark.

Gayle in MD
04-13-2010, 11:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On a positive note, one of the clan simply repeats the same post over and over again, sparing us of his usual venom.
Yugo, fella!

Meanwhile, the entire clan assures us that Jesus is just alright with them and that the 2 or 3 libs remaining on this board are headed to Hell in a handbasket.
However the "retired engineer" assures us that despite the fact that all libs are lying atheists, Jesus does indeed love us
dirtbags.

Nothing new here, folks. Just a comment on the state of the forum.

Y'all have a great evening, hear? </div></div>

Just reading the vast number of absurd post titles is proof of the Idiot in Chief around here.

eg8r
04-13-2010, 11:18 AM
LOL, he was copying your absurd post titles to show how foolish yours looked. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r

LWW
04-13-2010, 12:04 PM
Unlikely.

Practitioners of "BLACKWHITE" and "DOUBLETHINK" can convince their own self that each of the 3 statements are true while also convincing their own self that they never made the statements at all while continuing to make the same types of claims in the future.

It is a fascinating thing to watch.

LWW

LWW
04-13-2010, 12:06 PM
The one truly amazing thing exposed in this thread, other than Q being hoist by his own petard, is that the West Virginia English Teacher of the Year can't spell frivolous ... even with a built in spell check function.

LWW

hondo
04-13-2010, 03:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, he was copying your absurd post titles to show how foolish yours looked. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r </div></div>

I wondered how long it would take you to join the clan and become an apologist for dud.

hondo
04-13-2010, 03:22 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lib Tip # 1: Drop the Race Card: The moment your Conservative opponent begins crafting a cogent, air-tight argument buttressed in fact, drop the race card. This technique is designed to stifle further discussion, impugns your opponent and puts him on the defensive. Often, this is enough of a distraction to direct attention away from your lack of qualitative, quantitative evidence.
</div></div>

Give one example.

Q.</div></div>

How about 3 within the last month:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">G, there are a certain amount of people who will never accept a black man as POTUS. This is a fact.

Q..... </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From the outside looking in, it seems to me that the Tea Party crap and all this negativity from the GOP etc can only be explained by the fact that they can't accept a black President.

Q </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that was of course before a black, Muslim, anti-American, non American, radical Fascist, Communist, Socialist, baby/Grandma killer tried to give all Americans the right to see a doctor.

Q </div></div>

Anything else I can help you with?

LWW </div></div>


Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark. </div></div>


Liberal Guide to Debating Conservatives


Liberals have long since learned that debating Conservatives can be a challenging endeavor, since Conservatives are generally misinformed, and twist the truth beyond recognition. Present them with proven facts, after which you can expect to be personally attacked.

Not to worry. The following are several other tips Liberals can use right away to begin defeating Conservatives in every debate, every time.

Lib Tip # 1: Point out the fact that a Black face at a Conservative Convention is almost unheard of. Then point to the history of Southern White Racists, and link those racist attitudes with the many currently serving conservatives on Capital Hill, who applaud the racist signs used by their constituents. At last, remind them that Michael Steele, when exposed for his expensive spending of contributors money, pulled the race card. After pointing to this fact, you can expect to be personally attacked.


Lib Tip # 2: It is best to end a debate before it starts when a conservative begins to assert facts which have already been proven to be lies. Since they only watch Fox News, and listen to irrational zealots like Beck and Limpballs, don't expect anything rational to come from their opinions. End the debate, and then expect to be personally attacked, non stop into infinity.


Lib Tip # 3: Remember taht morals have been a thing of the past for Conservatives for many years. Point to the many pedophiles, closeted gays who stay in the closet, while purporting "Family Values" and vote against gay rights, then add to that all of the convicted felons and marital falanderers from the "Family Values" Christian Conservatives. Point out the pedophilia of the Catholic Church, and the child abuse at Christian Bible School Camps, After which, You can expect to be personally attacked.


Lib Tip # 4: Exploit the Weakest Link: Define your opponent by his weakest link. If 10,000 Tea Partiers hold a rally, amid racist signs which were displayed in front of Republican Leaders who applauded them right in front of the cameras, on the capital steps. your point can be proven just by providing the link to the many videos which prove your point.

Additionally, you can provide the links to the racist, angry mobs that began way back during the campaign. If they still persist, and call you a liar, which is their habit when proven wrong, you might consider refering them to the Southern Poverty Law Center, where reams of factual information is provided and which includes links to sources such as the FBI, and the Homeland Security Department, also warning of the dangers currently being displayed by the many numerous threats of violence, and multiple radical groups, growing within the conservative Tea Parties. This will also likely bring on another personal attack.


Lib Tip # 5: Be alert for their right-wing talking points. That is all that they have, so expect them to use them frequently. Remember, these people voted twice for George Bush, the worst president in history, who said that the Constitution was just a piece of paper, during his tenure, while he broke the Geneva Conventions, was slapped down three times by the Supreme Court for unconstitutional behavior, illegally spied on Americans, fomented torture and lied the country into a war. Don't expect Conservatives who applaud duntzes like Sara Palin, and George Bush, to have any appreciation for the REAL news of the day. Their goal is to avoid reality, so be careful to illimate them early on, from any attempt at real debate. Expect continued personal attacks, even years after you have ended any interaction.

Lib Tip # 6: Remember, these people hate their government, as they were brainwashed to do many years ago, by an actor who pretended to have a brain, so don't expect any real patriotism, or empathy for their fellow Americans. They may call themselves Christians, but in fact, they are greedy, cannot stand to think that any of their tax dollars might help another American, and only approve of seeing their taxes be used to kill people on the other side of the world, or fill the pockets of the walthy. so remember, they are truly not Christians, at all. Expect to be personally attacked when you point out their hisotrical documented lack of appreciation for any humanitarian endeavors.

Lib Tip # 7: Define America by it’s Errors, not its Successes: This is what they love, since they hate their government. Expect to be personally attacked regardless, since attack mode is their only debating skill.

Taking a cue from Lib Tip # 4, It is important to characterize America by it’s current goals and issues, since their ability to grasp the true historical information is unheard of. It is critical that you completely overlook all the bad moves America has made, and the manner in which Republicans supported and propped up one dictatorship after another. In fact, you must go to some lengths to divert people from the notion that because of Republican policies, particularly those of both Bush administrations, and Reagan's administration, the world is a far more dangerous, hostile, sad place. It is pointless to address these facts, since conservatives cannot grasp them.

Even pointing out the bad treatment of Indians and Slaves, will be denied by Conservatives, since they still think the White Man deserves to have slaves, and actually have Governors on the scene, currently, who praise the Confederacy, without a mention of slavery at all. Expect to be personally attacked after you do this...and don't bother mentioning how many Americans have been killed by the same Weapons of Mass Destruction which Conservatives have spread around the world for money for decades.

Lib Tip # 8: Blame talk radio and FOX news for fanning hate and racism: Because they are in fact the Conservative's main source of unamerican rheotric and lies. Avoid at all costs the fact that both talk radio and FOX news would not be able to spread around all theuir propaganda, if their King Communist, Ronald Reagan, hadn't removed all semblence of journalistic integrity, and standards. Pointing out that Fox's wide audience is linked to the same radical element, and growing irrational RW radical threat which our law enforcement is so concerned about, or the fact that some of the Fox Propagandists, and irrational RW pundits, have actually been linked to murders, will only bring about an example of that very irrational thinking and in some cases, threats of violence, from the Conservative with whom you have attempted to reason. Above all, NEVER try rational reasoning with a propagandized Conservative. They are beyond hope. Expect to be personally attacked, if you dare to maintain your own opinion.

Lib Tip # 9: Government is Good: Insist that appropriate government intervention is a good thing, and is included in the Founder's intentions.

Assert that it is our patriotic duty to pay taxes in spite of the fact that their beloved wealthy corporate fascist pigs, don't pay them. Nothing makes a Conservative more angry than when you point out that the wealthy do not pay their fair share of taxes, since they still believe in the already proven ridiculous theory of Trickle Down Economics.

Also, when debating with a conservative, don't expect any knowledge of economics in general, since they have been known to disregard even the most basic principles adn think that gross debt growth under Republcian control, is not a concern, at all. They ahve been known to defend this absurdity even in the face of complete economic collapse. Expect to be personally attacked when you point this out.


Lib Tip # 10: Send them to this web address http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/tab/article/

which will prove all their ridiculous asssertions about Reagan's economic achievements to be just another of their fantasies. Bill Clinton created the best economy in recent history. Created more jobs than Both Bush's combined, and most Republicans. Tell them that Jimmy Carter produced more jobs than either W. or his father, combined. Expect to be attacked, personally, when you point out this fact.



And at last, and this is probably the best advice of all, Don't bother debating with Conservatives, at all. They are generally nasty people which you would be far better off avoiding entirely. Who want's to argue needlessly with brick headed idiots who think that Sara Palin is a genius, or that a man can live inside of a whale

LWW
04-13-2010, 04:07 PM
You are aware that G's top 10 confirmed every single one of UGOT's top 10 aren't you.

BTW ... you blindly apologizing for G following your post about Eg was just precious.

LWW

ugotda7
04-14-2010, 12:08 AM
It's shocking that a former teacher would exemplify this quote:

"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education."
-Bertrand Russell

JohnnyD
04-14-2010, 12:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's shocking that a former teacher would exemplify this quote:

"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education."
-Bertrand Russell

</div></div>What a terrible teacher he must have been.

JohnnyD
04-14-2010, 12:23 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....However the "retired engineer" assures us that despite the fact that all libs are lying atheists, Jesus does indeed love us......</div></div>H -- Me iz a retired-engineer. But me iz allso a fascist-atheist-greeny -- u kood say me iz a FAG.
madMac.
</div></div>

Yes, friend, but you actually are a retired engineer.
johnny simply poses as one.
Probably has a choo choo train in his basement and a little cap. </div></div>Hondo,Johnny was an engineer.I was an operating engineer out of a local union in New York State.Operating bull dozers,cranes,excavators ect for over 40 years.At least i am not a bumbed out drug using school teacher like you.What a joke of a teacher,using drugs a great example you are.Terrible just shamefull for words.Read the good book Jesus still loves you.Now tell us again how smart you are.

LWW
04-14-2010, 01:14 AM
He only attacks because he cannot compete on the basis of the facts JohnnyD.

LWW

hondo
04-14-2010, 06:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's shocking that a former teacher would exemplify this quote:

"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education."
-Bertrand Russell

</div></div>

Originally Posted By: LWW: "I apologize to the forum."

hondo
04-14-2010, 06:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnnyD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's shocking that a former teacher would exemplify this quote:

"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education."
-Bertrand Russell

</div></div>What a terrible teacher he must have been. </div></div>

Originally Posted By: LWW: "I apologize to the forum."

hondo
04-14-2010, 06:03 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnnyD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....However the "retired engineer" assures us that despite the fact that all libs are lying atheists, Jesus does indeed love us......</div></div>H -- Me iz a retired-engineer. But me iz allso a fascist-atheist-greeny -- u kood say me iz a FAG.
madMac.
</div></div>

Yes, friend, but you actually are a retired engineer.
johnny simply poses as one.
Probably has a choo choo train in his basement and a little cap. </div></div>Hondo,Johnny was an engineer.I was an operating engineer out of a local union in New York State.Operating bull dozers,cranes,excavators ect for over 40 years.At least i am not a bumbed out drug using school teacher like you.What a joke of a teacher,using drugs a great example you are.Terrible just shamefull for words.Read the good book Jesus still loves you.Now tell us again how smart you are. </div></div>

Originally Posted By: LWW; "I apologize to the forum."

ugotda7
04-14-2010, 06:03 AM
You always have been a good follower of your betters.

hondo
04-14-2010, 06:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He only attacks because he cannot compete on the basis of the facts JohnnyD.

LWW </div></div>


Originally Posted By: LWW: "I apologize to the forum."

hondo
04-14-2010, 06:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You always have been a good follower of your betters.
</div></div>

Originally Posted By: LWW: "I apologize to the forum."

ugotda7
04-14-2010, 06:05 AM
Still a good follower of your betters.

JohnnyD
04-14-2010, 09:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnnyD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's shocking that a former teacher would exemplify this quote:

"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education."
-Bertrand Russell

</div></div>What a terrible teacher he must have been. </div></div>

Originally Posted By: LWW: "I apologize to the forum." </div></div>You should apologize to the forum hondo.The truth will set you free.Jesus loves you.

JohnnyD
04-14-2010, 09:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You always have been a good follower of your betters.
</div></div>

Originally Posted By: LWW: "I apologize to the forum." </div></div>IF you ever want to be a teacher you must learn to think for yourself hondo.Get some medical help.

eg8r
04-14-2010, 11:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Knowing when to leave is just as important as knowing when to stay. It's a matter of being centered about life, and understanding people. He's never going to change. He's a waste of her time. She would be making the biggest mistake of her life is she takes him back. </div></div>Certainly took more time for you to think I had done so than it took for you to turn back into a whiner. Is it your desire to fight with everyone?

eg8r

LWW
04-14-2010, 12:23 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Knowing when to leave is just as important as knowing when to stay. It's a matter of being centered about life, and understanding people. He's never going to change. He's a waste of her time. She would be making the biggest mistake of her life is she takes him back. </div></div>Certainly took more time for you to think I had done so than it took for you to turn back into a whiner. Is it your desire to fight with everyone?

eg8r </div></div>

H is the world's most prolific martyr.

You are simply his enemy du jour.

Once he has instigated a fight, that he can claim to be a victim of, with you he will move on to someone else.

LWW

Gayle in MD
04-14-2010, 12:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Knowing when to leave is just as important as knowing when to stay. It's a matter of being centered about life, and understanding people. He's never going to change. He's a waste of her time. She would be making the biggest mistake of her life is she takes him back. </div></div>Certainly took more time for you to think I had done so than it took for you to turn back into a whiner. Is it your desire to fight with everyone?

eg8r </div></div>

I'm not Hondo, sonny...take some reading lessons....

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/tired.gifzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

JohnnyD
04-14-2010, 11:10 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still a good follower of your betters.
</div></div>And he tries to convince people that he is smart and is a teacher.

JohnnyD
04-14-2010, 11:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are aware that G's top 10 confirmed every single one of UGOT's top 10 aren't you.

BTW ... you blindly apologizing for G following your post about Eg was just precious.

LWW </div></div>Yes it was LWW.You are right again.You have hondo on a string.

LWW
04-15-2010, 05:02 AM
And he knows it.

LWW

hondo
04-15-2010, 05:31 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Knowing when to leave is just as important as knowing when to stay. It's a matter of being centered about life, and understanding people. He's never going to change. He's a waste of her time. She would be making the biggest mistake of her life is she takes him back. </div></div>Certainly took more time for you to think I had done so than it took for you to turn back into a whiner. Is it your desire to fight with everyone?

eg8r </div></div>

That's not my quote, Sherlock.

eg8r
04-15-2010, 08:59 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not Hondo, sonny</div></div>Granny that sure does that make hondo proud.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
04-15-2010, 09:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not Hondo, sonny</div></div>Granny that sure does that make hondo proud.

eg8r </div></div>

Another incoherent sentence, Sonny. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif Go back to school.

eg8r
04-15-2010, 09:08 AM
No time for that granny.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
04-15-2010, 09:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No time for that granny.

eg8r </div></div>

Right. 9558 posts, almost all of them during work hours. I'd say you are bilking your company, for all your BS about everyone pulling their weight in this world, and taking responsibility for what they do.

Does your boss know how much time you waste on here during work hours????

That's what I thought.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif

LWW
04-15-2010, 10:07 AM
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/sleep.gif

LWW

eg8r
04-15-2010, 11:43 AM
LOL, more ignorance from granny.

eg8r

JohnnyD
04-15-2010, 03:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Knowing when to leave is just as important as knowing when to stay. It's a matter of being centered about life, and understanding people. He's never going to change. He's a waste of her time. She would be making the biggest mistake of her life is she takes him back. </div></div>Certainly took more time for you to think I had done so than it took for you to turn back into a whiner. Is it your desire to fight with everyone?

eg8r </div></div>OHHH yes it is.

That's not my quote, Sherlock. </div></div>