View Full Version : WPBA in Peoria Starts Thursday

08-21-2002, 10:37 AM
After an over 3-month layoff since their last tourney, the WPBA kicks back into action with 2 tourneys in the next 3 weeks - starting tomorrow in Peoria, IL. This tourney should provide us our first look at the new 64 player bracketing which the WPBA board has dictated - providing the seeded players with at least one bye.

As some of us here have speculated to make this work, the top 16 may actually get 2 byes into the 3rd round. The 16 additional first round byes will either be given out randomly to the remaining 48 players, or the #'s 17-32 ranked players may get those byes. We'll just have to wait until tomorrow to see how this unfolds.

Although I've been one of many here on the board who has expressed my disapproval of this change, there are some clear positives here for the lower ranked players in the field - which I'm sure the board will try to stress and emphasize to all these players that may not like it.

First off, a unseeded player is guaranteed not to have to play a highly ranked seeded player in the opening round. If it's done as we are speculating, they additionally won't have to face a top 16 seed in the second round either - if they are able to win that first round match. This means even without having had to face a seeded player, there will be 16 lower ranked players in the field that will make it in to the 3rd round on the winner's side and be guaranteed to have no worse than a T25 finish in the tournament.

No, I don't think it's right they should coddle the seeded players with unnatural byes in a 64 player field, but I do see some possible up sides for the lower ranked players as a result of this change. Bottom line - these lower ranked players will still have to knock off some big name players somewhere down the line in order to have any chance of finishing any higher than T17 in the event. Also, with only 6 events a year and a guaranteed T25 place finish in every tourney for the entire top 16 (even if they go 2-and-out), it will be extremely hard to unseed any of these current seeded players over the short haul. I'm still looking for there to start being more upsets in these events - though I can't really tell you why. - Chris in NC

08-21-2002, 11:00 AM
Good afternoon Chris:

Maybe what the WPBA needs to do, in order to avoid a very convoluted format for providing the Top Sixteen (16) Players with First (1st) Round Byes, is increase the size of the field to Eighty (80) from Sixty Four (64). Increasing the field size to Eighty (80), while continuing to use the Sixty Four (64) player chart, would allow the top Sixteen (16) to have First (1st) Round Byes with-out the need for additional byes through-out the chart.

Just something to consider.

Dr. D.

08-21-2002, 11:24 AM
Chris. I've always been opposed to the practice of seeding but your post pointed out a perspective that illustrates some advantages to the unseeded, unseasoned player trying to get some experience and a chance at some cash to offset expenses that I had never considered before. Food for thought and perhaps a change of attitude. Thanks.

08-21-2002, 01:42 PM
Diana, 80 players can't possibly work for a 64 player chart. Expanding to 80 would require going to a 128 player chart - which means 48 1st round byes and only 32 players playing 16 1st round matches. You'd have to expand all the way up to 112 players to accomplish these 1st round byes only for the seeded players in the same fashion they did when they had the 48 player fields.

Diana, I just finally saw and read your e-mail (I don't check my e-mail very often) regarding your inquiry as to activities / attractions in the blue ridge mountains region. I would need to know more specifically as to what kind of activities you're looking for? As far as beautiful places to hike we're hard to beat, and the Blue Ridge Parkway has breathtaking views, but one can only take so much of it. Also in the Asheville, NC area you have the Biltmore House Estates - a very popular tourist attraction. The golf courses are great and I've heard there's a nice little poolroom nestled up in the heart of the blue ridge mountains (LOL). Of course, northern New England provides a great destination as well - and a little less of a drive for you. - Chris in NC

08-21-2002, 04:14 PM
I just called the Para-Dice Casino and was informed that tickets for Saturday and Sunday are already sold out and that you cannot purchase tickets at the door. They did have advanced tickets for tommorrow (Thurs.) and Friday but that was all.I wonder how many blocks of tickets were purchased by the casino itself and will end up going unused? Wanna bet that there will be empty seats that you can't buy?

Voodoo Daddy
08-21-2002, 04:24 PM
I could care less about the "elite 16", I'm rootin' for Fran!! Let them take the easy road for now...someone will get wise to these antics.

08-21-2002, 04:39 PM
Go Fran, Go Fran, Go Fran

08-22-2002, 04:23 AM
Yep-along with Karen,Gina,Jennifer,Liz and Romana!:)
Carol~wishing them all the best!:)

Voodoo Daddy
08-22-2002, 06:27 PM
Yeah, what Carol said!!

08-22-2002, 07:23 PM
Chris, you fail to mention that in a fair draw tournament all 16 top players could possibly face each other in the first round and the 8 winners would then face each other in the 2nd round. In that case the bottom 48 would only have to face each other for the first two rounds and the ones that got to the third round would find only 4 of the top 16 left. Much better odds than the way it is set up now. Where the ones who make it to the 3rd round find the top 16 waiting for them. This tournament is nothing but a joke and probably will bring down the WPBA. But I don't care anymore. ESPN has run the Vivian/Karen match 4 times. Jake