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Qtec
05-17-2010, 03:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">U.S. Said to Allow Drilling Without Needed Permits
By IAN URBINA

Correction Appended

WASHINGTON — The federal Minerals Management Service gave permission to BP and dozens of other oil companies to drill in the Gulf of Mexico without first getting required permits from another agency that assesses threats to endangered species — and despite strong warnings from that agency about the impact the drilling was likely to have on the gulf.

Those approvals, federal records show, include one for the well drilled by the Deepwater Horizon rig, which exploded on April 20, killing 11 workers and resulting in thousands of barrels of oil spilling into the gulf each day.

The Minerals Management Service, or M.M.S., also routinely overruled its staff biologists and engineers who raised concerns about the safety and the environmental impact of certain drilling proposals in the gulf and in Alaska, according to a half-dozen current and former agency scientists.

Those scientists said they were also regularly pressured by agency officials to change the findings of their internal studies if they predicted that an accident was likely to occur or if wildlife might be harmed.

Under the Endangered Species Act and the Marine Mammal Protection Act, the Minerals Management Service is required to get permits to allow drilling where it might harm endangered species or marine mammals.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, or NOAA, is partly responsible for protecting endangered species and marine mammals. It has said on repeated occasions that drilling in the gulf affects these animals, but the minerals agency since January 2009 has approved at least three huge lease sales, 103 seismic blasting projects and 346 drilling plans. Agency records also show that permission for those projects and plans was granted without getting the permits required under federal law.

“M.M.S. has given up any pretense of regulating the offshore oil industry,” said Kierán Suckling, director of the Center for Biological Diversity, an environmental advocacy group in Tucson, which filed notice of intent to sue the agency over its noncompliance with federal law concerning endangered species. “The agency seems to think its mission is to help the oil industry evade environmental laws.”

Kendra Barkoff, a spokeswoman for the Interior Department, said her agency had full consultations with NOAA about endangered species in the gulf. But she declined to respond to additional questions about whether her agency had obtained the relevant permits.

Federal records indicate that these consultations ended with NOAA instructing the minerals agency that continued drilling in the gulf was harming endangered marine mammals and that the agency needed to get permits to be in compliance with federal law.

Responding to the accusations that agency scientists were being silenced, Ms. Barkoff added, <span style='font-size: 20pt'><u>“Under the previous administration, there was a pattern of suppressing science in decisions,</u> </span>and we are working very hard to change the culture and empower scientists in the Department of the Interior.” </div></div>

Who could forget this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WASHINGTON — A former White House official accused of improperly editing reports on global warming defended his editorial changes Monday as reflecting views expressed in a 2001 report by the National Academy of Sciences.

House Democrats said the 181 changes made in three climate reports reflected a consistent attempt to emphasize uncertainties surrounding the science of climate change and undercut the broad conclusions that manmade emissions are warming the earth.

Philip Cooney, former chief of staff at the White House Council on Environmental Quality, acknowledged at a House hearing that some of the changes he made were <span style='font-size: 20pt'>"to align these communications with the administration's stated policy" </span>on climate change.

The extent of Cooney's editing of government climate reports first surfaced in 2005. <u>Shortly thereafter, Cooney, a former oil industry lobbyist, left the White House to work at Exxon Mobil Corp </u></div></div>

When those who should be regulating are part of the problem you are asking for trouble.
Q

LWW
05-17-2010, 04:25 AM
Yet dearest leader's regime continued the exact policy ... and oddly enough that doesn't bother you?

Of course, that surprises nobody.

LWW

Qtec
05-17-2010, 05:40 AM
Oh yeah. he fired everybody that Bush employed, set his own team in there and said, "follow the Bush doctrine". /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Ever since Obama was elected, the GOP have <u>opposed everything </u>the Dems want to do and <u>have brought Govt to a standstill</u> and you want to blame Obama for the total incompetence and corruption which has been instilled in Govt regulators over the last 9 yrs by the Bush admin?

You seem to expect him to be 'the magic negro' President who can fix all the faults of the previous Admin instantly.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>On the one hand you say he is some evil Socialist, Communist, Nazi, with a plan for a new world order and in the next breath he is just another GW!</span>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Which is it?</span>

Q

pooltchr
05-17-2010, 06:25 AM
[quote=Qtec] <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> but the minerals agency since January 2009 has approved at least three huge lease sales, 103 seismic blasting projects and 346 drilling plans. Agency records also show that permission for those projects and plans was granted without getting the permits required under federal law.

“M.M.S. has given up any pretense of regulating the offshore oil industry,” said Kierán Suckling, director of the Center for Biological Diversity, an environmental advocacy group in Tucson, which filed notice of intent to sue the agency over its noncompliance with federal law concerning endangered species. “The agency seems to think its mission is to help the oil industry evade environmental laws.”

Q </div></div>

I wonder why you didn't highlight the part above. Could it be due to the fact that this has been happening since Obama has come into power??

Steve

Qtec
05-17-2010, 06:59 AM
Why does,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">“The agency seems to think its mission is to help the oil industry evade environmental laws.” </div></div>?

Where did they get that idea from? Obama?
Q

Qtec
05-17-2010, 07:10 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NYT: Scientists find giant oil plumes in Gulf
One is about 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick
By JUSTIN GILLIS
The New York Times
updated 9:04 p.m. ET May 15, 2010

NEW YORK - Scientists are finding enormous oil plumes in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico, including one as large as 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick. The discovery is fresh evidence that the leak from the broken undersea well could be substantially worse than estimates that the government and BP have given.

“There’s a shocking amount of oil in the deep water, relative to what you see in the surface water,” said Samantha Joye, a researcher at the University of Georgia who is involved in one of the first scientific missions to gather details about what is happening in the gulf. “There’s a tremendous amount of oil in multiple layers, three or four or five layers deep in the water column.”

The plumes are depleting the oxygen dissolved in the gulf, worrying scientists, who fear that the oxygen level could eventually fall so low as to kill off much of the sea life near the plumes.

Dr. Joye said the oxygen had already dropped 30 percent near some of the plumes in the month that the broken oil well had been flowing. “If you keep those kinds of rates up, you could draw the oxygen down to very low levels that are dangerous to animals in a couple of months,” she said Saturday. “That is alarming.” </div></div>

I see boom years for the West coast.

Q

LWW
05-17-2010, 07:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>On the one hand you say he is some evil Socialist, Communist, Nazi, with a plan for a new world order and in the next breath he is just another GW!</span>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Which is it?</span>

Q </div></div>

Almost. I said he is leading the US to a fascist economy. So was Bush. Obama simply has the pedal pressed all the way down while Bush had the cruise set.

Clearer?

LWW

Gayle in MD
05-17-2010, 08:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh yeah. he fired everybody that Bush employed, set his own team in there and said, "follow the Bush doctrine". /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Ever since Obama was elected, the GOP have <u>opposed everything </u>the Dems want to do and <u>have brought Govt to a standstill</u> and you want to blame Obama for the total incompetence and corruption which has been instilled in Govt regulators over the last 9 yrs by the Bush admin?

You seem to expect him to be 'the magic negro' President who can fix all the faults of the previous Admin instantly.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>On the one hand you say he is some evil Socialist, Communist, Nazi, with a plan for a new world order and in the next breath he is just another GW!</span>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Which is it?</span>

Q </div></div>

It's whatever they can come up with to try to disguise the fact that they were taken in by their party of corruption, and the dumbest, most corrupt and most damaging administration in history....and of course to do that, the first step is total denial, as usual.... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Latest polls are showing Republicans losing that little edge they had, and the Dems, up by five points.

Haven't heard little Sara yelling Drill Baby Drill lately... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Hmmmm, what's up with that? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif She's going back to the ol', "They'll take away your guns, oh, and all your ammo, too!

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Like I said, this president should have fired all of the agency heads and others who were put into a job, or an agency, by Bush.

The culture of corruption during Bush was so vast as to corrupt every agency, and including axing all of the honest people, who spoke truth to power, they made a clean sweep of all of the good public service folks....

Worst Problem our country has now, is...dealing with the party of no...no no no...we're not going to address any pressing problems, we're just going to say NO, like Nancy Reagan told us all to do all along, JUST SAY NO!

LMAO, Sara's moved along from pit bulls to grizzley bears, ah, is that a plus? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

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Stretch
05-17-2010, 08:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>On the one hand you say he is some evil Socialist, Communist, Nazi, with a plan for a new world order and in the next breath he is just another GW!</span>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Which is it?</span>

Q </div></div>

Almost. I said he is leading the US to a fascist economy. So was Bush. Obama simply has the pedal pressed all the way down while Bush had the cruise set.

Clearer?

LWW </div></div>

And your choice of Leader and Party would be who?? St.

pooltchr
05-17-2010, 08:32 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[
Latest polls are showing Republicans losing that little edge they had, and the Dems, up by five points.

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I don't know which polls you read, but the most comprehensive and generally most accurate poll paints a different picture:

It’s moment of truth time again. Or more accurately this coming Tuesday is primary day in Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Arkansas and Oregon.

For Democrats, it will put an end to two messy primary battles – with incumbents battling for survival in Pennsylvania and Arkansas. For Republicans, Kentucky is an electoral test of the Tea Party movement’s influence with Ron Paul’s son contesting for the party’s Senate nomination. In Oregon, a messy governor’s race will finally be sorted out.

Look for Rasmussen Reports to survey all four general election match-ups as soon as the smoke clears.

Congressman Joe Sestak last week moved ahead of Republican-turned-Democrat Arlen Specter for the first time in their increasingly bitter Senate primary match-up in Pennsylvania. Looking beyond the primary, likely GOP nominee Pat Toomey still runs strongly against Specter, but Pennsylvana’s U.S. Senate contest is a dead heat if his Democratic opponent is Sestak.


Of course, part of the frustration voters feel is due to what they see as the government’s unresponsiveness to their concerns. The recently-passed national health care bill is perhaps the number one example these days. The number of voters who expect that bill to increase the federal deficit is at its highest level yet, and most voters continue to favor its repeal. Support for repeal is proving to be just as consistent as opposition to the bill before it was passed into law, with 56% now calling for repeal.

Despite the public outcry by President Obama and other political leaders about Arizona’s just-adopted law to crack down on illegal immigration, our surveys find support for similar laws high in many states.

The number of voters who view the issue of immigration as Very Important has now jumped to its highest level ever, although the economy and government corruption are still seen as most important.

For years voters have expressed unhappiness with the federal government’s failure to control the borders, a failure that Arizona officials say led to their new law. Americans also continue to overwhelmingly believe that English should be the official language of the United States and reject by sizable margins the idea that such a move is racist or a violation of free speech.

Yet while politicians struggle against an anti-incumbent mood sweeping the country, many Americans are looking beyond the government to find solutions for the nation’s problems. Sixty-seven percent (67%) of voters, in fact, believe that volunteering for church and community groups is more important than getting involved in politics and government. In terms of being a good citizen, only 17% take the opposite view and think involvement in politics matters most.

Forty-four percent (44%) say volunteer activities and organizations are more likely than new government programs to bring about the change needed in the United States. Thirty-seven percent (37%) take the opposite view and say that new government programs and policies will bring about the needed change.

Anger at incumbents and dissatisfaction with the government doesn’t translate into disillusionment with America though. Seventy-one percent (71%) of voters say the United States is a more positive force for good in the world today than the United Nations. Interestingly, however, the Political Class tends to put more faith in the international organization than Mainstream American voters do.

Looking overseas, 79% of Americans are at least somewhat concerned that Europe’s current financial crisis will cause economic problems in the United States.

Confidence as measured by the Rasmussen Consumer and Investor Indexes fell slightly this week but is still up from the first of the year.

While most voters say the government did a good or excellent job responding to the attempted terrorist car bombing in New York’s Times Square earlier this month, 85% worry than another terrorist attack in the United States is likely in the next year.

Here at home we can look for Elena Kagan, the president’s new nominee for the Supreme Court, to dominate the headlines. Rasmussen Reports has begun regular tracking of the confirmation process, and 82% of voters now expect Kagan to be confirmed by the Senate. Voters are evenly divided, however, over whether Kagan, the first nominee without judicial experience chosen in nearly 40 years, should be confirmed: 33% say yes, 33% say no, and 34% are undecided. By comparison, 45% favored the confirmation of Sonia Sotomayor, named to the high court by the president last year, in the first survey following her nomination.

Forty-three percent (43%) of voters regard Kagan as a liberal, while 31% say she’s a moderate. Just three percent (3%) view her as conservative. But since most voters know little about Kagan at this point, these numbers are likely to have more to do with perceptions of the president than of her.

At week’s end, 46% of voters said they at least somewhat approve of the president's performance, according to the Rasmusen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll. Fifty-three percent (53%) disapprove (see month-by-month review). The Rasmussen Reports Media Meter shows that media coverage of the President has been 54% positive over the past week.

Republican candidates now hold a six-point lead over Democrats in the latest edition of the Generic Congressional Ballot, matching the narrowest gap between the two parties this year. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Forty-four percent (44%) would vote for their district's Republican congressional candidate, while 38% would opt for his or her Democratic opponent.</span>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Just 30% of Voters now say the country is heading in the right direction, the lowest level of confidence measured in nearly two months.</span>

Steve

LWW
05-17-2010, 08:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stretch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>On the one hand you say he is some evil Socialist, Communist, Nazi, with a plan for a new world order and in the next breath he is just another GW!</span>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Which is it?</span>

Q </div></div>

Almost. I said he is leading the US to a fascist economy. So was Bush. Obama simply has the pedal pressed all the way down while Bush had the cruise set.

Clearer?

LWW </div></div>

And your choice of Leader and Party would be who?? St. </div></div>

We are close to an epiphany I see. Kudos.

I follow <u>NO</u> party blindly, although I have in the past ... but I learned from the experience. As a youth I was a hardcore demokook until I saw the corruption and deceit with the left. I then became a devour republichicken during the Carter debacle ... only to see that power corrupted the republichickens into simply demokook lite.

As far as what party I'm closest to, that would be the libertarians even though I disagree with them.

I am ideologicaly a kindred spirit with the founders of our nation ... sadly they are dead.

As to candidates I wish were running on seriously for a national ticket ...

- Bob Barr.

- Ron Paul.

- Newt Gingrich.

- Zell Miller.

- Walter Williams.

- Clarence Paige.

- JC Watts.

- Antonin Scalia.

- Clarence Thomas.

- Samuel Alito.

- John Roberts.

Obama/McCain/Bush/Clinton/Dole/Palin are all so far down my list as to not even be funny.

What kills me about you guys is anyone with a (D) is immediately sainted and anyone with an (R) is immediately demonized.

A party owns you and your vote and has no reason to ever do anything for you when you have openly pledged your eternal fealty.

LWW