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Qtec
05-23-2010, 01:45 AM
link (http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/gingrich-comparing-obama-administration-na)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gingrich: Comparing Obama Administration to Nazi Germany and Soviet Union 'Reasoned and Compelling'
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Watch the video. I disagree with every single thing he says because most of it, all of it is lies.

For starters,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You know, <u>we're a country </u>that says we're endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. </div></div>

WTF does that mean?
What country.........<span style='font-size: 14pt'>real America?</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The seventeenth-century English philosopher Richard Cumberland wrote <span style='font-size: 14pt'>that promoting the well-being of our fellow humans is essential to the "pursuit of our own happiness."</span>[2] John Locke wrote in his 1693 Essay Concerning Human Understanding that "the highest perfection of intellectual nature lies in a careful and constant pursuit of true and solid happiness." [3] Also in 1693, Locke's philosophical opponent Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz associated "natural right" with happiness in the introduction to his Codex Iuris Gentium.[4] William Wollaston's 1722 book The Religion of Nature Delineated describes the "truest definition" of "natural religion" as being "The pursuit of happiness by the practice of reason and truth."[5] The 1763 English translation of Jean Jacques Burlamaqui's Principles of Natural and Politic Law extolled the "noble pursuit" of "true and solid happiness" in the opening chapter discussing natural rights.[6]

The first and second article of the Virginia Declaration of Rights adopted unanimously by the Virginia Convention of Delegates on June 12, 1776 and written by George Mason, is:

That all men <span style='font-size: 17pt'>are by nature equally free and independent,</span> and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.

Benjamin Franklin was in agreement with Thomas Jefferson in downplaying protection of "property" as a goal of government, replacing the idea with "happiness."[7] The United States <u>Declaration of Independence,</u> which was primarily drafted by Jefferson, was adopted by the Second Continental Congress on July 4, 1776. The text of the second section of the Declaration of Independence reads:

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

A differing analysis on the origin of this phrase was provided in his book “INVENTING AMERICA Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence”, where historian Garry Wills argues [final paragraph, part two]:

When Jefferson spoke of pursuing happiness, he had nothing vague or private in mind. He meant a public happiness which is measurable; which is, indeed, the test and justification of any government. But to understand why he considered the pursuit of that happiness an unalienable right, we must look to another aspect of Enlightenment thought - to the science of morality.
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The DoI is not the US Con.

Another.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think the drive of the secularist to eliminate God from American life is a much greater long-term danger <span style='font-size: 20pt'>because freedom is built on faith.</span> </div></div>

No it friggin isn't you imbecile, freedom comes from the Law.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this country's deepest beliefs start with the idea that <span style='font-size: 20pt'>power comes from God to you personally, and then you loan power to the state.</span> The state is not the center of power, you are. </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>BS</span>. This guy is lying or he lives in La La land.

Why should anyone believe a single word he says anyway?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ethics sanctions

On January 21, 1997, the House voted 395 to 28 to reprimand Gingrich for <span style='font-size: 17pt'>ethics violations</span> dating back to September 1994. The House ordered Gingrich to pay a $300,000 penalty, <span style='font-size: 23pt'>the first time in the House's 208-year history it had disciplined a Speaker for ethical wrongdoing.</span>[18] </div></div>


Q

LWW
05-23-2010, 06:26 AM
You poor, clueless soul.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
hen in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and <span style='font-size: 26pt'><span style='font-family: Arial Black'><u>to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them</u></span></span>, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

<span style='font-size: 26pt'><span style='font-family: Arial Black'><u>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights</u></span></span>, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — <span style='font-size: 26pt'><span style='font-family: Arial Black'><u>And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.</u></span></span>

— John Hancock

New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton

Massachusetts:
John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery

Connecticut:
Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott

New York:
William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris

New Jersey:
Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark

Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross

Delaware:
Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean

Maryland:
Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton

Virginia:
George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton

North Carolina:
William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn

South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton

Georgia:
Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton </div></div>

I feel sorry for many whose ignorance of the truth is due to lack of education or impaired mental acuity ... but yours is of your own free will, and is for that reason unworthy of my sympathy.

LWW

Gayle in MD
05-23-2010, 07:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why should anyone believe a single word he says anyway?
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Intelligent people don't. He's a joke. His hypocrocy is legendary. As is Bush's, Delay's and Cheney's, Boehner, McConnell, McCain, Palin, Rove, Ensign, Sanforod, Graham, the lot of them.

G.

pooltchr
05-23-2010, 08:59 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

No it friggin isn't you imbecile, freedom comes from the Law.

Q </div></div>

Are you actually suggesting that the only freedom anyone should have is that which the state decides to grant to them?????????????

Steve

LWW
05-23-2010, 10:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

No it friggin isn't you imbecile, freedom comes from the Law.

Q </div></div>

Are you actually suggesting that the only freedom anyone should have is that which the state decides to grant to them?????????????

Steve </div></div>

It is a confession of fealty to the state and a willingness to accept whatever scraps his state master allows him to have.

It also is a confession of a complete dearth of understanding of the principles upon which this nation was founded.

LWW

cushioncrawler
05-23-2010, 09:01 PM
He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidels powers, is the warfare of the Christian king of Great Britain. He has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce determining to keep open a market where MEN should be bought and sold: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.

Where did the infidels bit in the draft go???????
madMac.

Qtec
05-24-2010, 03:52 AM
Great cut and paste job but what's your point?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You know,<span style='font-size: 17pt'> we're</span> a country that says we're endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. </div></div>

The COUNTRY does not. Not the whole country. eg "what Creator"

My point is this, the Dec of Independence or any other Declaration is not the Law. The Law is based in the US Con and its whole theme is about equality and that Govt should favour no religion higher than another.
To claim the the USA is a Christian Nation goes 100% against what the US Con is all about.

That of course is JMO.

Q

Qtec
05-24-2010, 04:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

No it friggin isn't you imbecile, freedom comes from the Law.

Q </div></div>

Are you actually suggesting that the only freedom anyone should have is that which the state decides to grant to them?????????????

Steve </div></div>

No.

The Law says what you can't do, it doesn't dictate your actions.

In the USA you can do anything you want, have a Lion in your garden, you can even have sex with animals in some states as long as its not against the Law.
link (http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/092409_Judge_Bestiality_Legal_In_New_Jersey)


Q

LWW
05-24-2010, 05:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great cut and paste job but what's your point?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You know,<span style='font-size: 17pt'> we're</span> a country that says we're endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. </div></div>

The COUNTRY does not. Not the whole country. eg "what Creator"

My point is this, the Dec of Independence or any other Declaration is not the Law. The Law is based in the US Con and its whole theme is about equality and that Govt should favour no religion higher than another.
To claim the the USA is a Christian Nation goes 100% against what the US Con is all about.

That of course is JMO.

Q </div></div>

The D of I does not define a Christian God.

LWW