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Qtec
05-23-2010, 03:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">At the end of a rocky week, newly chosen Senate nominee Rand Paul (R-KY) has canceled a planned interview on NBC's "Meet the Press" citing exhaustion. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>It's only the third cancellation from a major guest in 62 years, </span>the show's Executive Producer Betsy Fischer said in an interview this afternoon.

"It is a big deal when somebody cancels an appearance," she said. </div></div>

Paul,s mistake was to actually speak his mind, revealing his true thoughts and beliefs.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course, Paul's troubles started Wednesday night when he debated the Civil Rights Act with Rachel Maddow on her MSNBC show. </div></div>

video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3O2rBz9gwo)

The meat begins around the 3 min mark.

RP believes any private business can refuse to serve people because they are blacks, gays, Jews etc.

Go Tea Party.

Q

Qtec
05-23-2010, 03:54 AM
the good old days? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwdNwxGfbEc&feature=related)

Q

llotter
05-23-2010, 04:27 AM
Rand Paul is correct in his criticism of the '64 Civil Rights Act as the Woolworth video demonstrates. It's too bad that there is a bunch of stupid people who value freedom less than their backward, wrongheaded ideology.

LWW
05-23-2010, 06:42 AM
Did you even listen to the video you linked?

Obviously not.

Are you willingly being fed ginned up hate by the party?

Obviously.

Have you ever held Kleagle, Exalted Cyclops, and US Senator Robert Cornelius Calvin Sales Byrd Junior to anything approaching the same standard ... even though he still holds the record for the longest filibuster in senate history when he filibustered against the USCRA of 1964? Of course not ... he has (D) following his name on the ballot.

LWW

Gayle in MD
05-23-2010, 06:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">At the end of a rocky week, newly chosen Senate nominee Rand Paul (R-KY) has canceled a planned interview on NBC's "Meet the Press" citing exhaustion. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>It's only the third cancellation from a major guest in 62 years, </span>the show's Executive Producer Betsy Fischer said in an interview this afternoon.

"It is a big deal when somebody cancels an appearance," she said. </div></div>

Paul,s mistake was to actually speak his mind, revealing his true thoughts and beliefs.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course, Paul's troubles started Wednesday night when he debated the Civil Rights Act with Rachel Maddow on her MSNBC show. </div></div>

video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3O2rBz9gwo)

The meat begins around the 3 min mark.

RP believes any private business can refuse to serve people because they are blacks, gays, Jews etc.

Go Tea Party.

Q </div></div>

He claimed exhaustion, lol, he wore himself out, backtracking off his racist statements.

Only a nutty libertarian or nutty Republican representatives, could watch this oil spill, and be on the side of the oil companies. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

I just hope he keeps talking! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

eg8r
05-23-2010, 08:33 AM
So in your own words, is this thread about Paul speaking his mind and you not liking what he had to say or the fact that he actually cancelled his appearance?

eg8r

pooltchr
05-23-2010, 08:37 AM
Wow! He actually chose to make a decision not to sit down with NBC? When did the media start to dictate what our political leaders will and will not do with their time?

If he didn't want to go on the show, so what?

Steve

Qtec
05-24-2010, 04:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So in your own words, is this thread about Paul speaking his mind and you not liking what he had to say or the fact that he actually cancelled his appearance?

eg8r </div></div>

Rand Paul spoke his mind and revealed what an idiotic racist bigoted sleaze ball he really is.
Rachel Maddow called him out ans all he could do was avoid answering.
Now he is going back on a belief that he has obviously held for a long time.
He is another product of the extreme RW media [ FOX] who peddle their doom and gloom scenario every day.

Q.....I say buy Gold....my guy is Goldline.

Qtec
05-24-2010, 04:45 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Wow! He actually chose to make a decision not to sit down with NBC?</div></div>

Why did he do that? You obviously have no idea.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's only the third cancellation from a major guest <span style='font-size: 20pt'>in 62 years,</span> </div></div>

Q

pooltchr
05-24-2010, 05:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Why did he do that? You obviously have no idea.



Q </div></div>

Nor do you. Maybe you should ask him.

Steve

hondo
05-24-2010, 05:59 AM
So, forget Paul.
Instead of attacking him or defending him, go to my thread, folks, and state how YOU feel about business owners' rights.

dud weaseled out of the question by launching into a tirade about me being a racist, but I know Ed and Steve and Sev have more integrity than dud so give us your opinions.

LWW
05-24-2010, 06:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, forget Paul.
Instead of attacking him or defending him, go to my thread, folks, and state how YOU feel about business owners' rights.

dud weaseled out of the question by launching into a tirade about me being a racist, but I know Ed and Steve and Sev have more integrity than dud so give us your opinions. </div></div>

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Qtec
05-24-2010, 07:21 AM
I do and have made the same argument on several threads.!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nor do you. Maybe you should ask him.

Steve </div></div>

CAN you read?
Did I not show a video of Rachel Maddow asking that very same question TO HIS FACE?

Get real Steve. Paul said its ok to discriminate on any basis, ie colour, religion, sexuality, ....anything.

Q

pooltchr
05-24-2010, 08:26 AM
Hondo, I thought I answered the question in the other thread.

We have laws against discrimination, so businessmen are not allowed to allow only certain people into their "public" business. Private clubs are completely different. Is the WPBA discriminating against men by not allowing them to enter their events?

A smart businessman will welcome all customers. It supports the reason they are in business to begin with.

I had an experience one time that brought this to light for me. I love jazz, and heard about a new jazz club that had opened in a town a few miles away. I took my wife on a friday night, drove to the place and walked in the door. It was immediately obvious that we were the only two caucasions in the club. The manager was at our side before we were two steps inside. He personally escorted us to a prime table on the second floor overlooking the stage. Now I don't know if it was because we were white, or if everyone was treated this well, but we were made to feel like VIPs all night. (The music was great, by the way)

The point is, we were welcomed into the business in spite of our race. It's simply good business to treat your customers right. The manager had no right to turn us away, but he had two choices...make us comfortable and build up his business, or make us feel very uncomfortable and out of place, and never see us again.

It's a shame that we have to have laws to force people to do the right thing.

Steve

LWW
05-24-2010, 09:26 AM
Hondo and Q both believe that incessantly repeating the question magically adds validity to it.

The fact remains, much to their chagrin, that the posted video does not support the claim they are implying.

That being said, the party has told them that they are to believe that it has so they believe that it does.

Agitprops are simply tools and no rational discussion, other than for entertainment purposes, can be had.

LWW

eg8r
05-24-2010, 03:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He is another product of the extreme RW media [ FOX] who peddle their doom and gloom scenario every day.</div></div>What did Fox have to do with him?

eg8r

Qtec
05-25-2010, 05:42 AM
As usual, you reveal your ignorance of the facts.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 17pt'><span style="color: #990000">GOP candidate Rand Paul on Fox "all of the time"</span></span>: <span style='font-size: 20pt'>21 appearances since last May</span>

May 19, 2010 3:50 pm ET by Eric Hananoki

Just before Kentucky's Republican Senate primary, Trey Grayson complained that his opponent Rand Paul is "on [Fox] all of the time ... His dad [Rep. Ron Paul, R-TX] had these phenomenal contacts, so ... he's on Fox News every couple of weeks with softballs." Paul's certainly been a frequent guest on Fox: From May 2009 to May 17, Paul appeared on Fox programs at least 21 times. Paul has also been endorsed on-air by Fox News "political analysts" Dick Morris and Sarah Palin.

From the beginning, Paul used Fox News to garner national publicity to defeat an establishment opponent. Paul officially announced his Senate bid on August 5, 2009, on Neil Cavuto's Fox News show -- a point Cavuto repeated in a September 2009 interview with Paul and his father. Cavuto responded to Grayson's charge yesterday by claiming that his show invited Grayson on every time they hosted Paul.

The following is a list of the appearances Paul has made on Fox News, Fox Business and FoxNews.com between May 20, 2009 and May 17:

* May 17: America's Newsroom
* May 10: Your World with Neil Cavuto
* May 5: America's Nightly Scoreboard (Fox Business)
* May 4: Freedom Watch (FoxNews.com)
* April 1: Glenn Beck
* March 22: Freedom Watch (FoxNews.com)
* March 15: America's Nightly Scoreboard (Fox Business)
* February 4: Your World with Neil Cavuto
* January 27: Freedom Watch (FoxNews.com)
* January 22: Happy Hour (Fox Business)
* December 18, 2009: Glenn Beck
* November 11, 2009: Happy Hour (Fox Business)
* November 6, 2009: Glenn Beck
* October 16, 2009: Your World with Neil Cavuto
* September 23, 2009: Cavuto (Fox Business)
* August 14, 2009: Glenn Beck
* August 5, 2009: Freedom Watch (FoxNews.com)
* August 5, 2009: Your World with Neil Cavuto
* August 5, 2009: Happy Hour (Fox Business)
* July 8, 2009: Glenn Beck
* May 20, 2009: Freedom Watch (FoxNews.com)

According to OpenSecrets.org, Paul has received 77% of his contributions from out-of-state donors, compared to roughly 25% for Grayson and Democrat Jack Conway.

Paul is frequently hosted by Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano, who also fundraised for friend Ron Paul last year. Napolitano is the host of FoxNews.com's Freedom Watch and regularly guest-hosts for Glenn Beck.

Paul proudly touts himself as a tea party candidate, so it's probably no surprise that Fox News -- the biggest booster of the tea parties -- jumped to his cause.

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/fnc-randpaul7.jpg

Fox plugging for Rand Paul...........absolute PROOF.

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/fnc-randpaul8.jpg


http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/fnc-randpaul4.jpg </div></div>

Q....... link (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005190045)

How do you feel?........... Pretty stupid?

eg8r
05-25-2010, 04:01 PM
Why would I feel stupid? I asked a question and all you did was your normal copy/paste job. All you have proved is that you agree with the author of this column who only states Paul was on Fox a lot. You have not provided a single FACT that Fox had anything to do with Paul other than have him on the station.

Every time you open your proverbial mouth you prove why you are our village idiot. It is funny, every time you think you have a "fact" all it turns out to be is your finger is dirty after pulling it out of your rear.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-26-2010, 07:01 AM
Apparently not one of the responders in this thread chose to address the crux of the issue about Paul, and the subject of the thread, taking it off in another direction, away from the true subject.

He clearly made it known that in his opinion, our civil rights laws, forbidding racial discrimination in public places of business, infringe on his version of his freedom and liberty, or some business owner's freedom and liberty, to be a racist, and to discriminate against others according to his, or any business owner's racist preferences.

He's been dancing around what he clearly stated on Maddow's program, all week, and as is often the case on this forum, others distract from the crux of the thread, which is obviously, Paul's racism and racist comments.

He obviously backed out of Meet The Press, to avoid having to answer to, or draw more attention to, his original racist comments, from Maddow's program.

This isn't about private clubs, never was, it is about his belief as regards what he sees as a right, to discriminate on the basis or race.

Such a man should not, and cannot, represent Americans, or America's progress in ending slavery, and ending racial discrimination, approved annd allowed by our government.

Now we will see how many racists there are in Kentucky...who vote for him, inspite of his un-American, racist statements about the lunch counter incident which was a huge and brave step and part of the beginning of our country making a comittment to racial equality, and our long ago steps to outlaw what had previously been a racist society, which grew out of slavery, with all of it's ugly realities....

While Texas may be working to wipe out the realities of scumbags like Joe McCarthy, and the damaging results that people like him do to a peaceful society, and dilute America's shame as a formerly racist society, by skewing history in our children's school books, Paul steps up to the plate and proves that racism in his world, is still alive and well.

The fact is, freedom and liberty cannot exist in a society, unless that society insures both, for all. I suppose Paul, hasn't learned that his rights end at the point of anyone, or everyone else's nose. He does not know his place, obviously. Yet, I don't hear anyone yelling elitism, but instead, more denial.

G.

pooltchr
05-26-2010, 08:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> He does not know his place, obviously.
G.





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Interesting choice of words. I seem to recall it was a favorite phrase of the racists back in the 50s and 60s when talking about one particular race of people.

Just sayin'...

Steve

LWW
05-26-2010, 08:03 AM
You are so adorable when you try to use language to make you appear knowledgeable.

LWW