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Gayle in MD
05-25-2010, 01:25 PM
<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Oh wha, wha, wha, I have sinned, oh boo hoo hoo... </span> </span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

<span style="color: #000066"> Wow, these abstinence only guys are really impressive, lol...</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GOP Rep. Souder Resigns over Extramarital Affair
Republican Congress member Mark Souder of Indiana has announced plans to resign after admitting to an extramarital affair with a part-time staffer. Souder made the announcement at a teary news conference on Tuesday.

Rep. Mark Souder: "I sinned against God, my wife and my family by having a mutual relationship with a part-time member of my staff. In the poisonous environment of Washington, DC, any personal failing is seized upon, twisted for political gain. I am resigning rather than put my family through a painful, drawn-out process of which any legal question would have been clearly resolved and I would have been exonerated.

<span style="color: #000066">Ha ha ha.... </span>

But the political price to pay and the personal of my family was not worth it."

Souder has repeatedly billed himself as a so-called "family values" lawmaker. Last year, he appeared along with the staffer with whom he had the affair in a campaign video promoting abstinence education.

See all headlines for this show </div></div>

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LWW
05-25-2010, 01:30 PM
What happened to this being only about sex and an issue between man and wife?

Those dmaned republichickens ... doing the right thing when they get busted.

LWW

wolfdancer
05-25-2010, 01:41 PM
There was a story on the 'net, not a very flattering one about Mr. Souder's escapades....I almost posted the link here....but didn't want to upset <s> my</s> our fans on the right

Gayle in MD
05-25-2010, 02:38 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There was a story on the 'net, not a very flattering one about Mr. Souder's escapades....I almost posted the link here....but didn't want to upset <s> my</s> our fans on the right </div></div>

Your fans on the right are already upset, emotionally upset, all of the time. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

It's part of the organized ridiculous, and religulous bubba condition, in which they live, compliments of FUX Noise...it's a side affect from the elephant flu, it's an incurable condition, you know, as is being an obnoxous blathering idiot, who continues to go where he isn't wanted, continuing to insist on stalking people who have no interest in any of his irrelevant fly over views.

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wolfdancer
05-25-2010, 02:57 PM
Ah, Gayle, you do have a way with words....
I can see why lww wants to use his stun gun on you, but is afraid it'll cost him rep points on the other unnamed site.
And it must be frustrating for the other guy that continually posts behind you, with the claim that you are stalking him...WTF kind of logic is that?......
I seldom read that bore though....and am now ticked of at myself for wasting my valuable time replying earlier to the biggest **** on the internet....

eg8r
05-25-2010, 04:25 PM
I wish Clinton would have had the balls to do the same thing.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-25-2010, 05:08 PM
Huh????????

Sid_Vicious
05-25-2010, 06:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Huh???????? </div></div>

Like clockwork, Clinton's the problem again, like he was ever the statesman for a family value guy like this pig republican was. It is simply amazing that righties can totally avoid such uglies within their party, AND yet throw BC back up and the fault. sid~~~chuckles at how stupid people are to still be stuck on Clinton, who at least didn't continue, time after time, tapping feet in men's rooms and chasing mistresses to Argentina, do. now this

wolfdancer
05-25-2010, 07:18 PM
lol

Sid_Vicious
05-25-2010, 07:45 PM
it is pathetic Wolf. sid

wolfdancer
05-25-2010, 08:30 PM
yeah, I wasn't laughing at the humor of it, but the irony.
How many of these born again Right wingers get caught later on with their hands in the cookie jar, or getting their cookies off where they ain'ts s'posed to?

Sid_Vicious
05-25-2010, 08:48 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yeah, I wasn't laughing at the humor of it, but the irony.
How many of these born again Right wingers get caught later on with their hands in the cookie jar, or getting their cookies off where they ain'ts s'posed to? </div></div>

Percentage-wise...about 1000% more than Bill Clinton. Nothing against gays here, yet, at least Bill was straight, like the Bible wants in their flock. All these anti-gay republicans rushing to the stalls in the public restrooms to play footsie with the next guy over...well, the right is kinda queer over all, according to Webster's definition.

Wiki: "Queer has traditionally meant odd or unusual, though modern use often pertains to LGBT (gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, intersex and non-normative heterosexual) people."

Thank God Bill Clinton was the poster child for hetero sexuality in the political arena. sid

wolfdancer
05-25-2010, 09:30 PM
Bill and JFK....with healthy libidos....they would get my vote over Winken, Blinken and Nod....Nixon, Reagan, Gwb

eg8r
05-26-2010, 07:10 AM
Well, this guy resigned (or is going to resign) because of the affair, he did not lie about it while under oath and cost the country millions of dollars. He put his tail between his legs, finally fessed up and out he will be going. Clinton lied to everyone while under oath, cost the taxpayers millions while he tried to keep telling the lie and then finally came out with the truth. At that point he still did not step down.

eg8r

eg8r
05-26-2010, 07:12 AM
Yeah, I don't really care to read about his escapades. He cheated on his wife. What more do you really need to know?

eg8r

LWW
05-26-2010, 08:09 AM
The hypocrisy, and ability to think in blackwhite, is in full rage again.

LWW

pooltchr
05-26-2010, 08:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sid_Vicious</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Percentage-wise...about 1000% more than Bill Clinton. </div></div>

You seem to be suggesting that BC was the only Dem fooling around...let's at least be honest. They abound on both sides of the aisle...in fact JFK was probably the best known cheater in the White House. John Edwards was no saint either. Do I need to go on?

People do not do a good job of being faithful. Note the use of the word "people". Democrats, Republicans, golfers, actors, teachers, lawyers, pool players.....it's not a political thing, it prevails throughout our society.

Steve

Steve

Gayle in MD
05-26-2010, 08:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bill and JFK....with healthy libidos....they would get my vote over Winken, Blinken and Nod....Nixon, Reagan, Gwb </div></div>

I thought winken blinken and Nod, was Palin and Laura! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Gayle in MD
05-26-2010, 08:38 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, this guy resigned (or is going to resign) because of the affair, he did not lie about it while under oath and cost the country millions of dollars. He put his tail between his legs, finally fessed up and out he will be going. Clinton lied to everyone while under oath, cost the taxpayers millions while he tried to keep telling the lie and then finally came out with the truth. At that point he still did not step down.

eg8r </div></div>

Ed,
The Republican Supreme Court, decided that it was OK for a citizen to sue a sitting president.

Republicans wasted a fortune, digging around in everything the Clinton's were ever involved in, and could find nothing but a little hanky panky with a willing adult woman.

Richard Clarke, our former counter terrorist czar, outlined quite well in his book, how the Republican shananigans throughout the Clinton Administration, impacted Bill Clinton's abilities to further his own policies for getting al Qaeda, and bin Laden.

Eisenhow had a mistress. Roosevelt had a misstress. Bush one had a mistress. Newt, Sanford, Kennedy, I'd say, both Republicans and Democratic MEN have had mistresses.

WTF is your point? Over the last ten years, we've seen more closeted gays outed, REPUBLICANNS, more falandering born again, family values guys, than any other party, ever!

Republicans wasted a fortune going after the Clinton's, and damaged our country, just as they are doing now, with their poor losers nastiness. Clinton didn't wast the money, Republicans did, obviously, since the charges did not rise to the level of impeachment! Stop lying about it. AND this man did lie, also. Most men do, except for the kind of guys who are virgins when they get married, LOL.... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

How many people do you think get on the stand and lie in a law suit?

How come none of Bush's outrageous lies seem to have caught your attention?

I look at damages to the country, and who presecuted most of them, and IMO, Republicans have torn this country apart for decades, and nearly every problem we face right now, is the result of Republican policies, from illegal aliens, to two wars in the Middle East, to the "Government IS the Problem" deregulation ideology, to the deregulatory republican policies which have made the world more dangerous ecologically, and in every other way, to breaking up the unions, and the impact on the middle class workers in this country, and I could go on and on.

I will NEVER vote for any Republican as long as I live, having watched their destruction on my country since I was old enough to watch the news with my Dad, and listen in on the political converstaion of my elders, I have seen nothing but disasters follow Republicans, and their nasty, devisive, illogical lies and BS.

You are wasting your time with the BS about Clinton. Republicans wasted a fortune, just like they always do, and Bill Clinton was the best president we had had since J.F. Kennedy.

G.

pooltchr
05-26-2010, 08:44 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I'd say, both Republicans and Democratic MEN have had mistresses.



G. </div></div>

Yes they do, and those mistresses are WOMEN who choose to cheat with married men, and quite possibly, married women. By capitalizing the word "men", you seem to suggest that it's only a problem with males. I guess Monica didn't know Bill was married?

We all know you hate men, but women are just as guilty of transgressions. Last time I checked, there is usually one of each involved in an affair.


Steve

Gayle in MD
05-26-2010, 08:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah, I don't really care to read about his escapades. He cheated on his wife. What more do you really need to know?.

eg8r </div></div>

Well then, he should be shot! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Grow up, Ed. It happens everyday, all over this country, and every other country, but when it happens to a Family Values Guy, colossal hypocrit who preaches a totally unrealistic load of BS like ONLY teaching abstinence to teenagers, it is a big story.

Face it, the more Republicans try to pretend that GOd is on their side, and everyone else is a socialst, nazi, evil lost soul, the more we're going to notice when their colossal hypocracy rares it's ugly head, AGAIN AND AGAIN!.

G.

pooltchr
05-26-2010, 08:53 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Face it, the more Republicans try to pretend that GOd is on their side, and everyone else is a socialst, nazi, evil lost soul, the more we're going to notice when their colossal hypocracy rares it's ugly head, AGAIN AND AGAIN!.

G. </div></div>

Alinsky's Rules for Radicals:

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."



Good job, Gayle...your party is proud of your efforts.

Steve

eg8r
05-26-2010, 09:48 AM
Why would you tell me to grow up. Aren't you the person that said a cheating spouse should be a family issue and be kept private, or is that only for Democrats who don't vow to do the right thing? Wolfie said he had a link that spelled out all his escapades and I said no thanks, I would not want to read it. He cheated why would I want to know the specifics?

Don't take this wrong but maybe you should just take a deep breath and actually try to understand what I am saying before jumping up on your perfect pedestal.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-26-2010, 09:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would you tell me to grow up. Aren't you the person that said a cheating spouse should be a family issue and be kept private, or is that only for Democrats who don't vow to do the right thing? Wolfie said he had a link that spelled out all his escapades and I said no thanks, I would not want to read it. He cheated why would I want to know the specifics?

Don't take this wrong but maybe you should just take a deep breath and actually try to understand what I am saying before jumping up on your perfect pedestal.

eg8r </div></div>

LOL, I don't have a perfect pedestal, my friend. I'm just asking you to understand that people aren't perfect, and those who claim to be, are often proven to be imperfect.

I think Republicans have made fools of themselves, pretending to have the franchise on family values, when even you have to admit, or atleast should admit, that we've seen far more falandering Repubs, over the last ten years, than Democratics....

Just noticing.
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G.

eg8r
05-26-2010, 10:32 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, I don't have a perfect pedestal, my friend. I'm just asking you to understand that people aren't perfect, and those who claim to be, are often proven to be imperfect.</div></div>OK, then tell me who claimed to be perfect?

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-26-2010, 12:02 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, I don't have a perfect pedestal, my friend. I'm just asking you to understand that people aren't perfect, and those who claim to be, are often proven to be imperfect.</div></div>OK, then tell me who claimed to be perfect?

eg8r </div></div>

I didn't, I think you accused me of having a perfect pedestal, right?

Are you going to deny that the Republlicans present themselves as having some sort of political franchise on family values?

I think it is human nature, to notice when a big family values, abstinence only, hypocrit, makes a video interview, with his mistress, while preaching abstinence only for teenagers...don't you?

Do you think any of you righties would be posting about it if it was the other party?

LOL....

eg8r
05-26-2010, 12:22 PM
You said that you were asking me to understand people are perfect and I never said anyone was. What the heck are you talking about?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you going to deny that the Republlicans present themselves as having some sort of political franchise on family values?</div></div>I disagree completely. I have never heard a Rep say they were the only ones with values. Maybe you could provide some examples.

Does the left refuse to list their family values so when they are caught breaking them the criticisms will be less?

eg8r

Deeman3
05-26-2010, 12:29 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bill and JFK....with healthy libidos....they would get my vote over Winken, Blinken and Nod....Nixon, Reagan, Gwb </div></div>

<span style="color: #FF0000">Yes, but how do you Falander? Is that a new position or something? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif</span>

pooltchr
05-26-2010, 01:57 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and those who claim to be, are often proven to be imperfect.</div></div>OK, then tell me who claimed to be perfect?

eg8r </div></div>

Gayle,
Ed quoted you making the statement about people who claimed to be perfect, and he asked you who claimed to be perfect?

Can't you even keep track of your own posts???????????

Steve

hondo
05-27-2010, 06:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bill and JFK....with healthy libidos....they would get my vote over Winken, Blinken and Nod....Nixon, Reagan, Gwb </div></div>

Now that's funny!

Gayle in MD
05-27-2010, 06:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You said that you were asking me to understand people are perfect and I never said anyone was. What the heck are you talking about?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you going to deny that the Republlicans present themselves as having some sort of political franchise on family values?</div></div>I disagree completely. I have never heard a Rep say they were the only ones with values. Maybe you could provide some examples.

Does the left refuse to list their family values so when they are caught breaking them the criticisms will be less?

eg8r </div></div>

Well my friend, it seems to me that after Clinton's transgression was exposed through the use of illegal recording by Linda Tripp, the Repubs introduced all of their "Family Values" BS, and all of their "talk" and that's all it was, too, about cleaning up the White HOuse, and if I recall, a certain porn magazine owner, exposed numerous affairs that the Republicans were having during the entire time they were all so outraged, over Clinton's affair.

Well, atleast we got rid of Gingrich....and a few others, but I must say, that since them, the Repubs have had the corner on the unfaithful market, along with the religious right. Do correct me if you think I'm wrong, but that seems to be the status of Republicans, so many of them have been crying about being sinners lately, while at the same time advocating for abstinence only education, well, forgive me if I have to laugh my but off watching them gett their comeuppance! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif After so many years of being Above It All, with all of their Christian Family Values BS...

As for the press, yes, I have said many times, and still believe, that it was far better for our country when the press respected family privacy, and stayed out of such issues between any husband and wife's personal, private business. I've always said that....but that time is gone, and now it's anything and everything, is exposed. I suppose in this age of technology, people just better watch their asses, huh?

G.

G.

pooltchr
05-27-2010, 07:00 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> the Repubs have had the corner on the unfaithful market,
G. </div></div>

Two words.....John Edwards



Steve

eg8r
05-27-2010, 12:00 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clinton's transgression was exposed through the use of illegal recording by Linda Tripp</div></div>He left his semen on the dress, that is hardly illegal. As far as Clinton's affair, it probably would have all gone away if he had just owned up to it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that since them, the Repubs have had the corner on the unfaithful market</div></div>You are right, all the Dems are innocent except Edwards of course but you didn't really like him anyways.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">while at the same time advocating for abstinence only education</div></div>Who is advocating this? Names please and examples of them actually saying those words.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As for the press, yes, I have said many times, and still believe, that it was far better for our country when the press respected family privacy, and stayed out of such issues between any husband and wife's personal, private business. I've always said that....but that time is gone, and now it's anything and everything, is exposed. I suppose in this age of technology, people just better watch their asses, huh?</div></div>I guess they should and the reason is that there are too many people like you that just sway in whatever direction the wind is flowing. When the info is harder to get you are OK with it staying private. If the info is easily had then you propogate it like crazy and completely ignore your previous rigid stance on the same subject.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-27-2010, 12:41 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clinton's transgression was exposed through the use of illegal recording by Linda Tripp</div></div>He left his semen on the dress, that is hardly illegal. As far as Clinton's affair, it probably would have all gone away if he had just owned up to it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that since them, the Repubs have had the corner on the unfaithful market</div></div>You are right, all the Dems are innocent except Edwards of course but you didn't really like him anyways.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">while at the same time advocating for abstinence only education</div></div>Who is advocating this? Names please and examples of them actually saying those words.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As for the press, yes, I have said many times, and still believe, that it was far better for our country when the press respected family privacy, and stayed out of such issues between any husband and wife's personal, private business. I've always said that....but that time is gone, and now it's anything and everything, is exposed. I suppose in this age of technology, people just better watch their asses, huh?</div></div>I guess they should and the reason is that there are too many people like you that just sway in whatever direction the wind is flowing. When the info is harder to get you are OK with it staying private. If the info is easily had then you propogate it like crazy and completely ignore your previous rigid stance on the same subject.

eg8r </div></div>

First of all, Ed, I am amazed by your words in this answer. Are you saying that you haven't seen the video of the Republican "Abstinence only King," made WITH his mistress, she asking him questions about his abstinence stance, and beliefs, in an interview, which was filmed while he was actually having an affair with her, his own aide?

I thought everyone would have seen that by now. I'll find it for you though....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess they should and the reason is that there are too many people like you that just sway in whatever direction the wind is flowing.

<span style="color: #000066">LOL, I can't believe you'd say that. I haven't really changed my original position on the subject, at all. I think that over the years, I've been very consistant in my beliefs, and in my preferences. I don't have control over what reporters reveal, and no one who knows me, would think of me as easily swayed from my convictions. Perhaps, you are just trying to get a rise out of me, with that accusation?</span>



When the info is harder to get you are OK with it staying private.

<span style="color: #000066">I didn't say that, I said that I think it was much better for the country, when the press was content to stick with their generations old gentleman's agreement, so to speak, and avoid delving into gossip, or reporting it, when it has to do with a President's private sexual life. </span>


If the info is easily had then you propogate it like crazy and completely ignore your previous rigid stance on the same subject.
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<span style="color: #000066">Propagate??? LOL... </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> propagate | verb
Main Entry: propagate !pr@-pu-+gAt
Pronunciation: \ ˈprä-pə-ˌgāt \
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): prop·a·gat·ed, prop·a·gat·ing,
Etymology: Latin propagatus, past participle of propagare to set slips, propagate, from propages slip, offspring, from pro- before + pangere to fasten - More at - pro-, pact
Date: circa 1570
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transitive verb
circa 1570
1. 1to cause to continue or increase by sexual or asexual reproduction

2. 2to pass along to offspring

3 a. 3 ato cause to spread out and affect a greater number or greater area : extendb. bto foster growing knowledge of, familiarity with, or acceptance of (as an idea or belief) : publicizec. cto transmit (as sound or light) through a mediumintransitive verb

intransitive verb
1. 1to multiply sexually or asexually

2. 2increase extend

3. 3to travel through space or a material - used of wave energy (as light, sound, or radio waves)
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<span style="color: #000066">I hardly think a post about the subject of another falandering Republican, would fit with your accusation. How many people do you think are reading this obscure little forum?

I think that like you, and like everyone else here, this forum is anything but pool, hence, one thread does not equal any kind of broad propagation. I think that my post is far from propagating a story which has already been on the National and International news stations and news papers, for over a week. I am surprised, though, that you haven't seen the clip.

G.</span>

Gayle in MD
05-27-2010, 12:59 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clinton's transgression was exposed through the use of illegal recording by Linda Tripp</div></div>He left his semen on the dress, that is hardly illegal. As far as Clinton's affair, it probably would have all gone away if he had just owned up to it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that since them, the Repubs have had the corner on the unfaithful market</div></div>You are right, all the Dems are innocent except Edwards of course but you didn't really like him anyways.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">while at the same time advocating for abstinence only education</div></div>Who is advocating this? Names please and examples of them actually saying those words.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As for the press, yes, I have said many times, and still believe, that it was far better for our country when the press respected family privacy, and stayed out of such issues between any husband and wife's personal, private business. I've always said that....but that time is gone, and now it's anything and everything, is exposed. I suppose in this age of technology, people just better watch their asses, huh?</div></div>I guess they should and the reason is that there are too many people like you that just sway in whatever direction the wind is flowing.


/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif<span style="color: #000066"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>LOL, really? I had no idea that I had tht kind of power! I would have guessed that the American Press, had far more sway as regards which people who are running around on their own wives, husbands or ideologies, would have far more power than me. LMAO!</span> </span>


When the info is harder to get you are OK with it staying private. If the info is easily had then you propogate it like crazy and completely ignore your previous rigid stance on the same subject.

eg8r </div></div>

<span style="color: #000066">I don't recall ever having a rigid stance about this subject, just an opinion, like we all have about nearly everything....I think you just don't like the fact that one of your Abstinence Only Heroes, just proved hiimself to bejust another weak sinner, whining and crying in front of the whole country, over his own inability to abstain....lol. </span>

Rep. Mark Souder (R-IN) had an affair with a part-time staffer named Tracy Jackson, Fox is reporting. Jackson played the role of interviewer for a Souder Web video show on the issues of the day -- including one on the value of abstinence.

Dubbed "Congressional Update with Congressman Mark Souder," the show hit on issues like intelligent design and fencing the border.

[TPM SLIDESHOW: Conservative Sex Scandals]

In the November 2009 abstinence video, Jackson introduces Souder this way: "You've been a longtime advocate for abstinence education and in 2006 you had your staff conduct a report entitled 'Abstinence and its Critics' which discredits many claims purveyed by those who oppose abstinence education."

Watch:

Souder announced today he is resigning effective Friday. According to Legistorm, Jackson first came on Souder's payroll in late 2004 with the title "Special Assistant/Communications."

TPMmuckraker's full Souder coverage is here.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.co...on_abstinen.ph p (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/rep_souder_and_mistress_recorded_video_on_abstinen .php)

eg8r
05-27-2010, 01:08 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First of all, Ed, I am amazed by your words in this answer. Are you saying that you haven't seen the video of the Republican "Abstinence only King," made WITH his mistress, she asking him questions about his abstinence stance, and beliefs, in an interview, which was filmed while he was actually having an affair with her, his own aide?</div></div>So this guy is the end all be all for any person including abstinence into their speech? Why lump everyone into one pot? Is it easier to criticize them that way?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, I can't believe you'd say that. I haven't really changed my original position on the subject, at all. I think that over the years, I've been very consistant in my beliefs, and in my preferences. I don't have control over what reporters reveal, and no one who knows me, would think of me as easily swayed from my convictions. </div></div>You just are not used to people standing up to you. You will get used to it. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif It is hard to believe you have been consistent in your beliefs about keeping this information private when you do your darndest to post these types of issues. Just because a reporter reveals the info you should not feel compelled to propogate the info.

I am pleased to see you are expanding your vocabulary. Propagation is a very common word in the tech industry, not sure about print industry. I guess we are more comfortable with the venacular of our environments. Glad you learned something new today.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think that like you, and like everyone else here, this forum is anything but pool, hence, one thread does not equal any kind of broad propagation.</div></div>Why are you adding words? I did not say "broad propagation" anywhere. Also, you very seldom keep anything to one post. Most of the time you will repeat your mantra across many posts in a day. Also, one post can be archived and read for years and years from now allowing an infinite number of people to come by and read if they so choose.

I definitely have not seen the clip. I also don't believe that one person is the defining proof that all speeches mentioning abstinence deem abstinence as the only subject matter being suggested. Now it is the only option that works 100% of the time but agree it is hard to control teenagers when they are alone with the love of their life.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-27-2010, 01:13 PM
<span style="color: #000066">LOL, apparently, it's not only hard for teenagers, but hard for grown married, Republican Abstinence Only Advocates, as well. </span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

wolfdancer
05-27-2010, 01:24 PM
anatomically it is very difficult, and requires the same training and dedication one must undergo, to master the "variations on a theme", positions found in Dr. Ruth's revised edition of the Kama Sutra.
To really master all of them...it would help if one was a member of the Cirque Du Soleil
I advise against trying the coupling that involves swinging on a chandelier......

Gayle in MD
05-27-2010, 02:02 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I definitely have not seen the clip. </div></div>

I was editing the post while you were responding. It, the clip, is now in my response to you, above.

G.

pooltchr
05-27-2010, 03:24 PM
Gayle, How can you, on one hand, claim you believe a politicians sex life should be private, and yet jump on here and put up a new thread about a politician's alledged affair?

Steve

wolfdancer
05-27-2010, 05:20 PM
I just think of it as practice what you preach. While some on one side claim to have God whispering into their ear.....I am always reminded of the saying:
"power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely"
or....."power corrupts those who possess it"
There ain't no saints on either side....we just get a few more table scraps thrown to us by the Democrats, then the Republicans, who's motto is "let them eat cake"

wolfdancer
05-27-2010, 05:48 PM
I just looked at the message list....and my daily post count is getting as bad as lww's.
Time for a long break, I think....
But in the immortal words of MacArthur..."I shall return"
Try and keep the troops "entertained"( on edge) while I am on my Sabbatical.....and if you see some fool dressed as Rambo lurking around your house with a stun pistol....shoot first and ask questions later....lol

hondo
05-27-2010, 07:11 PM
Why not?
Since when have any of the Righties ever been fair and balanced? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

hondo
05-27-2010, 07:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just looked at the message list....and my daily post count is getting as bad as lww's.
Time for a long break, I think....
But in the immortal words of MacArthur..."I shall return"
Try and keep the troops "entertained"( on edge) while I am on my Sabbatical.....and if you see some fool dressed as Rambo lurking around your house with a stun pistol....shoot first and ask questions later....lol </div></div>


NO, WOLFIE, NOOOOOOOOO!

pooltchr
05-27-2010, 07:43 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why not?
Since when have any of the Righties ever been fair and balanced? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>

If you really want to know, you can do some research. You will find many posts during the Bush administration where Ed, DeeMan, and myself, among others, spoke out against the fiscal policies of the past president.

I can't help it if Obama, Nancy, Harry, and friends have given us so much to talk about lately! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

My problem is that the left keeps giving Obama a pass, blaming everything on Bush. If anyone has been partisan to the extreme, it has been the lefties around here. When have the (radical) lefties on here ever admitted that Obama has made some huge mistakes?

When Katrina hit, all we heard was about the failure of Bush to immediately fix everything. Forget the fact that people in New Orleans were told by their own mayor that if a major hurricane ever hit the city, they would be on their own. Have any of you even questioned Obama's handling of the oil spill in the gulf? No, you are too busy blaming Bush and BP.

When has anyone from the left jumped on here to post a story about an "alledged" affair by a Democrat?

Has anyone from the left ever admitted that Clinton lied under oath? Or why he didn't put Jummy Carter's solar panels back on the White House?

Face it. The left has been in control of Washington for almost a year an a half, and congress for two years before that. Yet, the lefties have nothing but good to say about them. They still want to blame the last president for everything that goes wrong, while not even making an attempt to hold this president accountable for anything.

Is that "fair and balanced"?

Steve

hondo
05-27-2010, 08:20 PM
Steve, you don't see me posting about affairs, period.
I mainly get annoyed when some politician who is always railing about fags gets caught with a big one down his throat and almost always it's some "Christian" Republican. Right?

hondo
05-27-2010, 08:22 PM
And I could care less whether somebody is straight, gay, bi, or tri.
I just hate hypocrites.

pooltchr
05-27-2010, 08:32 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And I could care less whether somebody is straight, gay, bi, or tri.
I just hate hypocrites. </div></div>

On that, we can totally agree.

Steve

hondo
05-27-2010, 09:10 PM
Thank you,Steve.

wolfdancer
05-27-2010, 10:14 PM
would this be an example of "Tri" ?

http://blog.beliefnet.com/onecity/Planet-of-the-Apes-Photograph-C11797467.jpeg

hondo
05-28-2010, 03:51 AM
http://www.bachelorettepartydolls.com/inflatable-sheep-doll.html

pooltchr
05-28-2010, 07:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">would this be an example of "Tri" ?

http://blog.beliefnet.com/onecity/Planet-of-the-Apes-Photograph-C11797467.jpeg </div></div>

Family reunion pic???????

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Steve

eg8r
05-28-2010, 09:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Republican Supreme Court, decided that it was OK for a citizen to sue a sitting president.</div></div>Does the Constitution not allow this? Are you more aware of the law of the land and all precendents than the Supreme Court?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WTF is your point?</div></div>My point is real simple and I will not have to use nearly as much hot air as you did in your rant. Simple enough, Clinton did not have the balls to fess up until untold millions were spent proving him a liar while under oath in the court of law. This guy at least has the balls to step down.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are wasting your time with the BS about Clinton. </div></div>I know, you already have your head in the sand and any perfectly clear comparison is moot with you because you are unwilling to listen to reason.

You are making fun of this guy for making a mistake and I am thanking him for admitting to his mistake. That is the difference between you and I. You are constantly on attack mode and Dems can do no wrong.

eg8r

pooltchr
05-28-2010, 09:18 AM
[quote=eg8r]<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You are making fun of this guy for making a mistake and I am thanking him for admitting to his mistake. That is the difference between you and I. You are constantly on attack mode and Dems can do no wrong.

eg8r </div></div>

You sure hit the nail on the head that time!!!

Steve

Gayle in MD
05-28-2010, 09:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Republican Supreme Court, decided that it was OK for a citizen to sue a sitting president.</div></div>Does the Constitution not allow this? Are you more aware of the law of the land and all precendents than the Supreme Court?

<span style="color: #000066">Did I say that? No, I didn't. Here is one of those times when you don't rememmber how the whole thing went down, yet you write something that is completely illogical, twisting as you go. You do this all the time. </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WTF is your point?</div></div>My point is real simple and I will not have to use nearly as much hot air as you did in your rant.

<span style="color: #000066">Ed's definition of a rant, any thing anyone writes, that he doesn't agree with. </span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif



Simple enough, Clinton did not have the balls to fess up until untold millions were spent proving him a liar while under oath in the court of law. This guy at least has the balls to step down.


<span style="color: #000066">LMAO! This guy has been far more hypocritical than Clinton EVER was.....preaching abstinence to teens, while he was banging his aide???? What is worse?


Add to that, you don't notice Bush One, who refused to answer any questions, at all, about his mistress?

Ensign?

Sanford? Neither have resigned.

Where is your own rant after W. admitted he had lied about his DWI?

Where is your outrage over the sixteen words W. used to send our kids to war, and scare America with lies, exploiting the disaster of 9/11, repeating incorrect intel, inelligence, that he KNEW was wrong, and hence had to delete it from his SOTU address? See, two can play this game Ed. </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are wasting your time with the BS about Clinton. </div></div>I know, you already have your head in the sand and any perfectly clear comparison is moot with you because you are unwilling to listen to reason.

<span style="color: #000066">Ed's definition of reason, is whatever he needs to think for the sake of his party?

Every sentence from you so far has included one of your digs. When will you ever learn to debate without them?

Here's a clear comparison for you, nobody died when Clinton lied. </span>

You are making fun of this guy for making a mistake and I am thanking him for admitting to his mistake.

<span style="color: #000066">LMAO, he lied. You pull up Clinton everytime a Republican is caught.

This guy didn't admit to anything until he was caught, just like Clinton, and probably 99% of all, male and female, who are unfaithful, handle it the same way.

The differrence is, this guy presented himself as an authority on ABSTINENCE, WHILE he was screwing around. Clinton didn't do that....</span>

That is the difference between you and I. You are constantly on attack mode and Dems can do no wrong.

eg8r </div></div>

How many posts have you written praising Democratics? How many condemning Republicans. Reverse that, and I win.
Just look into my "Bravo" posts, and you will find that I expressed my approval, and disapproval, regardless of the party, and do so far more than annyone here....

You defend every single bad thing about anything that any Repub does, by trying to compare it to Clinton, or attacking anyonne who writes about it.

Show me one post, just one, where you launched a thread, to praise any Democratic, or condemn a Republican. Just one! None of you can do that.

I can....



G. [/color]

pooltchr
05-28-2010, 10:05 AM
I will admit that you have occasionally tossed out a compliment toward a Republican who leans to the left, or supported your views.

I think a few of us were pleased with the actions of some Democrats who had the stones to stand up against Obama/Nancy/Harry when they were pulling their underhanded stunts in their effort to ram through the HC bill.

If you didn't ignore so many people, you would have known that.

Steve

eg8r
05-28-2010, 10:33 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ed's definition of a rant, any thing anyone writes, that he doesn't agree with. </div></div>Yesterday you had no idea what the word propagation meant but you took the initiative to look it up. I was proud of you, but now it appears you refuse to go the extra mile and learn what a rant is.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LMAO! This guy has been far more hypocritical than Clinton EVER was.....preaching abstinence to teens, while he was banging his aide???? What is worse? </div></div>I said Clinton did not have the balls, I did not say hypocritical. Are you changing the words on purpose? Do you want to look up the definition on strawman while you have the dictionary open on your lap?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where is your own rant after W. admitted he had lied about his DWI?</div></div>I don't rant, that is your game.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where is your outrage over the sixteen words W. used to send our kids to war, and scare America with lies, exploiting the disaster of 9/11, repeating incorrect intel, inelligence, that he KNEW was wrong, and hence had to delete it from his SOTU address? See, two can play this game Ed. </div></div>Which game are you playing? I think going to war was the right thing to do and I am glad we did and Saddam is no longer in control. He did the right thing.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Every sentence from you so far has included one of your digs. When will you ever learn to debate without them?</div></div>Please give an example of you actually debating anything in the past 5 years.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's a clear comparison for you, nobody died when Clinton lied. </div></div>Maybe you forgot the subject matter of this thread. You are the one referring to W in these comparisons but I don't remember W having a problem with infidelity. Again, Clinton had no balls. If you want to compare Clinton to W you can, Clinton went golfing and allowed bin laden to live, W bombed him out of his country and into the mountains.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LMAO, he lied. You pull up Clinton everytime a Republican is caught.</div></div>I bring him up when you blast the Rep for cheating and then stepping down and I kindly remind you Clinton did not have the balls to step down. Heck he even wasted millions of taxpayer money lying under oath in the court of law.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How many posts have you written praising Democratics? </div></div>I have posted plenty of times about the good things Zell Miller stood for and Joe Lieberman. Why should I have to hunt down examples when you allowed "ignorance through ignore" to lead the way?

BTW, you are missing your "open color" tag.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-28-2010, 05:02 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ed's definition of a rant, any thing anyone writes, that he doesn't agree with. </div></div>Yesterday you had no idea what the word propagation meant

<span style="color: #000066"><span style='font-size: 11pt'>No, you didn't know what it meant.I was trying to give you the definition, since you obviously didn't know the meaning of the word, and mis-applied it to my "Comment" about a huge news story, PROPAGATED by the media, which has been in all forms of media, for weeks, and which you knew nothing about.</span> </span>

but you took the initiative to look it up. I was proud of you, but now it appears you refuse to go the extra mile and learn what a rant is.

<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Well, you should be, I surely didn't want you to spend the rest of your life, mis-useing the word, "Propagate" </span> </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LMAO! This guy has been far more hypocritical than Clinton EVER was.....preaching abstinence to teens, while he was banging his aide???? What is worse? </div></div>



I said Clinton did not have the balls, I did not say hypocritical.

<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>OIC, so then we do agree after all that this Republican was being supremely hypocritical to be preaching abstinence, while banging his girlfrien/aide?. </span> </span>

Are you changing the words on purpose? Do you want to look up the definition on strawman while you have the dictionary open on your lap?


<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>I really should, for you sake, because that is the word that best describes your posting methods. </span> </span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where is your own rant after W. admitted he had lied about his DWI?</div></div>I don't rant, that is your game.

<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>so, you had no problem then about any of Bush's many documented lies? that's what I thought. </span> </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where is your outrage over the sixteen words W. used to send our kids to war, and scare America with lies, exploiting the disaster of 9/11, repeating incorrect intel, inelligence, that he KNEW was wrong, and hence had to delete it from his SOTU address? See, two can play this game Ed. </div></div>Which game are you playing?

<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>So Bush's many lies, and untrue insinuations, which he used to launch war in Iraq, didn't bother you at all? </span> </span>



I think going to war was the right thing to do and I am glad we did and Saddam is no longer in control. He did the right thing.

<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>So all the lies he told to the American People, to justify invading Iraq, were OK with you, then? </span> </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Every sentence from you so far has included one of your digs. When will you ever learn to debate without them?</div></div>Please give an example of you actually debating anything in the past 5 years.


<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Another dig.... </span> </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's a clear comparison for you, nobody died when Clinton lied. </div></div>Maybe you forgot the subject matter of this thread. You are the one referring to W in these comparisons but I don't remember W having a problem with infidelity.

<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Yeah, W. was just a coke head and a drunk, and proved for eight years that if his lips were moving, he was lying. </span> </span>


Again, Clinton had no balls. If you want to compare Clinton to W you can, Clinton went golfing and allowed bin laden to live, W bombed him out of his country and into the mountains.

<span style="color: #000066">No, W. went golfing, while lying and saying he couldn't play golf while our soldiers were dying in Iraq. </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LMAO, he lied. You pull up Clinton everytime a Republican is caught.</div></div>I bring him up when you blast the Rep for cheating and then stepping down and I kindly remind you Clinton did not have the balls to step down.

<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Clinton did not commit treason, W. did that. </span> </span>



Heck he even wasted millions of taxpayer money lying under oath in the court of law.


<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>The republicans wasted multi millions for YEARS, digging for dirt, and against the wishes of 97% of Americans, who said they didn't care. The finding was that it was not an impeachable offense, proof it was a waste of time, and money, which Richard Clarke, our former counter Terrorist CZAR, who voted Republican, for Bush SR., stated in his book, hurt the efforts to get bin Laden, REPUBLICANS
CONSTANT DIGGING FOR DIRT, HURT CLINTON'S COUNTER TERRORISM EFFORTS...

While W.'s decision, was called the worst foreign policy decision in our history, by five former Secretaries of state, from both parties. </span> </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How many posts have you written praising Democratics? </div></div>I have posted plenty of times about the good things Zell Miller stood for and Joe Lieberman. Why should I have to hunt down examples when you allowed "ignorance through ignore" to lead the way?

BTW, you are missing your "open color" tag.

eg8r </div></div>


<span style="color: #000066"><span style='font-size: 11pt'>Joe Lieberman is not a Democratic, he's an Independent, and you are skipping the subject, AGAIN! You can't pull up one single post of praise for any modern Democratic, not one. This thread was about a hypocrit, a RW hypocrite, who liled, got caught, and decided to resign, in order to protect his family from all of the digging around, and exposure, that would surely come along. Kind of like Palin did.

It isn't a thread about Bill Clinton. And, how about the list of Republicans, caught, proven to be hypocrits, and who refuse to resign???? It's a pretty long list...if you count all of the closeted gay men.

G.</span></span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

pooltchr
05-28-2010, 05:40 PM
I believe I can recall Ed speaking very highly of JFK...as have many of us. Of course, if he were alive today, the Dems would probably crusify him for being too conservative!

Steve

wolfdancer
05-28-2010, 09:48 PM
I try to keep people's families out of the petty crap that is posted here...but you don't seem to have any such respectful limits, as your main goal is to insult others who won't buy into your way of thinking...

eg8r
05-29-2010, 06:31 AM
Great, so we agree that is was good of you to look up propagate, you still don't know what rant is and you are choosing to change the subject.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Joe Lieberman is not a Democratic, he's an Independent</div></div>Stop the petty act where you act like you don't know what the heck is going on. Lieberman was a democrat and when he was I posted nice things about him. Zell Miller was a Democrat and I posted nice things to say about him. You chose the ignorant by ignore option many times and it is your own freaking fault that you don't have a clue what was posted on this forum.

eg8r

LWW
05-29-2010, 06:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe I can recall Ed speaking very highly of JFK...as have many of us. Of course, if he were alive today, the Dems would probably crusify him for being too conservative!

Steve </div></div>

The left idolizes the man ... solely because they are told to idolize him ... even though he was to the right of Ronald Reagan.

OTOH ... they idolize Lincoln, for the same reason they idolize JFK, who jailed reporters who wrote against him, issued an arrest warrant for the CJ of the SCOTUS, shuttered the free press, jailed political opponents, and authorized the largest war crime in US history.

At the same time they worship FDR who ordered crops burned and cattle slaughtered while citizens were starving as a price support for his backers, jailed several hundred thousand citizens without cause, appointed a klansman to the SCOTUS, put the media under state control. and was de facto the first US fascist PORTUS.

LWW

Gayle in MD
05-29-2010, 08:05 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great, so we agree that is was good of you to look up propagate, you still don't know what rant is and you are choosing to change the subject.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Joe Lieberman is not a Democratic, he's an Independent</div></div>Stop the petty act where you act like you don't know what the heck is going on. Lieberman was a democrat and when he was I posted nice things about him. Zell Miller was a Democrat and I posted nice things to say about him. You chose the ignorant by ignore option many times and it is your own freaking fault that you don't have a clue what was posted on this forum.

eg8r </div></div>


I read the BS for years, along with the petty insults, and disgusting comments, racist, homophobic, misogynistic, you name it, now, we have a whole new ragne of AZB sicko's around here these days, and a few left over from before they got here....

I don't really care what people who attack documented facts, think, or have to say about much of anything....as far as politics go.

When someone tries to defend the actions of a liar, like Bush, who brought about the loss of over four thousand young Americans, and many more ruined in the true sense, who sent them to fight a war, on lies, and for the enrichment of his corporate crony contractors, and the military Industrial Complex, all to get one damned man, then I know there's no point in reading their BS.....

then, if they turn right around and try to compare all of that to a lie about a BJ, well, suffice it to say, they're pretty much off my radar, by then....

Removing the ignorant, the angry uninformed, from one's scope of attention, makes more room for learning the facts, not less....

I know the posters whose posts are worth reading around here. Reading all of your sarcastic attacks, aren't on my top list of things to do, although I enjoy your posts about your children...and think you have some good qualities, your political opinions do not rise to my level of documentation, nor common sense. I'm not trying to insult you, but that's how I feel....

G.

pooltchr
05-29-2010, 08:41 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Removing the ignorant, the angry uninformed, from one's scope of attention, makes more room for learning the facts, not less....

</div></div>

Your words....and you probably should take them to heart yourself.

Steve

Qtec
05-29-2010, 10:41 AM
Lieberman is a snake in the grass, no wonder you like him.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 20pt'>Sounding more like an independent than a Democrat, </span>Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn. , tells ABC News he will campaign for some Republican candidates during the 2010 midterm elections and may not seek the Democratic Senate nomination when he runs for re-election in 2012.
ABC's Jonathan Karl chats with Sen. Joe Lieberman on the Capitol Hill subway.

"I probably will support some Republican candidates for Congress or Senate in the election in 2010. I'm going to call them as I see them," </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lieberman infuriated fellow Democrats in 2008 by supporting Republican presidential nominee John McCain as well as congressional candidates Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine , and Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.

The moves nearly cost Lieberman his chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee, but after promising to be a loyal Democrat he was allowed to keep his gavel. </div></div>

The guy is slime.

Q

pooltchr
05-29-2010, 11:53 AM
But y'all loved him when he was a Democrat!

Steve

hondo
05-29-2010, 11:59 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">would this be an example of "Tri" ?

http://blog.beliefnet.com/onecity/Planet-of-the-Apes-Photograph-C11797467.jpeg </div></div>

Family reunion pic???????

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Steve </div></div>

Nope. Just a heated moment at the annual NRA picnic.

Gayle in MD
05-29-2010, 12:16 PM
<span style="color: #000066">BWA HA HA HA! That was really a good one! </span>

wolfdancer
05-29-2010, 07:33 PM
I see your usual "camp follower" tried to "pile on" probably with some more trash talking.
Glad that you have him on ignore....gladder still that you don't respond to his personal attack posts.

Gayle in MD
05-29-2010, 08:08 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see your usual "camp follower" tried to "pile on" probably with some more trash talking.
Glad that you have him on ignore....gladder still that you don't respond to his personal attack posts. </div></div>

It's not difficult to ignore people once you realize their nasty intentions. Comes natural, to me.

Thanks for the good wishes, friend.

G.

pooltchr
05-29-2010, 08:12 PM
Just wondering if you have any purpose in life other than to stir up crap around here. When was the last time you posted anything that was about the topic being discussed, and not about the people on the board?

Steve

eg8r
05-29-2010, 08:39 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lieberman is a snake in the grass, no wonder you like him.</div></div>I get it, you are foolish and don't like hiding it. A dem leaves the party and you think they are a snake. A rep leaves the party and you think they are a genius. The only common here is your party-line idiocy.

eg8r

wolfdancer
05-29-2010, 09:09 PM
Bu, but...my doctoral thesis that I am working on is about people. To paraphrase the line in the Color of Money.....You study politics...I study you
You think that your non stop personal attacks on others....does not stir the pot here?
Complain to the admin.....see if you can get me tossed.

hondo
05-30-2010, 05:24 AM
Sure he can. You're on the wrong side of the fence.

Gayle in MD
05-30-2010, 05:53 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lieberman is a snake in the grass, no wonder you like him.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 20pt'>Sounding more like an independent than a Democrat, </span>Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn. , tells ABC News he will campaign for some Republican candidates during the 2010 midterm elections and may not seek the Democratic Senate nomination when he runs for re-election in 2012.
ABC's Jonathan Karl chats with Sen. Joe Lieberman on the Capitol Hill subway.

"I probably will support some Republican candidates for Congress or Senate in the election in 2010. I'm going to call them as I see them," </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lieberman infuriated fellow Democrats in 2008 by supporting Republican presidential nominee John McCain as well as congressional candidates Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine , and Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.

The moves nearly cost Lieberman his chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee, but after promising to be a loyal Democrat he was allowed to keep his gavel. </div></div>

The guy is slime.

Q </div></div>

I never liked Lieberman. It didn't surprise me when he became such a blatant turncoat. The Dems should have taken away his position. I could never understand Gore choosing him as a runniing mate. I always thought that hurt Gore.
G.

Gayle in MD
05-30-2010, 05:59 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sure he can. You're on the wrong side of the fence. </div></div>

That's the truth. They really should post two sets of rules. One for the left, and another set for the right.

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pooltchr
05-30-2010, 06:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Complain to the admin.....see if you can get me tossed. </div></div>

That's not my style...and probably not necessary. Much like Gayle, I suspect that given enough time and enough rope, you will probably manage it all on your own.

Steve

hondo
05-30-2010, 08:54 AM
I believe you, but it's your buddy's style.
I would be very surprised if I ever get back on AZ.

wolfdancer
05-30-2010, 02:43 PM
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eg8r
06-01-2010, 07:38 AM
Do you go against your own beliefs just because someone else did? Steve is not comparing his own actions, he is asking about Gayle's decision to tell everyone that private actions should be kept private and then she goes and posts links about those very same private actions.

eg8r

eg8r
06-01-2010, 07:42 AM
Steve's post was to Gayle and she appears to be acting hypocritically. She hated all the mention of Clinton's affairs and constantly railed that it should be kept private yet she is first to mention any affairs by a Rep. I get it, she wants to prove the Reps have affairs also. We all know this but when she rants on and on about how it should be kept private and then she herself does the very same thing, what else would you call it?

eg8r

pooltchr
06-01-2010, 08:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I would be very surprised if I ever get back on AZ. </div></div>

Considering all the abuse you claim to be subjected to over there, why would you want to????

Steve

pooltchr
06-01-2010, 08:05 AM
At least somebody is actually paying attention. They have a hard time seeing their own hypocracy.

Steve

Gayle in MD
06-01-2010, 09:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve's post was to Gayle and she appears to be acting hypocritically. She hated all the mention of Clinton's affairs and constantly railed that it should be kept private yet she is first to mention any affairs by a Rep. I get it, she wants to prove the Reps have affairs also. We all know this but when she rants on and on about how it should be kept private and then she herself does the very same thing, what else would you call it?

eg8r </div></div>

That is a total boatload of Crap, Ed. I have never tried to justify what Bill Clinton did, never.

You and your rightie nutjobs are just as biased as anyone else on here, just not very informed.

I have said that in the old days, when the press respected a public man's privacy, and by virtue of that, whatever woman he was involved with, it was better for our country. We didn't get idstracted by people like the Gingrish Republicans, from dedaling with more importatn issues, just because they cannot lose elections like gentlemen.

Affairs were always known about by people who were out and about in Washington D.C., the news just never got to the flyover states. Everyone in Washington D.C&gt; know about Bush SR.'s mistress, that's why he refused to answer questions about it, like Father, like Son.

Those who were among Washington's social circle, always knew.

That goes all the way back to Thomas Jefferson!


I sign on here everyday, and see the titles of post titles attacking Democratics, and the Democratic president, and there is not one person here as honest as I am about my own BIAS.

THAT SHOULD be absolutely clear by now. I am against all Republican Policies. AND, those of you who trash Democratics, non stop, will have to grow up and realize that all of the bullying in the world, all of the insults in the world, and all of your personal attacks, will NEVER stop me from pointing out the outrageous, illegal, dishonest, incompetent, un-American, greedy, sneaky, corrupt nature of the Republican Party, and particularly the REAGAN/BUSH/BUSH administrations.

I will write about every damn holier than thou, "Family Values" Republican "Christian" hypocrit who takes his dick out of his pants, and puts it where he has no business putting it, until the day I die. Interestingly enough, I also condemn any Liberal, or Democratic man, in the same way, for the same thing.

I did not create the current practices of the press. Your entire thesis in this personal attack, is absurd.

There is no lie in saying that I think the country would have been better off without the press constantly delving into the private sexual lives of our leaders, and there is no lie in writing about them when they have been exposed by the press.

However, Your effort to compare Bush sending our troops to war on lies, with Bill Clinton lyiing in a private law suit, about his private sexual encounters, is absolutely insane.

YOU are the hypocrits. You righties think you have a right to trash every single post that exposes Republicans for bad behavior, and at the same time, personally attack with a vengence anyone who posts anything that exposes your party for their own immorality.

Get used to it, BECAUSE THERE ARE A HELLOVA LOT MORE SEXUALLY F-ED UP CHRISTIAN HYPOCRITS OUT THERE, THAN THERE ARE OF ANY OTHER GROUP, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THE CATHOLIC PRIESTS!

You have two sets of standards....so don't go around calling me a liar, or a hypocrite, when I have made it prefectly clear that I can't stand the Republican Party, and for damned good reasons!


You, Steve, Little Wonkie, and a few others around here, cannot stand Liberals, only you pretend to be above partisanship.

YOU ARE THE LIARS! NOT ME!
G.

pooltchr
06-01-2010, 09:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[
Those who were among Washington's social circle, always knew.


I will write about every damn holier than thou, "Family Values" Republican "Christian" hypocrit who takes his dick out of his pants, and puts it where he has no business putting it, until the day I die.
</div></div>

You just lost all credibility for your relentless complaining about anything you claim to be offensive that anyone posts here.
But I suspect you will fail to see your own hypocracy once again.


Steve

eg8r
06-01-2010, 12:10 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is a total boatload of Crap, Ed. I have never tried to justify what Bill Clinton did, never.
</div></div>I did not say you were trying to justify it. You ONLY intent is to prove that Reps do it also as if we acted like they never did. You then post private affairs (as defined by you) of all Reps right after telling us that it should be kept private. You don't like the word "hypocrite" but it cannot be called anything else.

eg8r

hondo
06-02-2010, 05:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I would be very surprised if I ever get back on AZ. </div></div>

Considering all the abuse you claim to be subjected to over there, why would you want to????

Steve </div></div>

If Ido, it will be on the pool and cue section. You are right.

Sev
06-02-2010, 05:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I would be very surprised if I ever get back on AZ. </div></div>

Considering all the abuse you claim to be subjected to over there, why would you want to????

Steve </div></div>

If Ido, it will be on the pool and cue section. You are right. </div></div>

Bahahahahaaha!!
Who are you trying to kid. Curiosity will get the best of you.
You have an NPR addiction. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Gayle in MD
06-02-2010, 12:15 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[
Those who were among Washington's social circle, always knew.


I will write about every damn holier than thou, "Family Values" Republican "Christian" hypocrit who takes his dick out of his pants, and puts it where he has no business putting it, until the day I die.
</div></div>


<span style="color: #000066"> <span style='font-size: 20pt'>Oh really???? I have no credibility with you, LMAO! Well then, one would think that a mentally stable person, who felt that way would not be addicted to reading my posts, harping and insulting me, after every single thing I write on here.

GET REAL. YOU'RE ADDICTED TO MY POSTS, YOU INTERNET STALKER!!!!

Let me tell you something, you total ***** ** ***T, nothing you think, or say, is at all interesting to me. NOTHING!</span> </span>
You just lost all credibility for your relentless complaining about anything you claim to be offensive that anyone posts here.
But I suspect you will fail to see your own hypocracy once again.


Steve </div></div>


<span style="color: #000066">Too insane for words! </span>

pooltchr
06-02-2010, 12:38 PM
I know what I posted.
I know what you posted.
I never claimed to be offended.
You did...yet you post equally "offensive" statements.
Hypocrite!

Steve

Gayle in MD
06-03-2010, 01:27 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is a total boatload of Crap, Ed. I have never tried to justify what Bill Clinton did, never.
</div></div>I did not say you were trying to justify it. You ONLY intent is to prove that Reps do it also as if we acted like they never did. You then post private affairs (as defined by you) of all Reps right after telling us that it should be kept private. You don't like the word "hypocrite" but it cannot be called anything else.

eg8r </div></div>

Don't be ridiculous. What I post has already been exposed. You respond, and label the action as though I exposed the information.

Two completely different things, and, as usual, you portray them incorrectly, twisting as you go, but it's just another effort on your part, to accuse me of something, that is totally absurd.

Bottom line, it's just another attempt to redirect the thread away from the poor behavoir of yet another Republican...

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pooltchr
06-03-2010, 01:43 PM
Bottom line, you have never started a thread about a Dem doing the same thing.
Bottom line, if someone did, you would fall back on your "it should be a private thing" line.
Bottom line, you will do anything you can to trash anyone who doesn't buy into your liberal leftist BS

THAT, is the Bottom line, and we all know it.

Steve

eg8r
06-03-2010, 02:29 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't be ridiculous. What I post has already been exposed. You respond, and label the action as though I exposed the information.</div></div>I offer you the same advice, don't be ridiculous. I don't give you credit for ever exposing anything. I do give you credit for propagating the very information that you used to think should be kept private.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
06-04-2010, 06:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't be ridiculous. What I post has already been exposed. You respond, and label the action as though I exposed the information.</div></div>I offer you the same advice, don't be ridiculous. I don't give you credit for ever exposing anything. I do give you credit for propagating the very information that you used to think should be kept private.

eg8r </div></div>

There is a difference between propagating, and commenting. You obviously don't know the difference.

I've commented on both Republicans, and Democratics, who have pretended to be loyal, faithful "Christian" husbands, and launched threads about both, AFTER they had been exposed in the news, revealing their hypocracy.

You really do try excruciatingly hard to twist the King's English, to suit your version of whatever you think your latest gotcha is, never on the mark, BTW.

Careful, you're beginning to give LWW, Steve and Sev competition on being completely ridiculous in your fact twisting, as you attempt to fit the facts, to what you mistakenly think is some sort of gotcha. The rest of us can only laugh at all of you.

G.

eg8r
06-04-2010, 08:59 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is a difference between propagating, and commenting. You obviously don't know the difference.
</div></div>Every time you copy/paste or link to it you are propagating the information. You might want to seek help on understanding such a simple concept.

On top of that, why are you commenting on it if you think this type of info should be kept private?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The rest of us can only laugh at all of you.</div></div>Laugh all you want. "The rest of us" includes like 3 people and they all think like you do so that doesn't bother me a bit. You are acting hypocritical every time you make a post or comment on someone else's private affairs.

eg8r