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Gayle in MD
06-08-2010, 10:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"The rig's on fire! I told you this was gonna happen!"
By Josh Harkinson
| Mon Jun. 7, 2010 3:00 AM PDT
US Coast Guard/ZUMApress.com
A prominent Houston attorney with a long record of winning settlements from oil companies says he has new evidence suggesting that the Deepwater Horizon's top managers knew of problems with the rig before it exploded last month, causing the worst oil spill in US history. Tony Buzbee, a lawyer representing 15 rig workers and dozens of shrimpers, seafood restaurants, and dock workers, says he has obtained a three-page signed statement from a crew member on the boat that rescued the burning rig's workers. The sailor, who Buzbee refuses to name for fear of costing him his job, was on the ship's bridge when Deepwater Horizon installation manager Jimmy Harrell, a top employee of rig owner Transocean, was speaking with someone in Houston via satellite phone. Buzbee told Mother Jones that, according to this witness account, Harrell was screaming, "Are you fucking happy? Are you fucking happy? The rig's on fire! I told you this was gonna happen."

Whoever was on the other end of the line was apparently trying to calm Harrell down. "I am fucking calm," he went on, according to Buzbee. "You realize the rig is burning?"

At that point, the boat's captain asked Harrell to leave the bridge. It wasn't clear whether Harrell had been talking to Transocean, BP, or someone else.

On Friday a spokesman for Transocean said he couldn't confirm or deny whether the conversation took place. He was unable to make Harrell available for an interview.

During hearings held late last month by the Coast Guard and the Minerals Management Service, Harrell denied any conflicts with his BP or Transocean bosses. He said that he did not feel pressured to rush the completion of the well, even though the rig had fallen behind schedule.
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Yet Buzbee's claims add weight to other statements that contradict Harrell's version of events. Testifying before the Coast Guard and MMS panel last month, Douglas Brown, the chief mechanic on the Deepwater Horizon, said that on the morning of the day that the rig exploded Harrell had a "skirmish" over drilling procedures during a meeting with BP's "company man," well site leader Robert Kaluza. "I remember the company man saying this is how it's going to be," Brown told the panel. As Harrell was leaving the meeting, according to Brown, "He pretty much grumbled, 'I guess that's what we have those pincers for,'" referring to the blowout preventer on the sea floor that is supposed to be the last resort to prevent a leak in the event of an emergency. The blowout preventer failed following the explosion on the rig, causing the massive spill. (Transocean's chief electronics technician, Mike Williams, also recalled the argument but named a different BP "company man," BP's top official on the rig, Donald Vidrine).

In a statement to the Wall Street Journal, Transocean appeared to back the claims that Harrell had feuded with BP: "The testimony certainly seems to suggest that [Harrell] disagreed with the operator's instructions, but what those were and why he disagreed are matters that will ultimately be determined during the course of investigations."

Other rig workers have also claimed that they were pressured by BP and their supervisors to cut corners. Transocean roustabout Truitt Crawford told the Coast Guard that he overheard senior management saying that BP was "taking shortcuts" by replacing drilling mud in the well with saltwater, which would have provided less weight to contain the well's surging pressure. Transocean's Williams told 60 Minutes that a supervisor had dismissed evidence that the well's blowout preventer had been damaged. And workers with Halliburton, the well's cementing contractor, had complained that BP's use of cement "was against our best practices" and told the oil company that it would likely have "a SEVERE gas flow problem" unless the well's casings were centered more carefully.

Buzbee told Mother Jones that the sailor's version of Harrell's phone conversation following the explosion was corroborated by a statement from a second crew member who says he also overheard the call. Both statements were taken in-person by Buzbee's investigator and safety consultant, who has interviewed some 60 people involved in the disaster, and signed by the witnesses, he said. Buzbee declined to make the full statements available to Mother Jones because, he said, "it is work product, meaning that it is something that I do not have to produce or disclose in litigation but that can be used at the right time in the litigation." He added that he intends to take a deposition from the crew members at a later time.

Buzbee's case against the operators of the Deepwater Horizon is hardly his first foray into suing major oil companies. After a BP refinery in Texas City exploded in 2005, killing 15 workers and injuring dozens more, he won $100 million in punitive damages from the company. In the wake of the 2002 shipwreck of the Prestige oil tanker, which devastated the coast of Galicia, he won a $70 million settlement for Spain's Basque government from the American Bureau of Shipping, which had inspected and approved the vessel. And he's also nabbed $15 million from Transocean and $6.2 million from Halliburton for injured offshore oil workers.

Yet Buzbee is convinced that the Gulf oil spill lawsuit will be his biggest ever. "It's the grandaddy of all cases," he said. "This is going to define BP and whether BP survives. This is going to be the biggest case in the history of the United States, no doubt about it."

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http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010/06/rigs-fire-i-told-you-was-gonna-happen

pooltchr
06-08-2010, 10:14 AM
I have no doubt BP will survive....however, it will probably be renamed "Barack Petrolium".

Steve

Sev
06-08-2010, 10:16 AM
I still would not rule out sabotage.

pooltchr
06-08-2010, 10:20 AM
I suspect it is more a case of greed....but the cover up and finger pointing will make for interesting reading.

Steve

eg8r
06-08-2010, 10:35 AM
Hopefully they get to the bottom of this. I also hope getting to the bottom of the problem does not get in the way with coming up with a solution.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
06-08-2010, 10:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no doubt BP will survive....however, it will probably be renamed "Barack Petrolium".

Steve

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ACtually, their nickname is Bush Policies...

Gayle in MD
06-08-2010, 10:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hopefully they get to the bottom of this. I also hope getting to the bottom of the problem does not get in the way with coming up with a solution.

eg8r </div></div>

Did you watch 60 minutes last night? Also, Larry King has a very good show with Pickens, a second one, probably it's on line.

I understand the Wall Street Journal, also has a good story today, but have not have time to read it yet....

I have truly been sick over this whole thing all week. I have to turn the station sometimes, when they show pictures of the birds and the fish.

It is really devastating.

G.

eg8r
06-08-2010, 10:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did you watch 60 minutes last night? </div></div>Nope. Played with the kids and cleaned house. I refuse to look at the pictures of the birds and fish. I hated that they showed it after the Valdez spill and still think it is wrong to continually show it.

eg8r

pooltchr
06-08-2010, 10:44 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no doubt BP will survive....however, it will probably be renamed "Barack Petrolium".

Steve

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ACtually, their nickname is Bush Policies... </div></div>

We know. Bush is to blame for everything. Actually, in a round about way, you may be right. Had he done a better job, we wouldn't be stuck with the idiot in the White House that we have now!

Steve

Gayle in MD
06-08-2010, 11:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no doubt BP will survive....however, it will probably be renamed "Barack Petrolium".

Steve

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ACtually, their nickname is Bush Policies... </div></div>

We know. Bush is to blame for everything. Actually, in a round about way, you may be right. Had he done a better job, we wouldn't be stuck with the idiot in the White House that we have now!

Steve </div></div>

Ok, I'm done with you again. Every now and then I give you another opportunity to join in reasoned discussions.

Silly me.

G.

pooltchr
06-08-2010, 11:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Every now and then I give you another opportunity to join in reasoned discussions.

Silly me.

G. </div></div>

It is impossible when you refuse to actually discuss issues, and do nothing but post the same tired old talking points about things that aren't even related to the topic at hand.

Steve

Gayle in MD
06-08-2010, 01:39 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Every now and then I give you another opportunity to join in reasoned discussions.

Silly me.

G. </div></div>

It is impossible when you refuse to actually discuss issues, and do nothing but post the same tired old talking points about things that aren't even related to the topic at hand.

Steve </div></div>

<span style="color: #000066">Correction, things which YOU refuse to acknowledge would not even be a problem, right now, if not for eight years of the F-ed up Bush/Cheney administration, and eight years of their Lies, Incompetence, Corruption, Spending and borrowing. </span>

Gayle in MD
06-08-2010, 01:41 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no doubt BP will survive....however, it will probably be renamed "Barack Petrolium".

Steve

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<span style="color: #000066">Again, nothing of any value to add. Then Shut up! </span>

Gayle in MD
06-08-2010, 01:42 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no doubt BP will survive....however, it will probably be renamed "Barack Petrolium".

Steve

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ACtually, their nickname is Bush Policies... </div></div>

We know. Bush is to blame for everything. Actually, in a round about way, you may be right. Had he done a better job, we wouldn't be stuck with the idiot in the White House that we have now!

Steve </div></div>

<span style="color: #000066">Again, nothing of any value to add. Then shut up! </span>

Sev
06-08-2010, 02:30 PM
You guys are to much.

wolfdancer
06-08-2010, 03:04 PM
what else could one expect from someone that can't even spell petroleum kerreckly?
That was a typical post of his....while he stupidly tries to connect President Obama to the oil industry, and therefore bear the brunt of the blame...he forgets that the biggest Dick of them all, Cheney, still is collecting his deferred salary and bonus's from HAL.
It detract's from the main point in your post....that the BP engineeers screwed the pooch...

Gayle in MD
06-09-2010, 05:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what else could one expect from someone that can't even spell petroleum kerreckly?
That was a typical post of his....while he stupidly tries to connect President Obama to the oil industry, and therefore bear the brunt of the blame...he forgets that the biggest Dick of them all, Cheney, still is collecting his deferred salary and bonus's from HAL.
It detract's from the main point in your post....that the BP engineeers screwed the pooch... </div></div>

He doesn't even read the articles. He just jumps right behind everry post, with his stupid insults, and his twisted version of whatever I write.

A waste! Truly a total waste. Very easy to totally ignore, since there is never anything of value contributed, can't even address the article, probably can't comprehend it anyway.

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pooltchr
06-09-2010, 08:50 AM
If you have me on total ignore, how would you know??????????

You and woofie are like Beavis and Buthead...mildly entertaining in their blatent ignorance.

Steve

LWW
06-09-2010, 09:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you have me on total ignore, how would you know??????????

You and woofie are like Beavis and Buthead...mildly entertaining in their blatent ignorance.

Steve </div></div>

I pegged them more like this trio:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_61y14s_6orE/RnMo_NmZrTI/AAAAAAAAAr4/yvx67vH7zXg/s320/Foghorn-Leghorn.jpghttp://outdoorcanada.ca/blogs/in_the_net/files/2009/05/elmer-fudd.gifhttp://records.viu.ca/~soules/medi402/walker/queen.GIF

LWW

pooltchr
06-09-2010, 10:05 AM
I'm sorry, but that is an insult to Elmer Fudd and Foghorn Leghorn!!

Steve