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Sev
06-10-2010, 08:00 PM
HAHAHHAHHAA!!!

Yah man!! The pinnacle of Democrat intelligence.
And you guyss call republicans stupid.
What a bunch of Jackasses!!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

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Surprise South Carolina Democratic Senate Nominee Refuses to Step Aside

By Jake Gibson
Published June 10, 2010 | FOXNews.com

The surprise South Carolina Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate has turned down a request from the state party boss to step down.

Alvin Greene, a relative unknown, shocked Democrats in the Palmetto State on Tuesday night by winning the chance to face Sen. Jim DeMint, a Republican, this fall with a commanding victory over state lawmaker Vick Rawl in the Democratic primary.

South Carolina Democratic Party Chair Carol Fowler on Wednesday asked Greene to withdraw from the race for U.S. Senate because of recently revealed court records which show the 32-year-old unemployed veteran was arrested last November in Columbia, S.C., for allegedly showing obscene photos to a college student.

However, Greene told Fox News he has no intention of ending his campaign.

"The Democratic Party has chosen their nominee with over 60 percent, and we have to stand behind their choice," Greene said during a telephone interview from his home in Manning, S.C. "We need to be about the issues. We need to be pro-South Carolina, not anti-Greene."


Fowler pressed Greene in a statement released earlier Wednesday to get out of the race.

"Today, I spoke with Alvin Greene, the presumptive Democratic nominee for the U.S. Senate, and asked him to withdraw from the race," Fowler said. "I did not do this lightly, as I believe strongly that the Democratic voters of this state have the right to select our nominee. But this new information about Mr. Greene would certainly have affected the decisions of many of those voters."

Other staffers at the state party are baffled at Greene's win.

"As far as we know he has done no campaigning," state party spokesperson Keiana Page said. "We have no idea how he won."

Greene told Fox News he has never run for public office before, has no staffers and ran the campaign entirely on his own.

Greene is also being shunned by national Democrats, telling Fox News that neither the Democratic National Committee nor the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee have contacted him in the wake of his big win.

National party officials didn't return calls Wednesday evening seeking comment for this story.

Court records indicate that last November, Greene allegedly showed graphic photos to a woman at the University of South Carolina and tried to follow her to her dorm room. He was charged with "disseminating, procuring or promoting obscenity."

When asked about the allegations, Greene said, "I have no comment on that other, that negative story ... I want this to be about the issues."

On the issues, Greene says his platform will be about employment. "I want to put South Carolina back to work, I know about being unemployed."

Greene also says he is a supporter of the Democrats' national health care agenda and the economic stimulus packages.

But as for how he would have voted on TARP, or the Troubled Asset Relief Program, Greene was undecided. "TARP? What's that?" he asked.

After a moment he added, "I'll have to look into that and get back to you."

Greene says he wants foreign policy to be a part of his candidacy -- as a specialist in the Army, he was stationed in Korea for a year.

"I think there should be one Korea under a democracy, done peacefully," he said.

Greene said that could best be accomplished by "diplomatic efforts."

"It would be good for the economy of the nation and South Carolina and our allies," he said.

When asked what he thought of the latest events surrounding Iran and the United Nations, Greene seemed to stumble.

"I think how we're going about, what we're doing is OK, I think ... Look, I have someone beeping on the other line, I have to move on ... I'm exhausted," he said.

Greene also said he was eager to square off with Sen. DeMint in a debate, preferably in September.

Qtec
06-11-2010, 12:34 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clyburn Alleges Conspiracy To Plant Candidates In Three Dem Primaries In S.C.



..........In the third race that Clyburn calls suspicious, the 1st Congressional District, Frasier won even though the establishment-favored candidate, Robert Burton, raised and spent $100,000. Frasier's campaign didn't file any details about his spending with the FEC. But he's far from a first-time candidate, having run nearly three dozen times -- and losing -- for elected office. Frasier has run as a candidate for both parties, and has even been accused of being a Republican plant and not qualified to be a candidate in the past, according to local press accounts.

Frasier doesn't have a campaign Website or Facebook page we could find, but Frasier beat Burton by about 2,200 votes or 56%-44%. I spoke with Burton campaign manager Ann Beser this morning and told her about Clyburn's accusation that Frasier is a plant. She agreed it's possible, saying, "There is something radically wrong."

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Beser said that since election night the Burton campaign has been doing precinct tallies and has seen numbers that far surpass what turnout had expected to be, including all-white precincts where Greene beat Senate candidate Victor Rawl and Frasier beat Burton. Both Rawl and Burton are white. "None of it makes sense," she said.</span>

Attempts to locate Frasier or a representative of his campaign were not immediately successful.

This morning Clyburn told radio host Bill Press he considers Greene a "plant" and he called for the U.S. Attorney to look into potential charges as to how an unemployed man paid $10,000 to be placed on the ballot and then came out of nowhere to win.

"All the Democrats I know were pushing for Victor Rawl," Clyburn said in our interview. "No Democrat I know ever heard of Alvin Greene." </div></div>
link (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/clyburn_alvin_greene_not_only_suspicious_candidate .php)

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LWW
06-11-2010, 04:36 AM
And, again, whatever "OFFICIAL EXPLANATION" the party issues ... you lick the spoon clean and beg for more.

I'm betting that Bush was behind it all somehow.

LWW

Sev
06-11-2010, 07:08 AM
The entire thing is hysterical.

Can you imagine if it were a republican?

This site would be rife with article after derogatory article concerning the matter.

pooltchr
06-11-2010, 07:15 AM
I think it's funny! The Dems elected an idiot, then found out he is an idiot, so they blame the Republicans!
Somehow, in their twisted minds, they seem to believe that the Reps forced the Dems to elect an idiot.
(Hmmmmmmmm....sounds like the last presidential election, now that I think about it!)

Steve

hondo
06-11-2010, 08:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it's funny! The Dems elected an idiot, then found out he is an idiot, so they blame the Republicans!
Somehow, in their twisted minds, they seem to believe that the Reps forced the Dems to elect an idiot.
(Hmmmmmmmm....sounds like the last presidential election, now that I think about it!)

Steve </div></div>

I can't follow your logic.
This guy got the nomination by THE PEOPLE who wanted to toss out another imcumbent.
THE PARTY discovered his background too late ( it happens)
and are trying to do the right thing.
The party officials weren't the ones who voted him in and yet that's what you're implying.
Yep, they didn't dig deep enough for the dirt but Sev doing his usual ROTHLMFAO routine makes him just look petty and silly in this case.
At least that's the way I see it.

pooltchr
06-11-2010, 08:33 AM
And that is your problem. You see what you want to see, and not what is there.
I never said the party elected him, I said the voters elected him. I also said that now that they see what an idiot this guy is, the party is trying to blame Republicans for "planting" him on the ballot. It was Dem voters who elected him (It was a primary, so only Dems were even allowed to vote for him)
The Reps had nothing at all to do with his election, but the Dem leadership would rather blame the other party for the stupidity of their own members.

Steve

Sev
06-11-2010, 02:48 PM
I am waiting for the Bush tie in.

Somewhere somehow I know that Dick Chaney and Bush are going to be linked this sooner or later.

hondo
06-11-2010, 08:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Reps had nothing at all to do with his election,

Steve </div></div>

And you know this for a fact, how? Seriously.

hondo
06-11-2010, 08:06 PM
Cheney, maybe.
Bush, no.
Bush was just a shill for the big guns and his usefulness has expired.

pooltchr
06-11-2010, 08:20 PM
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Steve

(am I typing slow enough for you to get it this time?)

hondo
06-11-2010, 08:26 PM
Has absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about.
If they put this candidate up, of course he would have to enter the primary.

Think, Steve. I know you're smarter than you're showing.

LWW
06-12-2010, 04:38 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Reps had nothing at all to do with his election,

Steve </div></div>

And you know this for a fact, how? Seriously. </div></div>

I'm guessing it's because he thinks things through as opposed to having what he "THINKS" delivered on the daily spoon by the party.

LWW

LWW
06-12-2010, 04:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can't follow your logic.
This guy got the nomination by THE PEOPLE who wanted to toss out another imcumbent.
THE PARTY discovered his background too late ( it happens)
and are trying to do the right thing.
The party officials weren't the ones who voted him in and yet that's what you're implying.
Yep, they didn't dig deep enough for the dirt but Sev doing his usual ROTHLMFAO routine makes him just look petty and silly in this case.
At least that's the way I see it. </div></div>

See ... you are willfully ignorant of the reality again.

1 - He was not running against an "INCUMBENT" ... he was running against Vic Raw who is a Charleston city council member.

2 - The party discovered his background too late because they failed to do even a cursory examination of the man's reputation. The charges he faces have been a matter of record in SC since 11/2009.

3 - The party arrogantly assumed that the regime's candidate would win ... so he is the beneficiary of a backlash by even demokook voters against the travesty the party has inflicted upon the nation.

4 - The party cares not a whit about the "RIGHT THING" and if he still polled well for the general election they would circle the wagons and accuse the charges of being race based. I will commend the party however as this is the first time I can remember a demokook being asked to step down ... although the reasons are clearly political and not morals based.

5 - The way you "SEE IT" is the way the party tells you to see it.

LWW

LWW
06-12-2010, 04:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about.
If they put this candidate up, of course he would have to enter the primary.

Think, Steve. I know you're smarter than you're showing. </div></div>

Dude ... the people had a party endorsed choice.

They rejected the regime's choice to vote for a man who ran no campaign at all ... no TV ... no radio ... no print ... no yard signs ... nothing.

LWW

Sev
06-12-2010, 06:22 AM
I wonder if the anointed one will come to his rescue?
Perhaps a cabinet position?

pooltchr
06-12-2010, 06:26 AM
Hondo,
You need to think this through.
You are suggesting that the Republicans came up with an unemployed nobody facing criminal charges and somehow managed to get him on the Democrat ballot, then sat back and did absolutely nothing to promote his candidacy, did no advertising, no rallys, no campaign of any kind, and hoped against hope that the would win the primary?

How does that make any sense at all??

Steve

hondo
06-12-2010, 06:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Reps had nothing at all to do with his election,

Steve </div></div>

And you know this for a fact, how? Seriously. </div></div>

I'm guessing it's because he thinks things through as opposed to having what he "THINKS" delivered on the daily spoon by the party.

LWW </div></div>

Not an answer, just a wisecrack.

hondo
06-12-2010, 06:52 AM
My guess is that Vic Raw would have had a chance against the Republican then.
But, yes, I agree. They should have checked that guy's background more carefully.

hondo
06-12-2010, 06:53 AM
NO YARD SIGNS!!!!

hondo
06-12-2010, 06:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hondo,
You need to think this through.
You are suggesting that the Republicans came up with an unemployed nobody facing criminal charges and somehow managed to get him on the Democrat ballot, then sat back and did absolutely nothing to promote his candidacy, did no advertising, no rallys, no campaign of any kind, and hoped against hope that the would win the primary?

How does that make any sense at all??

Steve
</div></div>

HMMM. If he won the primary despite all that, he might win the big enchilada also.
Is he still eligible?
They will need his current address.

LWW
06-12-2010, 07:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hondo,
You need to think this through.
You are suggesting that the Republicans came up with an unemployed nobody facing criminal charges and somehow managed to get him on the Democrat ballot, then sat back and did absolutely nothing to promote his candidacy, did no advertising, no rallys, no campaign of any kind, and hoped against hope that the would win the primary?

How does that make any sense at all??

Steve
</div></div>

The party told him that it made sense ... so, he licked the spoon and said <span style='font-size: 17pt'>"B-B-B-BUT TH-TH-TH-THE RE-RE-RE-PUBLICANS DID IT!!!"</span>

You must remember ... hondo is on record believing that the shroud of Turin bears the likeness of Barack Hussein Obama Junior.

LWW

hondo
06-12-2010, 08:51 AM
My friend, you appear to grasp at any comment you think you can use against that person.
You and everybody else knew I was trying to be funny with
the Shroud comment but you use it over and over again.
It's like the time you sarcastically said I was real smart and when I responded to your sarcasm, you tell people over and over again how I protested being called smart.

How does somebody become like you, buddy?
I've decided that I am going to try and remain civil to you,
but the fact remains that you just don't seem like a very nice person, or very honest for that matter.

As I've pointed out many times, I'm no match for you really.
Proving that you're more clever than the libs on these boards seems to be your entire raison d'etre.
I have neither the time nor the energy to go back and forth with you every day. You're the winner, Larry.

pooltchr
06-12-2010, 11:05 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hondo,
You need to think this through.
You are suggesting that the Republicans came up with an unemployed nobody facing criminal charges and somehow managed to get him on the Democrat ballot, then sat back and did absolutely nothing to promote his candidacy, did no advertising, no rallys, no campaign of any kind, and hoped against hope that the would win the primary?

How does that make any sense at all??

Steve
</div></div>

HMMM. If he won the primary despite all that, he might win the big enchilada also.
Is he still eligible?
They will need his current address. </div></div>

The state of SC was supposed to certify the election yesterday, so I guess he is. Of course, he is facing federal charges, so his address might be changing again.
The Dem party is going nuts trying to figure out how and why this happened. It's almost funny to see them on tv.

Our local news station went to a supermarket in SC to try and find anybody who voted for him. They did finally find one guy who voted for him because he was a neighbor and figured when he saw the name, he might as well vote for him!

It seems as if nobody who actually voted for the guy wants to admit it now!

Steve

Sev
06-12-2010, 11:45 AM
Ever see the movie, "Man of the Year."? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

pooltchr
06-12-2010, 11:54 AM
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Steve

hondo
06-12-2010, 02:42 PM
Hmmm. Sounds like the election was rigged by Republican tampering.
I wouldn't put it past them.

LWW
06-12-2010, 05:14 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My friend, you appear to grasp at any comment you think you can use against that person.
</div></div>

No ... I just see how dumb some of the shiite you spew actually is, and then you claim to be a victim once it sinks in that it was.

Here's how not to be reminded of saying dumb stuff ... stop saying dumb stuff.

And, FWIW, that's exactly what you did because you defended the statement when I brought it up before.

But ... you already knew that.

LWW

LWW
06-12-2010, 05:16 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hmmm. Sounds like the election was rigged by Republican tampering.
I wouldn't put it past them. </div></div>

Please refer to my earlier post on how you can cease being reminded of when you say dumb stuff ... and that statement was pretty dumb.

Not a republichicken voted for him ... but it must be their fault.

That one's a hoot.

LWW

pooltchr
06-12-2010, 06:53 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hmmm. Sounds like the election was rigged by Republican tampering.
I wouldn't put it past them. </div></div>

Do you have any idea how stupid that comment makes you sound?


Steve

hondo
06-12-2010, 09:55 PM
SHEESH! So much hate, young man.
Start reading your Bible.
Take a break from the computers now and then and go to church.
Pray constantly.

I haven't given up on you, Larry.
I honestly feel that deeply submerged in all that hate and name-calling and arrogance is a decent human being crying to get out.

I'm pulling for you, buddy. You can do it.
Why not start by stop calling me names?
I love you, man.

hondo
06-12-2010, 09:59 PM
I just want to say how much I appreciate your and Larry's efforts to make this a more civil place by refraining from calling people you disagree with "stupid."

You guys are special. I love you guys.

pooltchr
06-13-2010, 07:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just want to say how much I appreciate your and Larry's efforts to make this a more civil place by refraining from calling people you disagree with "stupid."

You guys are special. I love you guys. </div></div>

Hondo, you really do need to learn to comprehend what you read.
I did NOT call you stupid.
I did say that statement makes you LOOK stupid.

There is a difference.

Steve

hondo
06-13-2010, 09:05 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just want to say how much I appreciate your and Larry's efforts to make this a more civil place by refraining from calling people you disagree with "stupid."

You guys are special. I love you guys. </div></div>

Hondo, you really do need to learn to comprehend what you read.
I did NOT call you stupid.
I did say that statement makes you LOOK stupid.

There is a difference.

Steve </div></div>

Bless you, brother. Thanks for clearing that up. I love you, man.

Sev
06-13-2010, 06:15 PM
If you think your getting his Bud Lite your nuts. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

hondo
06-13-2010, 08:20 PM
I hate Bud and Bud Lite so no problem.
IME, only rednecks and hillbillies drink Budweiser.

I'm a sofistikated dude.

Sev
06-14-2010, 06:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hate Bud and Bud Lite so no problem.
IME, only rednecks and hillbillies drink Budweiser.

I'm a sofistikated dude. </div></div>

Ahhh. An Old Mill fan. Impressive. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Gayle in MD
06-14-2010, 10:15 AM
I have no doubt Repubs are behind this. They've done this same thing before, and did so right in South Carolina. that state has a history of political trickery. Something is definitely wrong with this picture.

Back in 1990, the Republican consultant Rod Shealy recruited an unemployed black fisherman, named Benjamin Hunt, Jr., to run for Lt. Governor, in a scheme to fan fears among white voters. Shealy, whose sister was running for attorney general in the same election, denied that he was trying to stir up racial fears, but he later paid a fine for failing to report a $5,000 campaign contribution to Hunt, who was later convicted of drug offenses. According to the testimony, Hunt was recruited by a sitting state congressman at Shealy's request. At the time, Hunt was in a wheelchair with a broken arm. He had signed the papers making him a candidate in a Kmart parking lot!

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hondo
06-14-2010, 10:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hate Bud and Bud Lite so no problem.
IME, only rednecks and hillbillies drink Budweiser.

I'm a sofistikated dude. </div></div>

Ahhh. An Old Mill fan. Impressive. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif </div></div>

I don't always drink beer but when I'm not in Germany, I drink Michelob Ultra.
Stay thirsty, my friend.

pooltchr
06-14-2010, 10:42 AM
Your tin foil hat is slipping.

Steve