View Full Version : G20: Why we all want to be Canadian now

06-25-2010, 05:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Safe as houses

Certainly, <u>fewer risks are allowed in the housing market.</u>

Canadian home values have held fairly steady according to Pierre de Varennes, a real estate broker in Ottawa, with 350 employees.

He says <u>stricter standards for homebuyers </u>meant no housing boom and bust in Canada:

"In Canada, you cannot over-mortgage your property. In fact if you are financing more than 75% of the value, you have to get insurance. Not for you but for the bank."

With that protection, Canadian banks have done well from mortgages. And with less exposure to toxic sub-prime mortgages in the US, Canada's six biggest financial institutions, headquartered on Bay Street in Toronto, survived the financial crisis disaster free.</div></div>

link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/10409354.stm)

Those dirty commies got it right? Regulation does work?


BTW, just in,,,,,,,,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">(Reuters) - <span style='font-size: 17pt'>Americans spend twice as much as residents of other developed countries on healthcare, but get lower quality, less efficiency and have the least equitable system, </span>according to a report released on Wednesday.

U.S. | Health | Lifestyle | Healthcare Reform

The United States ranked last when compared to six other countries -- Britain, Canada, Germany, Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand, the Commonwealth Fund report found.

"As an American it just bothers me that with all of our know-how, all of our wealth, that we are not assuring that people who need healthcare can get it," Commonwealth Fund president Karen Davis told reporters in a telephone briefing.

Previous reports by the nonprofit fund, which conducts research into healthcare performance and promotes changes in the U.S. system, have been heavily used by policymakers and politicians pressing for healthcare reform.

Davis said she hoped health reform legislation passed in March would lead to improvements.

The current report uses data from nationally representative patient and physician surveys in seven countries in 2007, 2008, and 2009. It is available here

In 2007, health spending was $7,290 per person in the United States, more than double that of any other country in the survey.

Australians spent $3,357, Canadians $3,895, Germans $3,588, the Netherlands $3,837 and Britons spent $2,992 per capita on health in 2007. New Zealand spent the least at $2,454.

This is a big rise from the Fund's last similar survey, in 2007, which found Americans spent $6,697 per capita on healthcare in 2005, or 16 percent of gross domestic product.

"We rank last on safety and do poorly on several dimensions of quality," Schoen told reporters. "We do particularly poorly on going without care because of cost. And we also do surprisingly poorly on access to primary care and after-hours care."


06-25-2010, 06:11 AM
Wow! We agree! If Washington hadn't forced lenders to make loans that were likely to default (community redevelopment) or created the sub prime mortgage industry with guarantees through Fanny and Freddie, we probably wouldn't be in this mess.
It's nothing to do with regulation, and everything to do with government interference.

OK, you pay less for your healthcare than we do.
What is your tax rate so your government can pick up the difference?


06-25-2010, 07:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Those dirty commies got it right? Regulation does work?</div></div>Seems quite the opposite of what Clinton was trying to do when he set up this downward spiral we have been in.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Americans spend twice as much as residents of other developed countries on healthcare, but get lower quality, less efficiency and have the least equitable system, according to a report released on Wednesday.
</div></div>Yet every single person with money comes to our low quality, inefficient doctors and healthcare professionals for medical care. Low quality, that was just too funny.


06-25-2010, 07:45 AM
What's funny is that Canada went bust 15 years ago with leftist leadership while we thrived under a conservative congress.

Now that Canada is rebounding under conservatism and the US is floundering under the weight of a leftist state ... Q uses that as evidence of the success of failed ideology.

Simply amazing.


06-25-2010, 07:53 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yet every single person with money </div></div>

When you have millions to spend, you get great healthcare. No surprise there.
The other 95% plus who don't have millions get bad service. When they do get help they pay through the nose for it.


06-25-2010, 08:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When you have millions to spend, you get great healthcare. No surprise there.
</div></div>Kind of contradicting yourself. You said we are a nation of low quality, inefficient healthcare.


06-25-2010, 08:40 AM
I just got back from there. I may be moving there for a little while. Sales tax in Vancouver is 30%. From what I hear real estate taxes are even worse. I liked it there. The people were a lot nicer than in Flarda. I understand now why the call us rude Americans. It's true.

06-25-2010, 09:10 AM
Chop, that is a bit unfair. Most of the people left in Florida are either here from NY or NJ. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif