PDA

View Full Version : California Welfare cards work in Casino



Deeman3
06-25-2010, 08:44 AM
<span style="color: #FF6666">You gotta love Kalifornia! After all, how do we have hope and change if you can't use your food stamp card for a little slots? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

I wonder why we are going broke? </span>




Intrepid newspaper reporting in California -- the state with the $19 billion budget gap -- has found that state-issued welfare debit cards can withdraw cash from ATMs in half the casinos in the state.

Check out historically low mortgage rates
State officials, who were clueless, are scrambling to block the cards' use on gaming floors. They're also trying to calculate how much cash was withdrawn from casino ATMs by welfare recipients. Likely not very much, but you know that, if it can be done, some people will do it.



The Los Angeles Times, which brought this to light, reported:

The cards, provided by the Department of Social Services to help recipients feed and clothe their families, work in automated teller machines at 32 of 58 tribal casinos and 47 of 90 state-licensed poker rooms, the review found.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who learned about the situation from the Times, said he would work to quickly stop it. His spokesman said, "It is reprehensible that anyone would use taxpayer money for anything other than its intended purpose."



A private network administers the ATM transactions for the state. The Times matched up addresses of the network's thousands of ATMs -- available at a state website so recipients can find ATMs that accept the welfare cards -- with the addresses of gambling establishments. The newspaper couldn't learn how much Temporary Aid for Needy Families money had actually been withdrawn at those locations. Most cards have a $300 daily limit. The maximum monthly TANF benefit, available to needy families with children, is $694 in California, the Times says.

Bing: Who is eligible for TANF?
Prepaid debit cards are the norm these days for all kinds of state government benefits -- welfare, food stamps, unemployment compensation. Starting in March 2011, the federal government wants to eliminate paper checks for new recipients of benefits such as Social Security. Your "check" will either be direct-deposited into your checking account or to a prepaid debit card. (Those now getting paper checks wouldn't have to make the switch to electronic transfer until 2013.)

Chopstick
06-25-2010, 09:02 AM
Not to worry, they still work at the liquor store. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

I may be getting one of those for myself soon.

Deeman3
06-25-2010, 10:18 AM
Why not? While we are at it, why don't we just make unemployment continue forever. No need to make these poor folks have to look for job one day. After all, we have a steady stream of Mexicans coming it for that.

Babymoma needs a new pair so shoes! 7 come 11!!!!

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

LWW
06-25-2010, 04:33 PM
Why do you hate the poor?

LWW

Sev
06-26-2010, 07:49 PM
Soylent Green anybody???

Qtec
06-27-2010, 01:51 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why not? While we are at it, why don't we just make unemployment continue forever. No need to make these poor folks have to look for job one day. After all, we have a steady stream of Mexicans coming it for that.

Babymoma needs a new pair so shoes! 7 come 11!!!!

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>Millions of Americans are out of work because the bailouts never trickled down farther than the steps of AIG and Goldman Sachs. Responsible people that have held jobs for decades are now finding themselves homeless and out of work.</span> I have a friend who is a pentecostal minister who tells me that he has 12 new homeless families in his church, and none of them are psychotic, or drug users or alcoholics.

Yet the Republican Party chooses to carry water for their big business buddies and characterize the unemployed as shiftless, lazy parasites intent on gaming the system. Their compassion speaks volumes about how they feel about the American worker, some of whom have spent months and years looking for a job, not a handout. And notwithstanding the fact that current unemployment benefits are barely enough to get by for most individuals. We are back to social darwinism at its finest, with a wistful look back at Hobos and Hoovertowns. If you can't make it in the economic downturn, Jesus Christ probably just doesn't love you enough.

Looks like the good old class war is back in bidness. We have been through this before as a nation, and we will get by. Yeah I know, there will always be winners and losers. But just maybe some of the haves will taste a little instant karma and get to ride a few rails themselves. Here's hoping it instills a little empathy and tempers their free market idealism a smidge. </div></div> link (http://www.blueheronblast.com/2010/06/war-on-poor.html)

The good old days.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MHXumRVuJuY/TCDsjY8zzeI/AAAAAAAAL3c/6yQtykrBlbg/s640/dorothea-lange-3_jpg2.jpg



Q

Qtec
06-27-2010, 02:17 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><u>Likely not very much,</u> but you know that, if it can be done, some people will do it. </div></div>

'Likely'???????????? So this is just gossip?

This isn't news, its propaganda.

Isn't America a free country? Do you want to tell people how and on what they should spend their money?

Q!

eg8r
06-28-2010, 08:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Isn't America a free country? Do you want to tell people how and on what they should spend their money?</div></div>Welfare is NOT their money, it is the taxpayers money and intended to be spent on necessities.

eg8r

Deeman3
06-28-2010, 09:24 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Isn't America a free country? Do you want to tell people how and on what they should spend their money?

Q! </div></div>

[color:#FF0000]Q, even you, with all your good hearted need to feel like a defender of all things unfiar, as long as it does not involve fairness to the Jews, would probably be able to the see strangeness of monies intended to feed these folk children and lift them up to a sustenence level spending the very funds that would provide that on gambling? Well, maybe not.

Poverty, at least in this country, does not have to be forever. If a person will willing to work and be the least bit innovative, most can, and do, make a success out fo their lives. Millions have pulled themselves and thier families out of generational poverty. However, with the exception of a few athletes and rap artists, most who choose to simply live off the welfare state are doomed to become as addicted to that as to cocain. Even with the limitation of length of benefits Clinton embraced back in the 1990's many got eductions, found jobs and escaped the poverty that our government loves to keep them in for political purposes.

Defending any abuse by those getting benefits only empowers and encourages more to do the same. The Great Society bought off many families in the 1960's who were, in their proper sequence of immigration and working their way up the ladder, with these very same tactics. Now we have cities fliied with slums this created and many of the growing and prospering black communities back then fell into that liberal trap and generations have paid the price.

Will we be killed if a few folks gamble away their kids dinners? No, but they will still be poor and even more reason for the left to ask for more to support them. Before state sponsored placation of the black community, there were very few drug dealers, gang bangers and drop puts. Now, it represents a great majority of urban minorities.

I know I can't convince you of this but at least think about what we have done to them in the name of making their lives better just to quell riots and get votes for the politicians.

Qtec
06-29-2010, 01:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Q, even you, with all your good hearted need to feel like a defender of all things unfair, </div></div>

LOL.

You can´t blame the poor for Casino´s having ATM´s that accept every kind of card. They will take anybody´s money.

Sure, there are the few that don´t want to work and those who are unemployable but those are the minority.

If drugs were legalised, all the gang bangers would have to find jobs. The huge gang problem in the USA, the mass killings and beheadings taking place just across the border in Mexico would not be happening if drugs were legalised. Its the only way, Prohibition proved it but nobody wants to accept it.

You seem to think people are content to live on SS, I disagree. If you are a woman of 25 yrs living on SS, how much do you get? I bet its not a lot. I bet it means you live in a very NOT sought after area. I bet where you live is gang and drug infested with the worst schools etc. It can become a vicious circle, but not necessarily through choice.

Q

pooltchr
06-29-2010, 07:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Q, even you, with all your good hearted need to feel like a defender of all things unfair, </div></div>

LOL.

You can´t blame the poor for Casino´s having ATM´s that accept every kind of card. They will take anybody´s money.


</div></div>

Nobody is blaming the casino's. It's the government operated system that allows the direct transfer of taxpayer handouts from the recipient to the casino that is the problem.

Steve

Deeman3
06-29-2010, 08:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>

LOL.

You can´t blame the poor for Casino´s having ATM´s that accept every kind of card. They will take anybody´s money.

<span style="color: #FF0000"> I am blaming the sysstem that allows it along with anyone who would take advantage by using their card at a casino.</span>

Sure, there are the few that don´t want to work and those who are unemployable but those are the minority.

<span style="color: #FF0000">Not such a small minority and growing all the time. We have no problem with the truely needy and those who can't work. </span>

If drugs were legalised, all the gang bangers would have to find jobs. The huge gang problem in the USA, the mass killings and beheadings taking place just across the border in Mexico would not be happening if drugs were legalised. Its the only way, Prohibition proved it but nobody wants to accept it.

<span style="color: #FF0000">Drugs are only the most widely spread and profitable excuses for gang related activity. If you legalize drugs, prostitution, loan sharking and protection rackets would soon take over as they did with the mob after prohibition. Get real! </span>

You seem to think people are content to live on SS, I disagree. If you are a woman of 25 yrs living on SS, how much do you get? I bet its not a lot. I bet it means you live in a very NOT sought after area. I bet where you live is gang and drug infested with the worst schools etc. It can become a vicious circle, but not necessarily through choice.

Q

<span style="color: #FF0000"> You would be surprised at what someone you are dsscribing can haul in, with assistance, food stamps, rent subsity and even more with a housefull of kids.

You don't live here and don't know the situation except by the left press you read. </span>






[/quote]