View Full Version : Gross Incompetence or Criminal Negligence?

07-01-2010, 09:58 AM
Which is it, incompetence or negligence that explains The Moron's handling of the Gulf oil spill?

Of course, the same question applies to virtually everything The Moron has done in both domestic and foreign policies. Can our country survive another six months with such an person at the top?

07-01-2010, 11:54 AM
Considering that he ran one of the most successful campaigns in history, and dismantled the Clinton machine in the process, it's hard to believe it is a matter of incompetence.

I think everything this administration is calculated for a specific reason. Letting the oil spill become a major ecological disaster was a political move to help him advance his cap and trade bill. Considering the technology and equipment and manpower that was offered just days after the well blew, and the fact that all help was refused, one can only come to the conclusion that he is taking advantage of the mess to move his agenda forward. The only specific direct action he took after the explosion was to stop all offshore drilling....which is what he has wanted to do anyway. He just got a good reason handed to him by BP.

The left wants to take down the oil industry, but first, they have to build public opinion in their favor. What better way to do than, than to allow this accident to devistate the entire gulf coast?

He is a snake, pure and simple.


07-01-2010, 12:58 PM
I think, knowing the caliber of those who voted for The Moron, it really didn't take much intelligence to win the race. Just consider those who still fall in line with him who post here. Maybe the public education system, manned as it is by these same voters, is failing to educate.

07-01-2010, 06:30 PM
As much as I don't care for Obama, I keep thinking
that if people like LWW, Casual Observer, Lamas, Slide Rule, , Ugotda7, and Lotter are against him, I must be
missing something.
Birds of a feather flock together and I could never associate with those birds.
I keep looking for a speck of decency or humanity from any of those six, but they keep it well hidden.

07-01-2010, 07:18 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As much as I don't care for Obama, I keep thinking
that if people like LWW, Casual Observer, Lamas, Slide Rule, , Ugotda7, and Lotter are against him, I must be
missing something.

I can see you are in a touch situation. On one hand you admit that you don't really like Obama. But on the other hand, you are allowing the opinions of others to influence you.

When you can not only form your own opinions, but stand by them with conviction, regardless of what others might think, you will find much less internal conflict.

I am glad to see signs that you might be seeing a little bit of light.


07-02-2010, 02:04 AM
rave on, !!! The only people here that pay any attention to your babble is lww and steve...they look to you for guidance....(it just proves that no matter how dumb you are....there is always somebody dumber)
We survived 8 years with the dumbest President ever, George Bush's idiotic son.....no reason why we can't survive an intelligent President for a change. I'd like to see you clean up the mess the idiot left behind....thank God for term limits...or the yuan would be replacing the dollar by now

07-02-2010, 02:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Letting the oil spill become a major ecological disaster was a political move </div></div>
only a fool like you would come up with that moronic statement.
It's the reason why nobody pays any ******* attention to your sophomoric posts....not even Beck could come up with that moronic statement....next you'll be adding Obama caused the leak.
Give me a break will you....your childish rants are causing me digestive distress....I get physically ill when I read them.....
Take your grade school lunacy, back over to AZB....wait, I forgot....even they wouldn't buy into your posts, and sent you back here.

07-02-2010, 06:19 AM
woofie...bite me!


07-02-2010, 04:51 PM
By TOM BREEN, Associated Press Writer Tom Breen, Associated Press Writer 40 mins ago
NEW ORLEANS BP and the Obama administration face mounting complaints that they are <span style='font-size: 14pt'>ignoring foreign offers of equipment and making little use of the fishing boats and volunteers </span>available to help clean up what may now be the biggest spill ever in the Gulf of Mexico.

The Coast Guard said there have been <span style='font-size: 14pt'>107 offers </span>of help from 44 nations, ranging from technical advice to skimmer boats and booms. But many of those offers are weeks old, and <span style='font-size: 14pt'>only a small number have been accepted.</span> The vast majority are still under review, according to a list kept by the State Department.

And in recent days and weeks, for reasons BP has never explained, many fishing boats hired for the cleanup have done a <span style='font-size: 14pt'>lot of waiting around</span>.

A report prepared by investigators with the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform for Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., detailed one case in which the <span style='font-size: 17pt'>Dutch government offered April 30 to provide four oil skimmers that collectively could process more than 6 million gallons of oily water a day. It took seven weeks for the U.S. to approve the offer.</span>
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs on Thursday scorned the idea that "somehow it took the command 70 days to accept international help."

He said 24 foreign vessels were operating in the Gulf before this week. He did not specifically address the Dutch vessels.

The help is needed. According to the high end of the federal government's estimates, millions of gallons of crude have spewed from the bottom of the sea since the April 20 explosion that killed 11 workers on the Deepwater Horizon oil platform.

According to the government's estimates, the disaster would eclipse the 140-million-gallon Ixtoc disaster in the Gulf three decades ago and rank as the biggest offshore oil spill during peacetime. The biggest spill in history happened in 1991 during the Persian Gulf War, when Iraqi forces opened valves at a terminal and dumped about 336 million gallons of oil.

Still, <span style='font-size: 14pt'>more than 2,000 boats have signed up for oil-spill duty </span>under BP's Vessel of Opportunity program. The company pays boat captains and their crews a flat fee based on the size of the vessel, ranging from $1,200 to $3,000 a day, plus a $200 fee for each crew member who works an eight-hour day.

Rocky Ditcharo, a shrimp dock owner in Buras, La., said many fishermen hired by BP have told him that <span style='font-size: 14pt'>they often park their boats on the shore while they wait</span> for word on where to go.

"They just wait because there's no direction," Ditcharo said. He said he believes BP has hired many boat captains "to show numbers."

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"But they're really not doing anything," </span>he added. He also said he suspects the company is hiring out-of-work fishermen to placate them with paychecks.

Chris Mehlig, a fisherman from Louisiana's St. Bernard Parish, said he is getting <span style='font-size: 17pt'>eight days of work a month</span>, laying down containment boom, running supplies to other boats or simply being on call dockside in case he is needed.

"I wish I had more days than that, but that's the way things are," he said.

Billy Nungesser, president of Louisiana's hard-hit Plaquemines Parish, said BP and the <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Coast Guard provided a map of the exact locations of 140 skimmers that were supposedly cleaning up </span>the oil. But he said that after he repeatedly asked to be flown over the area so he could see them at work, <span style='font-size: 17pt'>officials told him only 31 skimmers were on the job.</span>

"I'm trying to work with these guys," he said. "But everything they're giving me is a wish list, not what's actually out there."

A BP spokesman declined to comment.

Newly retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the government's point man for the response effort, bristled at some of the accusations in Issa's report.

"I think we've been pretty transparent throughout this," Allen said at the White House. He disputed any suggestion that there aren't enough skimmers being put on the water, saying the spill area is so big that there are bound to be areas with no vessels.

The Coast Guard said there are roughly 550 skimmers working in the Gulf, with 250 or so in Louisiana waters, 136 in Florida, 87 in Alabama and 76 in Mississippi, although stormy weather in recent days has kept the many of the vessels from working.

The frustration extends to the volunteers who have offered to clean beaches and wetlands. More than <span style='font-size: 14pt'>20,000 volunteers have signed up to help</span> in Florida, Alabama and Mississippi, yet <span style='font-size: 14pt'>fewer than one in six has received an assignment</span> or the training required to take part in some chores, according to BP.

The executive director of the Alabama Coastal Foundation, Bethany Kraft, said many people who volunteered are frustrated and angry that no one has called on them for help.

"You see this unfolding before your eyes and you have this sense that you can't do anything," she said. "To watch this happen in our backyard and not be able to help is hard."

I'm glad we have someone like Obama who is taking charge of the clean-up.