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LWW
07-27-2010, 02:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The ink is not yet dry on the Obama Health Care takeover and rationing advocate Donald Berkwick has yet to have his desk moved into the Medicare offices, and the Administration is already attempting to limit life-extending drugs for cancer patients.

This is the first shot in the health care revolution.

In September, the Food and Drug Administration will try to take the anti-cancer drug Avastin “off-label.” Avastin is a Stage 4 drug used to battle breast cancer. Avastin is not a cure but has been shown to stop the growth of cancer for an average of five months — meaning some late stage breast cancer victims live beyond five months.

But late stage breast cancer patients do not fit into the cost-benefit analysis of the Obama Administration. We told America rationing would happen if the health care takeover bill passed and in September, women with breast cancer will be its first victims.

Avastin is the first medicine to fight cancer by blocking the growth of blood vessels that feed tumors. While Avastin is expensive and may not be the miracle drug some anticipated for breast cancer (it is for other types of cancer) from the success of the early trials, the overwhelming majority of breast cancer specialists believe the drug can be effective and useful in certain patients.

If the FDA takes Avastin off label it will effectively deny all but the richest Americans access to the drug. Once a drug is off label, most insurance and Medicare will no longer cover the cost of the treatment. So even if a patient meets the criteria of one who might respond positively to Avastin once it is taken off label it is highly unlikely that patient will have access to the drug unless they have the money to pay for it outright.

WHIFF OF SCANDAL?

Traditionally the FDA and ODAC make decisions based on a process called “endpoints.” Does a drug achieve certain targets? In this case, the FDA changed the criteria to judge the effectiveness of the drug.

Dr. Richard Pazdur is the FDA’s Cancer Czar. Pazdur decides which anti-cancer drugs patients can have access to. In the case of Avastin, Pazdur changed the criteria to a new very subjective and slippery standard of “clinically meaningful.” And apparently the FDA and Pazdur don’t believe that extending the life of a Breast Cancer victim by 3 to 5 months or more is “Clinically Meaningful.”

How do you put a price tag on those precious months for the families who are living through the hell of losing a Mother, Sister, Daughter, Aunt or Wife? Taking Avastin off label is nothing more then government rationing of healthcare. Period.

Americans with cancer live much longer than similar victims in other nations. Traditionally the FDA has not based its decisions on the cost of drug or biologic treatment, but solely on the effectiveness of the treatment. This approach seems to be changing as Obamacare is being implemented and the rationing of healthcare soon begins.

If you knew you could take a drug and perhaps live another year, would you take it? The government will now be making that decision for you.

Members of Congress should demand a briefing from the FDA/Dr. Pazdur before any action is taken to deny breast cancer patients access to treatment that may extend their lives. No one is suggesting Avastin is a perfect drug, however it has proven to be an effect treatment for some patients. We should not deny those patients access to a treatment that may extend their lives. The removal of Avastin is the Obama’s Administrations second attack on breast cancer patients, earlier this year they changed the mammography standard from 40 to 50, which could result in millions of women going undiagnosed.</div></div>

&gt;&gt;&gt;THE REGIME CONTROLS THE LEVER WHICH DETERMINES LIFE OR DEATH&lt;&lt;&lt; (http://biggovernment.com/capitolconfidential/2010/07/26/obamacare-the-rationing-begins-in-earnest/#more-149230)

LWW

Sev
07-27-2010, 05:40 PM
Cant wait till they finally figure out what else is contained in that bill.

hondo
07-28-2010, 07:16 AM
Why can't you wait?

eg8r
07-28-2010, 09:28 AM
I bet gayle is sitting outside the gates of the WH thanking Obama for this every day.

eg8r

LWW
07-28-2010, 10:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bet gayle is sitting outside the gates of the WH <s>thanking Obama</s> blaming Bush for this every day.

eg8r </div></div>

I fixed that for you.

LWW

eg8r
07-28-2010, 12:09 PM
Well, why would she blame Bush for a bill that she is in love with and thinks will save the US from utter destruction?

eg8r

Sev
07-28-2010, 12:34 PM
So it will begin to dawn on them on how badly they have further screwed the country.

I swear the entire group of them should be lynched in order to give the next round of politicians the heads up for whats in store for them.

pooltchr
07-28-2010, 01:05 PM
I think they are already starting to get an idea that the average Americans are not real happy with any of them. Problem is, for the next3 or 4 months, they will just lie about how they understand, and how they are hearing what we are saying, and then it will be politics as usual come November.

Steve

LWW
07-28-2010, 05:17 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, why would she blame Bush for a bill that she is in love with and thinks will save the US from utter destruction?

eg8r </div></div>

For the same reason she blamed Bush for Clinton not taking out Bin Laden ... for the same reason she blamed Bush for causing the deficit by increasing federal revenue ... because that's the default O-cult position.

LWW

hondo
07-28-2010, 06:59 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bet gayle is sitting outside the gates of the WH thanking Obama for this every day.

eg8r </div></div>

Maybe. She's certainly not on this forum anymore.

Sev
07-28-2010, 07:01 PM
She's probably beating her husband.

Remember there is a Mr. Gayle somewhere.

hondo
07-28-2010, 07:02 PM
It has been a rough 10 years.

hondo
07-28-2010, 07:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She's probably beating her husband.

Remember there is a Mr. Gayle somewhere. </div></div>

Mr Gayle? I believe.
Mrs LWW? Not so sure.

Sev
07-28-2010, 07:05 PM
Oh yes there is a Mrs LWW.
That is a fact.

hondo
07-28-2010, 07:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh yes there is a Mrs LWW.
That is a fact. </div></div>

We've had this discussion before, buddy.
You told me you never met her.

My guess is that you never will.

Sev
07-28-2010, 07:21 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh yes there is a Mrs LWW.
That is a fact. </div></div>

We've had this discussion before, buddy.
You told me you never met her.

My guess is that you never will. </div></div>

However I know where both of them live.

eg8r
07-29-2010, 07:57 AM
Considering the drug in question is one for an elevated level of breast cancer, I am sure she is very excited that is one of the first ones they are talking about rationing.

What does her being on this forum have anything to do with the subject?

eg8r

eg8r
07-29-2010, 08:06 AM
You are missing my point completely, what is that saying you like so much by telling people to look up?

There is absolutely zero reason to mention Bush. She loved this bill so she thinks Obama is a hero. I wonder whether she stills thinks it is a world-saving bill if something so close to her condition is one of the first drugs up for rationing. It is the sarcasm that you are missing. Maybe it is a fault of typed words, or you being too quick to reword things for people when they correctly posted exactly what they wanted to say.

eg8r

LWW
07-29-2010, 08:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are missing my point completely, what is that saying you like so much by telling people to look up?

There is absolutely zero reason to mention Bush. She loved this bill so she thinks Obama is a hero. I wonder whether she stills thinks it is a world-saving bill if something so close to her condition is one of the first drugs up for rationing. It is the sarcasm that you are missing. Maybe it is a fault of typed words, or you being too quick to reword things for people when they correctly posted exactly what they wanted to say.

eg8r </div></div>

Just look up.

Did she love the stimulus? Yes.

Who did she blame for it's failure?

Bush.

Why would this be any different?

LWW