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08-25-2010, 05:29 AM
<span style='font-size: 20pt'><span style='font-family: Arial Black'><u>THE BELTWAY CHAINSAW MASSACRE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20100825/cm_uc_crmmax/op_1915132)</u></span></span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The "Summer of Recovery" is looking more and more like the Beltway Chainsaw Massacre for America's workers. As President Obama lolls on Martha's Vineyard with his well-heeled Chicago pals, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll shows that 72 percent of people are very worried about joblessness and 67 percent are very concerned about massive government spending.

After a nearly $1 trillion fiscal stimulus and several multibillion-dollar corporate and union bailouts, unemployment remains stuck near 10 percent nationwide; jobless claims rose again last week. One shudders to think how many more jobs will be on the chopping block after the vacationing president finishes "recharging his batteries."

The blame avoidance industry, of course, never takes a break. Capitol Hill Democrats blame George W. Bush. President Obama blames inaction by the, er, Democrat-controlled Congress. On Tuesday, Vice President Joe Biden derided GOP Leader John Boehner's speech on the Obama job-killing machine as a return to the past. Biden sneered about the "good old days" when Republicans held the majority in Washington. But laid-off, unemployed and endangered Americans in the health care sector, the auto industry, and the oil, mining, gas, and fishing industries are no doubt wondering: What's wrong with returning to the days when we had jobs and steady paychecks?
These are not the wealthy fat cats and Big Business titans Democrats love to demonize.

They're employees of companies like Assurant Health, which announced last week that it would slash 130 jobs at its offices in Milwaukee and Plymouth, Minn., to prepare for costly Obamacare mandates.

They're employees of medical device firms in Massachusetts, where officials say they'll be forced to cut back on operational costs and jobs thanks to a little-noticed Obamacare tax on their products that goes into effect in 2013.

They're employees of restaurants like White Castle and International House of Pancakes, whose executives say they will be forced into layoffs and premium hikes to cope with the federal law's $3,000-per-employee penalty on companies whose workers pay more than 9.5 percent of household income in premiums for company-provided insurance.

They're mom-and-pop enterprises across the country that must now deal with Obamacare's onerous Section 9006 tax-filing mandate. It requires them to file 1099 forms with the IRS for every vendor from whom they purchase $600 or more in goods. Nebraska GOP Sen. Mike Johanns calls it one of many "job-crushing provisions" that will bury small business in paperwork and legal costs.
They're the estimated 23,000 workers in the deepwater drilling industry whom the White House deliberately wrote off in pursuit of its junk science-based drilling moratorium.

They're the estimated tens of thousands of workers employed by car dealers that were shut down by Obama's auto czars at a time, as the TARP inspector general pointed out last month, "when the country was experiencing the worst economic downturn in generations and the government was asking its taxpayers to support a $787 billion stimulus package designed primarily to preserve jobs... — all based on a theory and without sufficient consideration of the decisions' broader economic impact."

They're employees of Utah oil and gas companies whose leases have been pulled without cause by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar. The Interior Department's own Inspector General rejected Salazar's explanation that the Bush administration had rushed the leases through. The Deseret News reports that "rescinding these leases has likely cost the state millions already. Officials in Uintah county estimate the county lost 3,000 jobs in 2009, and Duchesne lost 1,000 jobs."

They're employees of commercial and recreational fishing businesses in New England, who have organized a flotilla on Martha's Vineyard on Thursday to protest the Obama administration's restrictive environmental policies and stealth regulatory ocean grab.

The White House has invested mightily in creating a propaganda infrastructure to tout its "jobs saved or created." Taxpayers need a full, transparent accounting of how many jobs Team Obama has destroyed. Call it Wreckovery.gov.</div></div>

I would honestly like to hear anyone make a cogent and fact based ... meaning non spoon fed regime talking points devoid of any link to reality ... defense of the regime's war on the American economy.

What I expect from the left is, at most, <span style='font-size: 11pt'>B-B-B-BUT B-B-B-BOOOOSH!!!!</span>


08-25-2010, 06:45 AM
But, Larry. How much worse would the unemployment be right now if we hadn't had the stimulus.

And we all know that healthcare isn't about cutting costs (at least, this week, it's not!), nor is it about helping people. It's about consolidating more power over the people in Washington.

When Obama said he would fundamentally change America, I don't think this is what most people were anticipating.


08-25-2010, 09:16 AM
Where are our esteemed leftists on this?


08-25-2010, 10:09 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where are our esteemed leftists on this?

LWW </div></div>

Madly scrambling to find out what their marching orders are.


08-25-2010, 08:00 PM
Nothing you post is 'actually worth reading.'


08-25-2010, 08:47 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nothing you post is 'actually worth reading.'

Q </div></div>

LWW is a totaly one dimentional life form. An incessantly barking dog would have greater appeal. St.

08-25-2010, 09:26 PM
So the two of you attack the messenger, rather than address the content of the post..

Why am I not surprised?

If anyone wants to know why this forum is dying, you just gave us two examples.


08-26-2010, 03:06 AM
Here's a challenge for our esteemed leftists ... try discussing the thread topics?


08-26-2010, 06:29 AM
I would like to hear their own opinions on the topics...not just the talking points fed to them by huffpo, et al.

Somehow, I believe everyone on here are basically good people who have allowed the party leadership to mislead them. If they would stop and actually think about things, question what is being told to them, and do some independent research, they might find out that we aren't the enemy.

It's a lot to hope for.


08-26-2010, 04:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would like to hear their own opinions on the topics...

Steve </div></div>

They have none until the spoon arrives.


08-26-2010, 04:25 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nothing you post is 'actually worth reading.'

Q </div></div>

How would you ever know without reading the links?

What's that?

The party won't allow it?


08-26-2010, 05:05 PM
Insurance companies who helped write the bill are now being rewarded:

Health Insurance Companies Dramatically Increase Premiums Due To The New Health Care Law And There Is Not Much We Can Do About It

The Economic Collapse
August 18, 2010

Wasn’t the new health care reform law supposed to make health care more affordable for everyone? Well, imagine my surprise when I opened up a letter from my health insurance company recently and found out that my health insurance premiums were going up by nearly 50 percent. I am in perfect health and I have never had a single health insurance claim with this company. Unfortunately, after doing a little research, I discovered that I am far from alone. All over the United States, people are being hit with double-digit percentage increases in their health insurance premiums even as the health insurance predators continue to rake in record profits. At a time when millions of American families are barely making it from month to month, the last thing they need is to be figuratively kicked in the groin by the health insurance companies. But that is exactly what is happening.

Not that health insurance companies ever needed an excuse to raise rates, but in 2010 many of them are blaming changes in health care law for the dramatic rise in premiums.

Of course it is true that there are over a dozen new taxes on the health care industry in the “health care reform” law that Barack Obama and the Democrats rammed down the throats of the American people, and everyone should have realized that those taxes would ultimately be passed on to the consumer....

http://www.infowars.com/health-insurance...an-do-about-it/ (http://www.infowars.com/health-insurance-companies-dramatically-increase-premiums-due-to-the-new-health-care-law-and-there-is-not-much-we-can-do-about-it/)

08-26-2010, 05:23 PM
Why would you guys bother to defend your stance to people who are not Americans. They can't and don't understand our ways.
There but small countries who have made big mistakes recently with the Muslim population coming to their shores and they being PC.
Now we have Obama who is trying to do what their countries have done and Americans are fed up and are trying to stop him.
Hope and change.Yeah right! not the change most people expected and the elections will prove that out.

08-26-2010, 05:26 PM
I blame Bush!


Actually, it seems Nancy may have been totally correct when she said we would have to pass the bill to find out what's in it.

Kinda like a birthday gift from your great Aunt...you don't really know what it is, but you're pretty sure you aren't going to like it!