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Sev
08-26-2010, 07:14 AM
We have strapped on a suicide vest with a timer and no kill switch.
Bring the chaos!!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp
Status: True.<span style='font-size: 11pt'>

We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington DC filled to capacity by many of America's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "FIRST, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."
Lamm went on: SECOND, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

THIRD, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together."
Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"FOURTH, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My FIFTH point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My SIXTH plan for America 's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" --From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, SEVENTH, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America , it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, EIGHTH, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book "Mexifornia." His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America . If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream. </span>

pooltchr
08-26-2010, 08:48 AM
If that doesn't throw cold water on the liberal mindset, I don't know what will.

I'm betting that our resident lefties will resort to attacking the source, and not addressing the content of the post......if they even bother to read and respond.

Rading that should make every true American's blood run cold with fear!

Steve

Chopstick
08-26-2010, 09:06 AM
We see it all every day.

Qtec
08-26-2010, 10:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There was no applause. </div></div>

No kidding!

Q

pooltchr
08-26-2010, 10:43 AM
Did I call that one, or what!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Steve

LAMas
08-26-2010, 02:34 PM
"FOURTH, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

Cut and pasted from Sev.

http://www.theonion.com/video/in-the...nts-who,17966/

LWW
08-26-2010, 04:22 PM
I would ask him how that assimilation thingie is working our with radical Muslims in the Netherlands, but he never wants to talk about it. I think he fears his dhimmi staus might be revoked if he did.

LWW

pooltchr
08-26-2010, 05:13 PM
He doesn't have any problem giving us his opinion on how he thinks we should do things, but will totally ignore what is happening in his own back yard.

I wonder if it's a case of misery loves company.

Steve

bobroberts
08-26-2010, 05:18 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He doesn't have any problem giving us his opinion on how he thinks we should do things, but will totally ignore what is happening in his own back yard.

I wonder if it's a case of misery loves company.

Steve </div></div>
The Netherlands as is Europe finally realizing they have made a huge mistake by being PC, now they are trying to correct their past errors.

LWW
08-27-2010, 12:43 AM
In the end, we can all count on the Euros to be there when they need us.

LWW

Sev
08-28-2010, 04:56 AM
The Netherlands cant defend itself because of their hate crime laws.

Stretch
08-28-2010, 03:04 PM
Despite his hysterical rhetoric about the demon of multiculturalism, Canada is doing just fine thankyou very much. God you guys will swallow anything. lol St.

hondo
08-28-2010, 05:10 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If that doesn't throw cold water on the liberal mindset, I don't know what will.

I'm betting that our resident lefties will resort to attacking the source, and not addressing the content of the post......if they even bother to read and respond.

Rading that should make every true American's blood run cold with fear!

Steve </div></div>

Sorry. Didn't have any effect on me.
I was against all that sh*t in the first place.

The only thing that made my blood run cold was your ignorant stereo-typing of all liberals.

Sev
08-28-2010, 06:08 PM
Notice the population difference in Canada.

pooltchr
08-28-2010, 07:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sorry. Didn't have any effect on me.
</div></div>

I'm not surprised.

Maybe I should have said that it should make the blood run cold for anyone who is concerned about the destruction of our country!

Steve

hondo
08-28-2010, 07:20 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sorry. Didn't have any effect on me.
</div></div>

I'm not surprised.

Maybe I should have said that it should make the blood run cold for anyone who is concerned about the destruction of our country!

Steve </div></div>

I noticed you left out my two key sentences in my post.
Don't you ever feel the need to take a shower after some of your slimy responses?

Stretch
08-28-2010, 11:08 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
We have strapped on a suicide vest with a timer and no kill switch.
Bring the chaos!!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp
Status: True.<span style='font-size: 11pt'>

We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington DC filled to capacity by many of America's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "FIRST, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."
Lamm went on: SECOND, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

THIRD, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together."
Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"FOURTH, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My FIFTH point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My SIXTH plan for America 's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" --From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, SEVENTH, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America , it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, EIGHTH, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book "Mexifornia." His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America . If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream. </span> </div></div>

What a pile of crap. Lamm is trying to scare everyone by saying that multiculturalism, tolerance, and diversity will ruin America and holds up Canada as a shinning example of the ruin that will happen to you if you go down that road. PLEASE listen to him. Stay down there and don't ever come up here to enjoy our world class hunting, fishing, high standard of living, Pristine environment, universal health care, great schools, good paying jobs, happy friendly people of all races and religions. Keep believing we all live in igloos, and freeze our asses off every winter. It keeps out the riff raff. Hell we don't even need to put up a fence along the longest unguarded boarder in the world because this is such a horrible fly infested, freezing waistland that KNOWBODY in their right mind would want to ever own land, a nice house, a good job and raise a family here.

I'm just waiting for all the far right to complete their ethnic cleansing, financing a few more wars, backing huge Corporations to screw over the working joes, and shipping all the jobs overseas to come down for a visit. Then you can tell me what a horrible place i live in while you hide behind locked doors, with loaded weapons paranoid about everything that moves. St.

Qtec
08-29-2010, 05:02 AM
Start building that fence Stretch.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote]9/11 Report:<span style='font-size: 17pt'> "Incontrovertible Evidence" that Saudi Gov’t Supported Hijackers</span>
The report also raises more questions about a foreign government’s complicity in the attacks: longtime U.S. ally, Saudi Arabia.

The report finds that the Saudi Arabian government thwarted efforts to prevent the rise of Al-Qaeda and stop attacks as well as provided financial and logistical support to the Saudi-born 9/11 hijackers. 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi Arabian.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>Large sections of the report explaining how the Saudis did not cooperate remains classified. The Washington Post reports an entire 28-page section detailing whether Saudi Arabia was somehow implicated in 9/11 is missing. This despite a seven-month campaign by congressional investigators and others to have them made public.</span>

The CIA argued that disclosure of the details could upset relations with a key US ally. </div></div>


There is a much better case to be argued that the Saudis are the enemy, not Islam.

A Saudi Price is the second biggest share holder in Fox News , thatīs a fact. They have the audacity to use him as a an example of someone who sponsors terrorism but neglect to mention he is one of their bosses.

The RW are busy trying to divide the country.
Black against White.
Black and White against Hispanics.
Everyone against the Muslims.

Its a constant stream of hate and intolerance, totally NOT America. The GOP have nothing to offer and so they continue to seek ways to divide Americans.

If the GOP have control you will need a huge fence to keep out the illegals, a new hobo generation of American migrants.


Q

pooltchr
08-29-2010, 06:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A Saudi Price is the second biggest share holder in Fox News , thatīs a fact. They have the audacity to use him as a an example of someone who sponsors terrorism
Q

</div></div>

I think you have just given us a great example of fair and balanced reporting. I would expect a more biased organization to go out of their way to avoid any negatave comments about a major shareholder.

Thank you.

Steve

Qtec
08-29-2010, 08:40 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A Saudi Price is the second biggest share holder in Fox News , thatīs a fact. They have the audacity to use him as a an example of someone who sponsors terrorism
Q

</div></div>

I think you have just given us a great example of fair and balanced reporting. I would expect a more biased organization to go out of their way to avoid any negatave comments about a major shareholder.

Thank you.

Steve </div></div>

Your average ignorant Fox viewer is not aware that the person they are talking about is the 2nd biggest shareholder of the Corp that owns Fox. <span style='font-size: 17pt'>Fox never mentioned his name.</span>
<span style='font-size: 20pt'>WHY NOT?</span>

watch (http://www.mediaite.com/online/jon-stewart-follows-the-money-claims-that-watching-fox-news-funds-terror-mosque/)

Its called irony.

Q

Sev
08-31-2010, 04:19 PM
We already have a thread on that.