View Full Version : Who is More Conservative: Ronald Reagan or Obama?

09-05-2010, 05:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 20pt'>"Facts are stubborn things."</span>

Cenk Uygur filling in for Dylan Ratigan again this week more or less rehashed his op-ed from The Huffington Post, <span style='font-size: 17pt'>Who is More Conservative: Ronald Reagan or Barack Obama?</span> As he noted in his column, Ronald Reagan:

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>-Gave Amnesty to Illegal Immigrants
-<u>Negotiated with Terrorists</u> (Traded Arms for Hostages with Iran)
-<u>Raised Taxes</u>
-Negotiated with the "Evil Empire" without Pre-conditions
-Made a Decision to "Cut and Run" From Lebanon After Our Troops Were Attacked </span></div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> the political line has moved so far that if Reagan tried to run as a Republican now he would be the laughing stock of the party. Rush Limbaugh would tear him to shreds and Bill Kristol would say he is Neville Chamberlain. He would be run out of town as a tax-raising, amnesty giving, terrorist negotiating, cut and run no-good lib who hates the troops.

And anyone who claims otherwise is being absurd. As Reagan once said, <span style='font-size: 20pt'>"Facts are stubborn things."</span> </div></div>

link (http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/cenk-political-line-has-moved-so-far-right)


09-05-2010, 05:30 AM
Barack shood win this one for the Gipper.

Gayle in MD
09-06-2010, 10:17 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He's right, things have shifted so far to the right that Ronald Reagan would be run out of town with today's Republican Party, not that it will stop them from practically raising his dead corpse as their great conservative icon while campaigning. Steve Benen has more here on the right's changing perceptions of Reagan as well.

A good example of their gross hypocracy, but then, they have been so committed to gaining the majority, regardless of how much their obstructionism hs hurt the country, and worsened our circumstances, they have consistantly voted against their own amendmennts!!!

You'll never see them do what is best for the country, that's for sure!

We'll be in non stop wars, with more tax cuts for the richest top one percent, more gross trashing of the environment, more deregulation of the crooked corporate fascists pigs, on Wall Street, more cancer from deregulations of air and water, oil wells, etc., and they'll still be spending and borrowing.

If they do gain majority, you can count on a depression.

Look how many of our current problems originated with Reagan!!!!

09-07-2010, 05:54 AM
Look how many replies to this thread? LOL Not even one off topic personal attack! Geez, they don't want to touch this subject. It would burst their bubble.

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Gayle in MD
09-07-2010, 06:00 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look how many replies to this thread? LOL Not even one off topic personal attack! Geez, they don't want to touch this subject. It would burst their bubble.

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Figures!. Just imagine if President Obama had done nothing after over two hundred Marines had been slaughtered in their sleep.

I notice there were also no responses to my thread about the RW Global Warming Skeptics, changing their minds.

I suppose now that 98% of scientists all over the world are warning us that Global Warming is real, and an urgent threat, it's not "Politically Correct" if you're a RW professional denier of facts, particularly since Republicans have been denying all the filth and devastation, from oil, for decades.

Gee, Remember when Carter tried to warn them. We were actually moving in the right direction back then. Tax credits for conservation efforts, by home owners. Higher Cafe' standards for the automobile industry. Carter, decades ahead of his time, warning us of our dependence on foreign oil, sold to us by the most radical, dangerous, countries in the world.

Oh, but that was before RR came in and completely took the country back into a full embrace of dangerous, dirty fuels, followed up by the Bush Oil Cartel, eight years in the White House, removing the cleaner goals for renewable fuels, and a cleaner environment.

Corporate Chemicals are trashing the environment, causing birth defects, high cancer rates, greater areas of the oceans of the world, dead or dying, particularly off the United States' coastline.

More Republicans in power?????? We need that like a hole in the head!