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llotter
10-15-2010, 04:57 PM
So, it now comes out that Code Pink and others were delivering cash and supplies to our enemy in Fullujah, Iraq while the battle was on-going and with days of the death of 51 Americans. This effort was assisted by Representatives Waxman, Kocinich, Grijalva and Senator Boxer. These traitors were acting directly to undermine the war effort for political reasons.

Has the bar gotten so low for the Dems that even treason is greeted with a 'so what'?

shape
10-15-2010, 10:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, it now comes out that Code Pink and others were delivering cash and supplies to our enemy in Fullujah, Iraq while the battle was on-going and with days of the death of 51 Americans. This effort was assisted by Representatives Waxman, Kocinich, Grijalva and Senator Boxer. </div></div> source, please

LWW
10-16-2010, 03:15 AM
Actually THIS (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/10/barbara_boxer_code_pinks_favor.html?utm_source=twi tterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) is old news.

You didn't really expect MSNBC and the rest of American Pravda headline this I hope.

LWW

llotter
10-16-2010, 05:00 AM
More specifically:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/10/aid_and_comfort_how_leading_de.html

shape
10-16-2010, 01:25 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You didn't really expect MSNBC and the rest of American Pravda headline this I hope. </div></div>I watch a lot of Fox. Don't remember the story and that's something I would have remembered. Maybe I missed that day. But you'd think they would have run that story for a few weeks.

Thanks for the link.

hondo
10-16-2010, 05:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, it now comes out that Code Pink and others were delivering cash and supplies to our enemy in Fullujah, Iraq while the battle was on-going and with days of the death of 51 Americans. This effort was assisted by Representatives Waxman, Kocinich, Grijalva and Senator Boxer. These traitors were acting directly to undermine the war effort for political reasons.

Has the bar gotten so low for the Dems that even treason is greeted with a 'so what'?

</div></div>

Truth vs. truthyness, again and again and again:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010130062


Hoft smears Boxer with completely fabricated claim that she helped CodePink give money to terrorists
October 13, 2010 11:07 pm ET by Ned Resnikoff

Another day, another outrageous allegation launched against a Democrat with zero evidence. The sensationalist, not even vaguely accurate Big Government headline from reliably inane blogger Jim Hoft states: "Barbara Boxer Approved Code Pink Trip to Fallujah to Donate $600,000 to Extremists." Hoft baselessly accused Sen. Boxer of "aiding and abetting terrorists to kill US soldiers," citing a recent American Thinker post that also provided no evidence for the claim. Here's the charge as laid out in the American Thinker by Scott Swett:

Code Pink delivered $600,000 in cash and supplies to the very insurgents the Marines had been fighting against - quite literally giving aid and comfort to America's enemies in a time of war. As noted in Islam Online, a diplomatic courtesy letter from Barbara Boxer helped make the trip possible.

In fact, the Islam Online article cited by Swett notes that the $600,000 raised by Code Pink, military family members and other organizations was for "humanitarian aid to the refugees of the war-torn city of Fallujah," not insurgents. As Reuters reported on December 3, 2004, "More than 200,000 people who fled Fallujah ahead of the US offensive have yet to return and many are in desperate need of aid, with temperatures in Iraq heading towards freezing, a new UN emergency report says."

The suggestion that this was somehow "aiding and abetting terrorists" is a total fabrication. As Nadia McCaffrey -- who joined the humanitarian aid delegation that delivered the money trip after losing her son in Iraq - told Rick Sanchez on the May 30, 2005 edition of CNN's Newsnight (accessed via Nexis):

NADIA MCCAFFREY, MOTHER OF KILLED U.S. SOLDIER: The day he decided to enlist, the day after 9/11. He didn't thought a second that he would be one day deployed to Iraq and end up his life there. Patrick was the first combat death in 58 years, the first soldier, National Guard to be killed in action in 58 years from California. He believed in the goodness of his country and his people. And he stood up for that to the moment he was killed. He was attacked by both sides of his body, through his vest.

And even wounded, he run to the other soldier to make a shield of himself. This picture is the one that was taken 40 minutes before his death. And the flowers that he has, that he is holding were given by the children.

He also, I'll show you after, took a picture at the same time of a little girl from the Humvee who was giving him a big flower that he later will have in his hand, holding her little brother. And that says it all. He would say to us -- you know, he would call every day and he would say to us, the children are my highlight.

I think the gesture that we did, not just me, but the other parents, mothers, to go and meet with other parents and give the humanitarian aid of $600,000 for the children of Fallujah, that this was the most important thing, really. The children didn't start to war.

Hoft, Swett, and the others in the right-wing blogosphere peddling this story should get their facts straight before they start smearing people like McCaffrey in an attempt tryto score cheap points against Senator Boxer. Their baseless accusations are bad enough, but they can't even get the fundamental details of the story correctly: Hoft says the delegation "traveled to Fallujah," but a December 28, 2004, AP article on the trip itself has them only going as far as Jordan, reporting: "Parents of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq emotionally expressed their opposition to the war and occupation Tuesday during a visit to Jordan as part of a humanitarian aid campaign to help Iraqis displaced by fighting in Fallujah last month" [accessed via Nexis].

Hoft recently set a standard for Democrats: Don't launch "disgusting attacks" without evidence to back them up. But here he is accusing Boxer of abetting terrorism. It's been nearly six years since the humanitarian aid was delivered; and Hoft can't find a shred of evidence to support his outrageous allegation.

Qtec
10-16-2010, 06:01 PM
Why do you never link to these things you claim?

Don't know how?

On other boards if you don't provide a link your post gets deleted.

BTW, you made the claim. Provide evidence that Code Pink provided cash.


Put up or shut up, themīs the rules.......or do you prefer anarchy.

Q

pooltchr
10-16-2010, 06:53 PM
Links don't mean anything. For every link you can find to support a story, I can find one to refute it.

What is wrong with actually thinking for yourself? Why must we have someone else's words?

When did common sense, independent thinking become wrong?

Steve

Qtec
10-16-2010, 07:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>Links don't mean anything. </span> <span style="color: #990000">Yes they do.</span>For every link you can find to support a story, I can find one to refute it.<span style="color: #990000">But it is accurate? Does it contain facts or opinions? </span>

What is wrong with actually thinking for yourself? <span style="color: #990000">I do think for myself, do you</span> Why must we have someone else's words?

When did common sense, independent thinking become wrong?

Steve </div></div>

Earth calling Steve.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, it now comes out that Code Pink and others were delivering cash and supplies to our enemy in Fullujah, Iraq while the battle was on-going and with days of the death of 51 Americans. </div></div>

Rubbish, don't believe a word of it. Everyone with a brain knows that this bogus story has been debunked big time. ITS A LOAD OF CRAP.




Better.


Q

hondo
10-16-2010, 07:40 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, it now comes out that Code Pink and others were delivering cash and supplies to our enemy in Fullujah, Iraq while the battle was on-going and with days of the death of 51 Americans. This effort was assisted by Representatives Waxman, Kocinich, Grijalva and Senator Boxer. These traitors were acting directly to undermine the war effort for political reasons.

Has the bar gotten so low for the Dems that even treason is greeted with a 'so what'?

</div></div>

Truth vs. truthyness, again and again and again:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010130062


Hoft smears Boxer with completely fabricated claim that she helped CodePink give money to terrorists
October 13, 2010 11:07 pm ET by Ned Resnikoff

Another day, another outrageous allegation launched against a Democrat with zero evidence. The sensationalist, not even vaguely accurate Big Government headline from reliably inane blogger Jim Hoft states: "Barbara Boxer Approved Code Pink Trip to Fallujah to Donate $600,000 to Extremists." Hoft baselessly accused Sen. Boxer of "aiding and abetting terrorists to kill US soldiers," citing a recent American Thinker post that also provided no evidence for the claim. Here's the charge as laid out in the American Thinker by Scott Swett:

Code Pink delivered $600,000 in cash and supplies to the very insurgents the Marines had been fighting against - quite literally giving aid and comfort to America's enemies in a time of war. As noted in Islam Online, a diplomatic courtesy letter from Barbara Boxer helped make the trip possible.

In fact, the Islam Online article cited by Swett notes that the $600,000 raised by Code Pink, military family members and other organizations was for "humanitarian aid to the refugees of the war-torn city of Fallujah," not insurgents. As Reuters reported on December 3, 2004, "More than 200,000 people who fled Fallujah ahead of the US offensive have yet to return and many are in desperate need of aid, with temperatures in Iraq heading towards freezing, a new UN emergency report says."

The suggestion that this was somehow "aiding and abetting terrorists" is a total fabrication. As Nadia McCaffrey -- who joined the humanitarian aid delegation that delivered the money trip after losing her son in Iraq - told Rick Sanchez on the May 30, 2005 edition of CNN's Newsnight (accessed via Nexis):

NADIA MCCAFFREY, MOTHER OF KILLED U.S. SOLDIER: The day he decided to enlist, the day after 9/11. He didn't thought a second that he would be one day deployed to Iraq and end up his life there. Patrick was the first combat death in 58 years, the first soldier, National Guard to be killed in action in 58 years from California. He believed in the goodness of his country and his people. And he stood up for that to the moment he was killed. He was attacked by both sides of his body, through his vest.

And even wounded, he run to the other soldier to make a shield of himself. This picture is the one that was taken 40 minutes before his death. And the flowers that he has, that he is holding were given by the children.

He also, I'll show you after, took a picture at the same time of a little girl from the Humvee who was giving him a big flower that he later will have in his hand, holding her little brother. And that says it all. He would say to us -- you know, he would call every day and he would say to us, the children are my highlight.

I think the gesture that we did, not just me, but the other parents, mothers, to go and meet with other parents and give the humanitarian aid of $600,000 for the children of Fallujah, that this was the most important thing, really. The children didn't start to war.

Hoft, Swett, and the others in the right-wing blogosphere peddling this story should get their facts straight before they start smearing people like McCaffrey in an attempt tryto score cheap points against Senator Boxer. Their baseless accusations are bad enough, but they can't even get the fundamental details of the story correctly: Hoft says the delegation "traveled to Fallujah," but a December 28, 2004, AP article on the trip itself has them only going as far as Jordan, reporting: "Parents of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq emotionally expressed their opposition to the war and occupation Tuesday during a visit to Jordan as part of a humanitarian aid campaign to help Iraqis displaced by fighting in Fallujah last month" [accessed via Nexis].

Hoft recently set a standard for Democrats: Don't launch "disgusting attacks" without evidence to back them up. But here he is accusing Boxer of abetting terrorism. It's been nearly six years since the humanitarian aid was delivered; and Hoft can't find a shred of evidence to support his outrageous allegation.
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Linky Dinky Doo, Stevie Roo and Larry Lotter too. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

pooltchr
10-16-2010, 08:47 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Linky Dinky Doo, Stevie Roo and Larry Lotter too. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif </div></div>

Very adult of you, houndo. You're really starting to act like a big boy. We're all so proud of you!

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Steve

LWW
10-17-2010, 02:19 AM
They have.

LWW

LWW
10-17-2010, 02:21 AM
That was just precious ... your source "PROVES" that it didn't happen by confirming that it did.

We have always been at war With Eurasia haven't we Aitch?

LWW

hondo
10-17-2010, 07:24 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, it now comes out that Code Pink and others were delivering cash and supplies to our enemy in Fullujah, Iraq while the battle was on-going and with days of the death of 51 Americans. This effort was assisted by Representatives Waxman, Kocinich, Grijalva and Senator Boxer. These traitors were acting directly to undermine the war effort for political reasons.

Has the bar gotten so low for the Dems that even treason is greeted with a 'so what'?

</div></div>

Truth vs. truthyness, again and again and again:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010130062


Hoft smears Boxer with completely fabricated claim that she helped CodePink give money to terrorists
October 13, 2010 11:07 pm ET by Ned Resnikoff

Another day, another outrageous allegation launched against a Democrat with zero evidence. The sensationalist, not even vaguely accurate Big Government headline from reliably inane blogger Jim Hoft states: "Barbara Boxer Approved Code Pink Trip to Fallujah to Donate $600,000 to Extremists." Hoft baselessly accused Sen. Boxer of "aiding and abetting terrorists to kill US soldiers," citing a recent American Thinker post that also provided no evidence for the claim. Here's the charge as laid out in the American Thinker by Scott Swett:

Code Pink delivered $600,000 in cash and supplies to the very insurgents the Marines had been fighting against - quite literally giving aid and comfort to America's enemies in a time of war. As noted in Islam Online, a diplomatic courtesy letter from Barbara Boxer helped make the trip possible.

In fact, the Islam Online article cited by Swett notes that the $600,000 raised by Code Pink, military family members and other organizations was for "humanitarian aid to the refugees of the war-torn city of Fallujah," not insurgents. As Reuters reported on December 3, 2004, "More than 200,000 people who fled Fallujah ahead of the US offensive have yet to return and many are in desperate need of aid, with temperatures in Iraq heading towards freezing, a new UN emergency report says."

The suggestion that this was somehow "aiding and abetting terrorists" is a total fabrication. As Nadia McCaffrey -- who joined the humanitarian aid delegation that delivered the money trip after losing her son in Iraq - told Rick Sanchez on the May 30, 2005 edition of CNN's Newsnight (accessed via Nexis):

NADIA MCCAFFREY, MOTHER OF KILLED U.S. SOLDIER: The day he decided to enlist, the day after 9/11. He didn't thought a second that he would be one day deployed to Iraq and end up his life there. Patrick was the first combat death in 58 years, the first soldier, National Guard to be killed in action in 58 years from California. He believed in the goodness of his country and his people. And he stood up for that to the moment he was killed. He was attacked by both sides of his body, through his vest.

And even wounded, he run to the other soldier to make a shield of himself. This picture is the one that was taken 40 minutes before his death. And the flowers that he has, that he is holding were given by the children.

He also, I'll show you after, took a picture at the same time of a little girl from the Humvee who was giving him a big flower that he later will have in his hand, holding her little brother. And that says it all. He would say to us -- you know, he would call every day and he would say to us, the children are my highlight.

I think the gesture that we did, not just me, but the other parents, mothers, to go and meet with other parents and give the humanitarian aid of $600,000 for the children of Fallujah, that this was the most important thing, really. The children didn't start to war.

Hoft, Swett, and the others in the right-wing blogosphere peddling this story should get their facts straight before they start smearing people like McCaffrey in an attempt tryto score cheap points against Senator Boxer. Their baseless accusations are bad enough, but they can't even get the fundamental details of the story correctly: Hoft says the delegation "traveled to Fallujah," but a December 28, 2004, AP article on the trip itself has them only going as far as Jordan, reporting: "Parents of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq emotionally expressed their opposition to the war and occupation Tuesday during a visit to Jordan as part of a humanitarian aid campaign to help Iraqis displaced by fighting in Fallujah last month" [accessed via Nexis].

Hoft recently set a standard for Democrats: Don't launch "disgusting attacks" without evidence to back them up. But here he is accusing Boxer of abetting terrorism. It's been nearly six years since the humanitarian aid was delivered; and Hoft can't find a shred of evidence to support his outrageous allegation.
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And here is why I don't even bother to have a discussion with the Killer B's anymore. What's the point?
Steve pretends like I didn't post this and lww says it doessn't say wahat it says it says. LOL! B's, no, you're not on ignore.
You just aren't worth paying much attention to.


That was just precious ... your source "PROVES" that it didn't happen by confirming that it did.



LWW

LWW
10-17-2010, 08:48 AM
Still owned by the "QUOTE" function I see.

LWW

eg8r
10-18-2010, 07:47 AM
Where is a link to this?

eg8r

eg8r
10-18-2010, 07:49 AM
I am with qtip. If you are going to make accusation, at least give us something to read about the subject. There is no way llotter was able to dream this stuff up on his own.

eg8r

llotter
10-18-2010, 09:04 AM
http://bigpeace.com/bpatterson/2010/10/1...nd-jihad-jodie/ (http://bigpeace.com/bpatterson/2010/10/15/treason-in-america-move-over-hanoi-jane-meet-baghdad-barbara-weasel-waxman-and-jihad-jodie/)

This source seems far more reliable that the young kid from Media Matters who spews the party line with no intelligence or experience.

hondo
10-18-2010, 06:44 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am with qtip. If you are going to make accusation, at least give us something to read about the subject. There is no way llotter was able to dream this stuff up on his own.

eg8r </div></div>

I provided a link that discredits the accusation.
Of course lww says my link doesn't say what it says and pooltchr and Lotter ignore it.
And the beat goes on. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif

LWW
10-19-2010, 02:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am with qtip. If you are going to make accusation, at least give us something to read about the subject. There is no way llotter was able to dream this stuff up on his own.

eg8r </div></div>

I provided a link that discredits the accusation.
Of course lww says my link doesn't say what it says and pooltchr and Lotter ignore it.
And the beat goes on. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif </div></div>

Actually, you provided one that supports it.

But, then again, I read it ... you seem to not have read it.

LWW

Gayle in MD
06-21-2011, 08:09 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, it now comes out that Code Pink and others were delivering cash and supplies to our enemy in Fullujah, Iraq while the battle was on-going and with days of the death of 51 Americans. This effort was assisted by Representatives Waxman, Kocinich, Grijalva and Senator Boxer. These traitors were acting directly to undermine the war effort for political reasons.

Has the bar gotten so low for the Dems that even treason is greeted with a 'so what'?

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LMAO!

Since when did TREASON, bother any of YOU righties!

Gayle in MD
06-21-2011, 08:24 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">More specifically:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/10/aid_and_comfort_how_leading_de.html </div></div>

BWA HA HA HA....

Still brain washed I see.

The American Thinker is a daily <span style='font-size: 17pt'>conservative online magazine</span>[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Thinker


LMAO! The American Thinker, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif by Thomas Lifson, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
who runs the American Thinker?

The brilliant guy who wrote this prediction?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Republicans are thrilled by what they see in Sarah Palin. Reform Republicanism with a younger generation in charge could knock the left out of power for a generation. The genius Bobby Jindal, out to reform Louisiana as Palin reformed Alaska, awaits the 2012 VP nomination with Sarah at the top of the ticket, if McCain wins this election. Suddenly the Republicans have a claim on being the vote for change.



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You're sooooooooooooooo out there!

LWW
06-21-2011, 04:13 PM
You might make some hay if you could actually argue against the message.