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Gayle in MD
10-23-2010, 05:29 AM
<span style="color: #FF6666"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Yet another, and the latest, Republican NUTJOB, in a long list of Republican NUTJOBS, threatening a violent take over of the Government.

I wonder how much time our FBI has to divert from staying on top of foreign terrorists, in order to keep track of alol of the radical RW nuts, who have threatened a violoent take over of our government.... </span> </span>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They say alot of strange things come out of Texas. Earlier this year we heard elected officials like state rep Debbie Riddle talk about how this country needed to be wary of so-called Terror babies.

We heard another official, state rep Betty Brown insists that Asian people need to get English names. We heard the sitting governor Rick Perry threaten to haveTexas secede from the union.

If all that wasn’t enough we had to endure the literal white washing and re-writing of Texas History books by a far right fanatical group that took over the Texas State Board of Education.

Over the past year we seen disgruntled Texan Fausto Cardenas shoot up the state capitol a while an angry Joseph Andrew Stack flew his plane into an IRS building killing former 20 year army veteran Vernon Hunter.

Yes a lot of strange things go on in that state and far too often with violent consequences. Should we be concerned? Based on the history absolutely. This is why many in the Lone Star state aren’t laughing at the outlandish remarks made by GOP candidate Stephen Broden who threatened violence if the Republicans don’t get their way.

According to the Dallas Morning News, Broden a South Dallas Pastor who is squaring off against long time incumbent Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson in Dallas’ 30th Congressional District, said a violent uprising is not the first option but it’s on the table.

Broden explained in an interview with WFAA TV reporter Brad Watson “If the government is not producing the results or has become destructive to the ends of our liberties, we have a right to get rid of that government and to get rid of it by any means necessary,”.

He added to his remarks that the United States was founded on a violent revolt against Britain’s King George III and if we have a constitution remedy to Barack Obama administration which he sees as tyrannical. Broden feels the answer is ‘revolution the violent over throw of the government.

GOP leaders distanced themselves from his remarks, but stop short of calling for his ouster. Could you imagine if someone who was Muslim said this while running for office? How does a Pastor like Stephen Broden justify threatening violence if the GOP doesn’t win? What part of the Bible was he reading? We should all be appalled.




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http://zennie2005.blogspot.com/2010/10/state-of-texas-is-at-again-gop.html


video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvSIrR7itSw

LWW
10-23-2010, 05:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> GOP NUT Threatening Violent Take Over If R's Lose</div></div>

Can you show me where they actually said that?

What's that?

They didn't actually say that?

What they actually said was:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">“If the government is not producing the results or has become destructive to the ends of our liberties, we have a right to get rid of that government and to get rid of it by any means necessary,”</div></div>

Do you know who or what was loosely being quoted?
LEARN: (http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/doi/text.html)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. <span style='font-size: 11pt'>That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.</span> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government</span>, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."
-Thomas Jefferson-
US Declaration of Independence
4 July, 1776</div></div>

After the ignorance which public education installs on so many, I commend you for sending your own children to private schools so that they have a chance at a decent education.

LWW

LWW
10-23-2010, 05:57 AM
Your opposition to the youtube video proves, better than anything I could ever state, your hatred of the US republic and the COTUS.

LWW

pooltchr
10-23-2010, 07:44 AM
It was another opportunity for her to continue her endless attacks on the GOP. Notice the thread title serves only to attempt to label the GOP as "nut jobs".

Mindless, vicious, hate filled, bitter old woman.

Nothing new.

Steve

Deeman3
10-23-2010, 08:22 AM
Gee, if a radical group was threatening to take over the U.S. you think they would be outted, prosecuted and ostracized by all, of course unless they are Radical Muslims! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
Mostof the nuts she mentions have more affiliations with the left then the right.

It is getting despartely late in the campaign is it not? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Gayle in MD
10-23-2010, 08:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gee, if a radical group was threatening to take over the U.S. you think they would be outted, prosecuted and ostracized by all, of course unless they are Radical Muslims! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
Mostof the nuts she mentions have more affiliations with the left then the right.

It is getting despartely late in the campaign is it not? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mostof the nuts she mentions have more affiliations with the left then the right.

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How do you arrive at that conclusion, Deeman, we Know for a FACT that they are all running on the Republican ticket.

G.

Deeman3
10-23-2010, 10:07 AM
Texan Fausto Cardenas shoot up the state capitol a while an angry Joseph Andrew Stack flew

Just what office are they running for?

LWW
10-23-2010, 12:08 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
How do you arrive at that conclusion, Deeman, we Know for a FACT that they are all running on the Republican ticket.

G. </div></div>

Completely without relevance.

You started a thread with a sensationalist title.

Your OP presented absolutely nothing, other than a paraphrasing of the US D of I as penned by Thomas Jefferson.

Since that, you have posted nothing which supports your ridiculous contention.

You were acting, again, as an agitprop.

You have been called on it by more than one member.

Your choices now are to either slink away from this nonsense, present evidence supporting your Alinskyesque claim ... which we all know you can't, or continue making yourself look ever more silly.

LWW

pooltchr
10-23-2010, 01:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Your choices now are to either slink away from this nonsense, present evidence supporting your Alinskyesque claim ... which we all know you can't, or continue making yourself look ever more silly.

LWW </div></div>

I'm betting she chooses "C", as she has been for years.

Steve

sack316
10-23-2010, 01:37 PM
Funny how Van Jones has been quoted with saying much, much worse things (or at best, just as bad) but he was a victim when it came back and bit him

Sack

pooltchr
10-23-2010, 04:37 PM
The lefties are all victims. They enjoy being victims. It removes any responsibility for their actions.

Everything they do is someone else's fault.

Blame Bush
Blame Chaney
Blame religion
Blame Republicans
Blame southerners.

Hell, I'm still getting blamed for people getting banned around here.

Poor, poor, babies.

Steve

hondo
10-23-2010, 06:08 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Mostof the nuts she mentions have more affiliations with the left then the right.

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???? Who?
Obviously not the tea partiers.
What started out as a fringe element of the Republican Party has become the Republican Party.

Gayle in MD
10-23-2010, 07:28 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Mostof the nuts she mentions have more affiliations with the left then the right.

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???? Who?
Obviously not the tea partiers.
What started out as a fringe element of the Republican Party has become the Republican Party. </div></div>

Yes, and he is not the first to say that, as we also know, that Angle also called for a "second amendment remedy" for getting rid of Democratics, as well as saying she wanted to "Take out" Harry Reid.

Palin used gun site icons, to indicate those Democratics, she targeted on her campaign map, as she advised her followers, to "Re-load"

We've seen a candidate use his own thugs to put hand cuffs on a reporter, just for asking a question of the candidate, a man runniimg for public office???????????????

These are the people who speak of liberty? The Constitution? Free speech?

What a total crock! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif

G.

Qtec
10-23-2010, 07:40 PM
link (http://www.wfaa.com/news/politics/Broden-on-population-control-Nazis-and-revolution-105484458.html)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When asked if he thought if comparing Nazi Germany to the United States in 2010 is an accurate comparison he said: "No. There was a principle there that I was trying to connect with our current situation."

Broden said in June 2009 before a Fort Worth audience that there is a solution.

"We have a constitutional remedy here, and the framers said, if that don't work — revolution."

Broden said Thursday that revolution, in his view, first comes at the ballot box. But he said violent overthrow is an option.

"Our nation was founded on violence; the option is on the table," he said. "I don't think that we should ever remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms."

"<span style='font-size: 14pt'>We have a right to get rid of that government and to get rid of it<u> by any means necessary</u>,</span>" Broden added. </div></div>

No you don't Ahole.

There is a constitutional remedy, its called an election.

Geez, the fruity nutjob RW thinks it has the right to attack the US Govt [ and the majority of Americans] because it's side lost the election...????

Q...if was is a Muslim he would be in big trouble for advocating the overthrow of the USA.

LWW
10-24-2010, 04:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> No you don't Ahole.

There is a constitutional remedy, its called an election. </div></div>

Ummmm ... yes we do. It's also in the COTUS:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. </div></div>

You may be happy living in an unarmed nation eternally behold to your state masters. We on this side of the pond have always have more stones than that.

The second, much to the far left's agony, was written in such a manner that "WE THE PEOPLE" always had sufficient firepower to stand up to a standing army.

That's why the commas were placed where they were ... much to the far left's pain ... a standing army was needed for defense of national borders against enemies of freedom from without.

A well armed and vigilant populace was needed for defense against enemies of freedom from within.

The signers of the COTUS were unanimous in this belief. The documents fathers ... Jay, Hamilton, and Madison ... went into it in great detail in the "Federalist Papers" and Jefferson was quite eloquent on the topic in the D of I.

From your side of the pond, you can take solace in believing that us a-hole Uhmuricanz will once again spend US blood and treasure to rescue from the tyranny which is forming around Europe as we speak.

LWW

Qtec
10-25-2010, 06:01 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, <span style='font-size: 17pt'>it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government,</span> </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>You can.......Its called an ELECTION.</span>

Q

pooltchr
10-25-2010, 06:44 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, <span style='font-size: 17pt'>it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government,</span> </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>You can.......Its called an ELECTION.</span>

Q </div></div>

We alter our government by way of elections, and ultimately legislation. But when that is not effective, abolish means to get rid of it and start anew.
Now let me ask you....do you think the Dems and Reps are going to willingly give up their power, just because it is the will of the people?
It may take more drastic measures to get our government back to the place where they answer to the people and not to the party leadership.

Steve

Qtec
10-25-2010, 07:23 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">do you think the Dems and Reps are going to willingly give up their power, just because it is the will of the people? </div></div>

This is why you need a third party and maybe a fourth.


Q

pooltchr
10-25-2010, 08:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">do you think the Dems and Reps are going to willingly give up their power, just because it is the will of the people? </div></div>

This is why you need a third party and maybe a fourth.


Q </div></div>

Finally, an intelligent post!

Thank you!!!!!!!!

Steve

sack316
10-26-2010, 04:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">do you think the Dems and Reps are going to willingly give up their power, just because it is the will of the people? </div></div>

This is why you need a third party and maybe a fourth.


Q </div></div>

Finally, an intelligent post!

Thank you!!!!!!!!

Steve </div></div>

The problem with that is then with say 4 parties, it's possible only 26% would be required to win. Entirely possible that only one in four people will be happy with what's in office. Oh... wait... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Sack

Qtec
10-26-2010, 05:16 AM
What happens then is that the majority party has to form a coalition with other parties in order to govern. This way everyone has to compromise. ie more people,s views are represented.

In the USA its an ´either or´ situation.

Q

pooltchr
10-26-2010, 07:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Entirely possible that only one in four people will be happy with what's in office. Oh... wait... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Sack

</div></div>

Good one!

Steve

pooltchr
10-26-2010, 08:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Entirely possible that only one in four people will be happy with what's in office. Oh... wait... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Sack </div></div>

Good one!!!

Steve

pooltchr
10-26-2010, 08:03 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Entirely possible that only one in four people will be happy with what's in office. Oh... wait... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Sack </div></div>


Good One!!

Steve

Gayle in MD
10-26-2010, 08:17 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What happens then is that the majority party has to form a coalition with other parties in order to govern. This way everyone has to compromise. ie more people,s views are represented.

In the USA its an ´either or´ situation.

Q </div></div>


<span style="color: #FF0000">Compromise is exactly what the Republicans refused to do. Like little children, and as always, they stomped their filthy little feet and refused to vote for even their own Republican Policies.

Their only goal is to win power, and get all of that cash now completely under the table, thanks to the RW Acivist Supreme Court's recent, Fascist ruling, from the same crooks who ruined everything for all of the rest of us, and have been stealing from the til for ten years, thanks to Bush's Taxing, Warring, deregulation, no bid policies, which led to our demise.

The Bush Administration had to hide all of the corrupt accounting tricks, that were going on in the corporate and financial world, because Halliburton and The Carlyle Group, were at the top of the list of corrupt corporations, lying about their profits, and stealing from the country.

As you can see, friend, the right is just chomping at the bit, to pull out their beloved guns.

I hope they do it, as we can be rid of all of them, if they do.

These Nutjob Bubbas from the flyover states, are no match for the Military Industrial Complex, LMAO!</span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

eg8r
10-26-2010, 08:36 AM
There isn't going to be a third party. What is going to happen with the TP movement is that we are going to have less "centrist" politicians. Definitely not a good thing if you ask me.

eg8r

hondo
10-26-2010, 09:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Entirely possible that only one in four people will be happy with what's in office. Oh... wait... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Sack

</div></div>

Good one!

Steve </div></div>

Good one!

Steve

hondo
10-26-2010, 09:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Entirely possible that only one in four people will be happy with what's in office. Oh... wait... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Sack </div></div>

Good one!!!

Steve </div></div>

Good one!!!

Steve

hondo
10-26-2010, 09:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Entirely possible that only one in four people will be happy with what's in office. Oh... wait... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Sack </div></div>


Good One!!

Steve </div></div>

Good one !!

Steve

hondo
10-26-2010, 09:09 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">do you think the Dems and Reps are going to willingly give up their power, just because it is the will of the people? </div></div>

This is why you need a third party and maybe a fourth.


Q </div></div>

Finally, an intelligent post!

Thank you!!!!!!!!

Steve </div></div>

The problem with that is then with say 4 parties, it's possible only 26% would be required to win. Entirely possible that only one in four people will be happy with what's in office. Oh... wait... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Sack </div></div>

Good one!!!!

Steve

hondo
10-26-2010, 09:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There isn't going to be a third party. What is going to happen with the TP movement is that we are going to have less "centrist" politicians. Definitely not a good thing if you ask me.

eg8r </div></div>

Eg, what gets me is how they keep calling the Tea Party a third party.
Then why are they on the Republican ballot?

Gayle in MD
10-26-2010, 09:51 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There isn't going to be a third party. What is going to happen with the TP movement is that we are going to have less "centrist" politicians. Definitely not a good thing if you ask me.

eg8r </div></div>

Eg, what gets me is how they keep calling the Tea Party a third party.
Then why are they on the Republican ballot? </div></div>

<span style="color: #FF0000">IMO, there are plenty of old line Republicans who are worried about what a mess they will have on their hands, from whatever Tea Party Nutjobs they end up having to deal with.

It could end up being their worst nightmare.

When stupid people who obviously realize how stupid they are, since they have been running from questioning reporters, aka The Free Press, lol, so they don't chance exposing their own gross ignorance, it's just the senario that crooks like the Koch Brothers thrive on. Gridlock produces more opportunities for the crooks.

Repubs will end up cursing Palin, Beck and the nutjobs who believe their lies.

G.</span>

Gayle in MD
10-26-2010, 10:03 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gee, if a radical group was threatening to take over the U.S. you think they would be outted, prosecuted and ostracized by all, of course unless they are Radical Muslims! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
Mostof the nuts she mentions have more affiliations with the left then the right.

It is getting despartely late in the campaign is it not? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>


The Southern Poverty Law Center counted 932 active hate groups in the United States in 2009. Only organizations and their chapters known to be active during 2009 are included.

All hate groups have beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics.

This list was compiled using hate group publications and websites, citizen and law enforcement reports, field sources and news reports.

Hate group activities can include criminal acts, marches, rallies, speeches, meetings, leafleting or publishing. Websites appearing to be merely the work of a single individual, rather than the publication of a group, are not included in this list. Listing here does not imply a group advocates or engages in violence or other criminal activity.



See the hate map:


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pooltchr
10-26-2010, 12:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

All hate groups have beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics.

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You mean people who, for example, hate all Republicans? Or people who hate all conservatives? Or people who hate all southerners? Or people who hate those who live in "fly over" states? Or people who point out the hypocracy of the left? Or people who see that Obama is a danger to this country?

What is the name of your hate group????????

Steve

Deeman3
10-26-2010, 01:41 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gee, if a radical group was threatening to take over the U.S. you think they would be outted, prosecuted and ostracized by all, of course unless they are Radical Muslims! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
Mostof the nuts she mentions have more affiliations with the left then the right.

It is getting despartely late in the campaign is it not? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>


The Southern Poverty Law Center counted 932 active hate groups in the United States in 2009. Only organizations and their chapters known to be active during 2009 are included.

All hate groups have beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics.

This list was compiled using hate group publications and websites, citizen and law enforcement reports, field sources and news reports.

Hate group activities can include criminal acts, marches, rallies, speeches, meetings, leafleting or publishing. Websites appearing to be merely the work of a single individual, rather than the publication of a group, are not included in this list. Listing here does not imply a group advocates or engages in violence or other criminal activity.



See the hate map:


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map
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<span style="color: #FF0000">Good information here. I think you will remember that most of us on here have denounced such groups in the past and continue to do so. They are mosltly cowardly groups who threaten with sheets over their heads or with batons outside polling places and gather in secret groups, afraid to openly show who they are and defend their positions.

As much as you want it to be, they don't represent me, the vast majority of the right just as the New Black Panthers don't represent majority of blacks. They are a minor threat in most cases but are and should be watched for illegal activity. </span>

eg8r
10-26-2010, 02:38 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IMO, there are plenty of old line Republicans who are worried about what a mess they will have on their hands, from whatever Tea Party Nutjobs they end up having to deal with.

It could end up being their worst nightmare.

</div></div>I don't disagree and I think it is a good thing. What I don't like is that the TP Movement is polarizing the two parties and it is removing the "centrist" politicians which I think are most important.

eg8r

sack316
10-26-2010, 03:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gee, if a radical group was threatening to take over the U.S. you think they would be outted, prosecuted and ostracized by all, of course unless they are Radical Muslims! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
Mostof the nuts she mentions have more affiliations with the left then the right.

It is getting despartely late in the campaign is it not? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>


The Southern Poverty Law Center counted 932 active hate groups in the United States in 2009. Only organizations and their chapters known to be active during 2009 are included.

All hate groups have beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics.

This list was compiled using hate group publications and websites, citizen and law enforcement reports, field sources and news reports.

Hate group activities can include criminal acts, marches, rallies, speeches, meetings, leafleting or publishing. Websites appearing to be merely the work of a single individual, rather than the publication of a group, are not included in this list. Listing here does not imply a group advocates or engages in violence or other criminal activity.



See the hate map:


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map
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Replied more thoroughly in the other thread... but you do realize this map proves my contention from all along about hate, racism, etc. and how it is non-exclusive to the south? That it is prevalent in the north as well, and in many instances even more prevalent?

Sack--- hates hate

Gayle in MD
10-26-2010, 03:49 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gee, if a radical group was threatening to take over the U.S. you think they would be outted, prosecuted and ostracized by all, of course unless they are Radical Muslims! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
Mostof the nuts she mentions have more affiliations with the left then the right.

It is getting despartely late in the campaign is it not? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>


The Southern Poverty Law Center counted 932 active hate groups in the United States in 2009. Only organizations and their chapters known to be active during 2009 are included.

All hate groups have beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics.

This list was compiled using hate group publications and websites, citizen and law enforcement reports, field sources and news reports.

Hate group activities can include criminal acts, marches, rallies, speeches, meetings, leafleting or publishing. Websites appearing to be merely the work of a single individual, rather than the publication of a group, are not included in this list. Listing here does not imply a group advocates or engages in violence or other criminal activity.



See the hate map:


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map
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Replied more thoroughly in the other thread... but you do realize this map proves my contention from all along about hate, racism, etc. and how it is non-exclusive to the south? That it is prevalent in the north as well, and in many instances even more prevalent?

Sack--- hates hate </div></div>

Actually, Sack, what I think we are both seeing, in violent crime rates, is results of the invasion of illegal alien drug gangs, which, I have read, are in every American city, across the country.

I think racism exists all over our country, sadly. And I also think people cannot judge every single African American, for example, or all Muslims, by the actions of a few.

My worst fear is that the economy will not hold up to keeping more law enforcement officers working full time, to put them in jail, and custom officers, to send them back.

And also, again, I think it would have made more sense to invade Mexico, than Iraq. We could have wiped out the crime element in Mexico in no time, where as all of our losses in Iraq, have only made matters worse there, and here, given that "The Surge" obviously failed, and we see now, that Iraq, is fighting their civil war, as they have been doing all along, since 2003.

I'd really like to see more strict legal remedies, for illegal aliens, like, if you come to this country, illegally, and you're involved in any crime of violence, it's Life in prison, but life with hard labor, and no perks.

We certainly need much more mandatory jail time involved, also, for the companies who hire illegal immigrants. If we could stop them from exploiting the cheap labor, from across our borders, they wouldn't keep on coming. As we see, many have gone back since the economy got so bad.

When you view the map I provided, do you not see any difference between your statistics, and those on the map?

G.

sack316
10-26-2010, 04:14 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I think racism exists all over our country, sadly.
</div></div>

THANK YOU! That's what I've been saying all along!

Yes we in the south have our problems, and the most publicized examples of racism in our past. Yes we still have instances of ignorance and racism. But it IS everywhere, and has always been everywhere in this country. We just happen to have the stereotype of being the racist part of the country. And buying into that stereotype is no different than any other... discriminatory, defamatory, and generally inaccurate.

Sack

Gayle in MD
10-26-2010, 04:55 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I think racism exists all over our country, sadly.
</div></div>

THANK YOU! That's what I've been saying all along!

Yes we in the south have our problems, and the most publicized examples of racism in our past. Yes we still have instances of ignorance and racism. But it IS everywhere, and has always been everywhere in this country. We just happen to have the stereotype of being the racist part of the country. And buying into that stereotype is no different than any other... discriminatory, defamatory, and generally inaccurate.

Sack </div></div>

Again, I must remind you, there are many ways of discriminating against minorities. It can't all be measured just in hate crimes, particularly, since the illegal alien invasion, with Mexican drug gangs, killing one another off in all of our cities, are part of these statistics.


All that I can say is that I am against hate, where ever it exists, and also completely against not using the strictest law enforcement remedies in every state, for all crimes of violence, against gays, blacks, whites, women and children.


Do you not agree that the radical RW is most responsible for the expanding threats of political violence?

G.


G.

ugotda7
10-26-2010, 06:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I think racism exists all over our country, sadly.
</div></div>

THANK YOU! That's what I've been saying all along!

Yes we in the south have our problems, and the most publicized examples of racism in our past. Yes we still have instances of ignorance and racism. But it IS everywhere, and has always been everywhere in this country. We just happen to have the stereotype of being the racist part of the country. And buying into that stereotype is no different than any other... discriminatory, defamatory, and generally inaccurate.

Sack </div></div>

Again, I must remind you, there are many ways of discriminating against minorities. It can't all be measured just in hate crimes, particularly, since the illegal alien invasion, with Mexican drug gangs, killing one another off in all of our cities, are part of these statistics.


All that I can say is that I am against hate, where ever it exists, and also completely against not using the strictest law enforcement remedies in every state, for all crimes of violence, against gays, blacks, whites, women and children.


Do you not agree that the radical RW is most responsible for the expanding threats of political violence?

G.


G. </div></div>


Against hate.....then whatever you do, don't look in the mirror.

hondo
10-26-2010, 08:39 PM
"Or people who point out the" hypocracy" of the left"


Hmmm, lww, I remember when you told Gayle that at least you
knew how to spell "hypocrisy".

So, should I rag your buddy or would you like to do the honors?

Or does it matter now that it's your sidekick and not your "mortal enemy"?

ROTFLMFAO!

hondo
10-26-2010, 08:41 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IMO, there are plenty of old line Republicans who are worried about what a mess they will have on their hands, from whatever Tea Party Nutjobs they end up having to deal with.

It could end up being their worst nightmare.

</div></div>I don't disagree and I think it is a good thing. What I don't like is that the TP Movement is polarizing the two parties and it is removing the "centrist" politicians which I think are most important.

eg8r </div></div>

Good post. Excellent point.

hondo
10-26-2010, 08:43 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I think racism exists all over our country, sadly.
</div></div>

THANK YOU! That's what I've been saying all along!

Yes we in the south have our problems, and the most publicized examples of racism in our past. Yes we still have instances of ignorance and racism. But it IS everywhere, and has always been everywhere in this country. We just happen to have the stereotype of being the racist part of the country. And buying into that stereotype is no different than any other... discriminatory, defamatory, and generally inaccurate.

Sack </div></div>

Again, I must remind you, there are many ways of discriminating against minorities. It can't all be measured just in hate crimes, particularly, since the illegal alien invasion, with Mexican drug gangs, killing one another off in all of our cities, are part of these statistics.


All that I can say is that I am against hate, where ever it exists, and also completely against not using the strictest law enforcement remedies in every state, for all crimes of violence, against gays, blacks, whites, women and children.


Do you not agree that the radical RW is most responsible for the expanding threats of political violence?

G.


G. </div></div>


Against hate.....then whatever you do, don't look in the mirror.
</div></div>

HE'S BACK! Adding to the intellectual quality of the discussion. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif

ugotda7
10-26-2010, 09:22 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I think racism exists all over our country, sadly.
</div></div>

THANK YOU! That's what I've been saying all along!

Yes we in the south have our problems, and the most publicized examples of racism in our past. Yes we still have instances of ignorance and racism. But it IS everywhere, and has always been everywhere in this country. We just happen to have the stereotype of being the racist part of the country. And buying into that stereotype is no different than any other... discriminatory, defamatory, and generally inaccurate.

Sack </div></div>

Again, I must remind you, there are many ways of discriminating against minorities. It can't all be measured just in hate crimes, particularly, since the illegal alien invasion, with Mexican drug gangs, killing one another off in all of our cities, are part of these statistics.


All that I can say is that I am against hate, where ever it exists, and also completely against not using the strictest law enforcement remedies in every state, for all crimes of violence, against gays, blacks, whites, women and children.


Do you not agree that the radical RW is most responsible for the expanding threats of political violence?

G.


G. </div></div>


Against hate.....then whatever you do, don't look in the mirror.
</div></div>

HE'S BACK! Adding to the intellectual quality of the discussion. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif </div></div>

Yep....and if this thread is any indication then the IQ of this place just went up on average by at least 20 points.

I know you missed me....

sack316
10-27-2010, 09:41 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Again, I must remind you, there are many ways of discriminating against minorities. It can't all be measured just in hate crimes, particularly, since the illegal alien invasion, with Mexican drug gangs, killing one another off in all of our cities, are part of these statistics.</div></div>

"discriminating against minorities". Discrimination is discrimination period. It could be against minorities, or it could be against ol' whitey too. Neither is good, neither is any better/worse than the other.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All that I can say is that I am against hate, where ever it exists, and also completely against not using the strictest law enforcement remedies in every state, for all crimes of violence, against gays, blacks, whites, women and children.</div></div>

Now that I'm sure we can all agree on!


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you not agree that the radical RW is most responsible for the expanding threats of political violence?</div></div>

I more agree with an earlier comment you made about how you can't judge an entire group by the actions of a few nutjobs. There are radical elements to nearly any subgroup of humanity we divide ourselves into.

Sack

Deeman3
10-27-2010, 01:00 PM
This country is mostly free, thank God, of political violence in modern times. Most cases are on off cases of someone on the left or right using bigotry and hate to attack someone.

All should condemn it in all it's faces and guises. There is a big difference in civil disagreement and hate crimes. The recent attempts to classify both as the same will have the impact of making real claims of racism and hate crimes less important and diminish both the law enforcement process but even more the rejection of them by all.

We all need to look for and oppose with loud voices thsoe real haters and not try to score political points by putting up counts.

Violence needs the stay where it belongs in the home and on TV show like 24! JK /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r
10-27-2010, 01:09 PM
And 24 will be missed. If you like Jack Bauer you should read the books by Vince Flynn. The main character in his books is Mitch Rapp and that is the character that Jack Bauer was based on.

eg8r

pooltchr
10-27-2010, 03:35 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This country is mostly free, thank God, of political violence in modern times. Most cases are on off cases of someone on the left or right using bigotry and hate to attack someone.

All should condemn it in all it's faces and guises. There is a big difference in civil disagreement and hate crimes. The recent attempts to classify both as the same will have the impact of making real claims of racism and hate crimes less important and diminish both the law enforcement process but even more the rejection of them by all.

We all need to look for and oppose with loud voices thsoe real haters and not try to score political points by putting up counts.

Violence needs the stay where it belongs in the home and on TV show like 24! JK /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>

DeeMan,
With all the mud slinging going on by our country's leadership, each side deamonizing the other side, is it almost natural that the public will pick up on that destructive mentality.
Obama calls the right his enemy, and calls for his audience to fight his enemies. This does nothing but fan the flames that eventually lead to violence.
And it happens on both sides.

People hear nothing but how bad the other side is. So, if you listen to the message from both sides, you would naturally come to the conclusion that they all stink.

So people are getting fed up, and when they reach a certain point (We're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore" level, what do you think they are going to do?

If we end up with another revolution, which is a distinct possibility, I will place much of the blame on the way those in Washington have been handling themselves for many years.

Steve

Gayle in MD
10-28-2010, 08:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Again, I must remind you, there are many ways of discriminating against minorities. It can't all be measured just in hate crimes, particularly, since the illegal alien invasion, with Mexican drug gangs, killing one another off in all of our cities, are part of these statistics.</div></div>

"discriminating against minorities". Discrimination is discrimination period. It could be against minorities, or it could be against ol' whitey too. Neither is good, neither is any better/worse than the other.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All that I can say is that I am against hate, where ever it exists, and also completely against not using the strictest law enforcement remedies in every state, for all crimes of violence, against gays, blacks, whites, women and children.</div></div>

Now that I'm sure we can all agree on!


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you not agree that the radical RW is most responsible for the expanding threats of political violence?</div></div>

I more agree with an earlier comment you made about how you can't judge an entire group by the actions of a few nutjobs. There are radical elements to nearly any subgroup of humanity we divide ourselves into.

Sack




</div></div>

Well, that's an interesting pov, with some truth, but I don't hear the threats of using guns in response to an election loss, coming from the left, I hear it coming from the right.

I don't see the left pundits ginning up murder and violence, but I do hear it from the right.

I didn't see any left supporters stomping a woman in the head, it was the aid to a Tea Party goon, doing it.

I didn't hear anyone from the left calling for militias to take over with guns, if they lose, I heard Angle say it.

I didn't see any lefties spitting on African Americans, I saw the RW Radical Tea Party Bubba, do it.

I didn't hear anyone from the left calling Dr. Tiller, Tiller the killer, or was his name Diller, whatever, I heard it from only the Fox pundits, and particularly O'Reilly...

At some point, the right is going to take a big huge hit, from their radical pundits on Fox, and I am just fearful of how many innocent people may die, because of Fox's/and Republicans ginning them up, and if it does go down, because these Tea Party Nuts have been making threats of using guns, throughout this election period.


IMO, there is a dangerous rhetoric that gins up violence, from the emotionally challenged followers, and it all comes from the right, and has been throughout this election period, and as soon as Democratics gained control of gthe Congress, the RW pundits started pushing for violence.

That constant violent, gun threateninjg rhetoric, is what I was asking you about.... Do you deny it has been coming from the right?

G.

sack316
10-28-2010, 09:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Well, that's an interesting pov, with some truth, but I don't hear the threats of using guns in response to an election loss, coming from the left, I hear it coming from the right.</div></div>

Read some of Van Jones' work

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't see the left pundits ginning up murder and violence, but I do hear it from the right.</div></div>

Who, specifically, and please give examples. And, if so, is it any worse than things Nina Totenberg has said?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I didn't see any left supporters stomping a woman in the head, it was the aid to a Tea Party goon, doing it.</div></div>

And I hope that guy gets what he deserves! His actions are inexcusable. But, at least she left with all of her fingers!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I didn't see any lefties spitting on African Americans, I saw the RW Radical Tea Party Bubba, do it.</div></div>

I saw the video too... with the guy yelling in the congressman's face. I'm sure some saliva probably did go flying, but nowhere do you see him "spitting" intentionally for the sake of spitting on the congressman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmP4Gb2pEsY

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local...ishColumbiaHome (http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100323/coulter_canada_100323/20100323?hub=BritishColumbiaHome)

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-finger-bitten-rally,0,7135717.story

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_University_of_Alabama_in_Huntsville_shooting

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/18/austin-plane-crash-office_n_467264.html

http://www.newser.com/story/68673/ecoterrorists-topple-seattle-area-radio-towers.html

http://www.hummerguy.net/hummer-news/extreme-hummer-hate-ignites-fear-in-denver

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr_4ZWEFOjQ

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-05-gop-office-attack_x.htm

http://www.wsmv.com/politics/17770884/detail.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002059735_webbushoffice11.html

http://www.savethegop.com/?p=5005

http://www.academia.org/left-wing-violence-exposed/

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUS248104+14-May-2009+PRN20090514

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/2009/08/24/0824kibby.html

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/08/berkeley-tree-sitter-travesty-continues-officer-battered/

http://cofcc.org/2009/09/actual-political-violence/


All of the above are examples of left-wing violence or disturbance or threats potentially leading to violence. I take them for what they are, random acts by crazy folks that are not representative of "the left" as a whole. I would never generalize the group based on the actions of a few nuts. Nor should you.

I could literally go on and on, but let's try to have some perspective here. Violence is a product of the fringe, on either side, and it's sickening to try to use it for political advantage.


Sack

pooltchr
10-28-2010, 11:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

All of the above are examples of left-wing violence or disturbance or threats potentially leading to violence. I take them for what they are, random acts by crazy folks that are not representative of "the left" as a whole. I would never generalize the group based on the actions of a few nuts. Nor should you.

Sack
</div></div>

And that, my friend, is the difference between the two of you. She will wrap her arms around any individual act that she can use to discredit an entire group of people she doesn't agree with.

I guess age is not always an indicator of maturity....at least not in this case!

Steve

Gayle in MD
10-28-2010, 04:49 PM
I'm not running for office, Sack, so I have no interest in political advantage. I have just what you have, and nothing more, an opinion, based on what I have seen with my own two eyes.

Now, I see where yet another Democratic, has been attacked by some fat assed RW bubba cops, and assaulted, just because he was a Democratic, who wanted to ask Cantor some questions, but they got word he was a Democratic, and decided to try to keep him from being able to exercise his right to free speech. three against him, three big ass fat cop bubbas, and it was clearly assault, and false arrest. The man did absolutely nothing wrong.

Where is any Republican Leader, speaking out against this absurd growing violence???? Hell, they won't even debate their opponents! They're all using Bush's routine. Fill the hall with Repubbies, and arrest any leftied before they can get into the discussion.

They blame the victims, every time.

Pigs. Eric Cantor, is a pig, as well, for not immediately apologizing to that man!

No, I don't agree with you. This RW radical bunch of gun happy nutjobs, is a very dangerrous element, and it's going to get worse, IMO. Republicans have totally failed to do anything at all, to settle down this violent bunch of nutjobs.

G.

pooltchr
10-28-2010, 05:21 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

some fat assed RW bubba cops,

three big ass fat cop bubbas,

Pigs. Eric Cantor, is a pig,

RW radical bunch of gun happy nutjobs,

violent bunch of nutjobs.

G.

</div></div>

You really do enjoy calling other's names. Does it remind you of when you were in elementary school? Fond memories? Or were you on the receiving end of it back then???

Steve

ugotda7
10-28-2010, 07:46 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

some fat assed RW bubba cops,

three big ass fat cop bubbas,

Pigs. Eric Cantor, is a pig,

RW radical bunch of gun happy nutjobs,

violent bunch of nutjobs.

G.

</div></div>

Way to stay classy lady....

pooltchr
10-28-2010, 08:35 PM
She has plenty of class.





All low!


Steve

hondo
10-29-2010, 12:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She has plenty of class.





All low!


Steve </div></div>

Did that make you feel like a better man?

Deeman3
10-29-2010, 12:54 PM
Fortunately, none of us here have to qualify our "class" to anyone else.

I disagree entirely with her assessment of the right and ignoring the exact same thing on the left. This should not surprise anyone who has posted here for years.

However, I do not question her class and think that is not a fair way to engage her. While it does seem a lot of hateful speech comes out of a person who says she does not hate, I don't think calling her out on class is any fairer than someone calling out our manhood for something we have said.

Name calling is her style but she has never given me reason to question her class. JMHO I also name call, although not as often. I try not to, but it is not easy on this board. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

pooltchr
10-29-2010, 01:08 PM
]<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

some fat assed RW bubba cops,

three big ass fat cop bubbas,

Pigs. Eric Cantor, is a pig,

RW radical bunch of gun happy nutjobs,

violent bunch of nutjobs.

G.

</div></div>

Sorry, DeeMan, but I have to disagree. Comments such as the ones above, taken from one single post, along with her cutsey little nickname for Limbaugh, do not indicate much class at all.

Steve

hondo
10-29-2010, 01:45 PM
But of course you disagree. What else could you do?

pooltchr
10-29-2010, 02:34 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But of course you disagree. What else could you do? </div></div>

I could have said that she has more class than some others on the forum, but you would have been crying that I was picking on you!

Maybe Dee and I have a different idea of what is high class and what is low class.

The really cool thing is that he and I can disagree, and nobody gets nasty, starts calling anyone names, or goes on a personal attack.

Pay attention and learn! This could be a learning opportunity for you.

Steve

hondo
10-29-2010, 03:37 PM
"The really cool thing is that he and I can disagree, and nobody gets nasty, starts calling anyone names, or goes on a personal attack."


The really cool thing is that you agreed with yourself. He didn't agree with you.
But, it is nice not to resort to calling other people "no class."
I agree with you.

Gayle in MD
10-29-2010, 07:18 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"The really cool thing is that he and I can disagree, and nobody gets nasty, starts calling anyone names, or goes on a personal attack."


The really cool thing is that you agreed with yourself. He didn't agree with you.
But, it is nice not to resort to calling other people "no class."
I agree with you. </div></div>

Oh, I see, Steve is at it again, huh? He signs on and immediately stalks and personally insults me, daily, and then follows all of that up with accusations?


Pretty funny, IMO.

I can call any person who choses to be in the public eye, any name I wish, just as others here have done all along.

I don't, however, get on here and call other members, "The scum of the earth" which, for example, Steve has called me.

I also wouldn't think of creating anything which indicated I was dreaming of the gravesite, of someone else on this forum, who had cancer.


Further, I wouldn't dream of stalking someone on here, particularly, if they requested of me, to go my own way, and stated that they did not wish to correspond with me again, in the future.


Suffice it to say, what I write about the nutjobs I see on the news, and at the National Mall, has been perfectly described, by yours truly.

I don't attempt to stalk and personally bash others on this forum. I leave that to the AZers, and Steve and Eg., they do enough of that on their own. In fact, I have not written a single response to any of them in many months.

If I read something that I think smacks of homophobia, or racism, I speak against it, as I always will.

Interesting, I have heard plenty of commentators, just lately, using the Bubba word. Naturally, since the word fits what we are seeing every evening on the news, so very well.

And, Of Course, as anyone would know, who regularlay reads with any interest, the political and historic books of our times, the term, "Flyover States" has been used for decades to describe the ge- political regions of our country.

Sometimes I have hit someone's sore spot, apparently, but the spot is there before I write my opinions, and my opinions are about people in the news, pundits, politicians, all the same people whom the right trashes right here on this forum.

After what I saw at Walter Reed, and during the Bush/Republican Majority, the term, Repiglicans, seems quite appropriate, to me, but then, I was watching closely, their votes, as well.

Just as the term Bubba, fits so well, the video's of the three cops, and their behavior, and the Rand Paul aid, as he stomped on a 110 lb. lady's head and shoulders, is so aptly desribed, with the word BUBBA, but I suppose I could have said, Bully, or pig, as wello, and all three would have been entirely appropriate.

A pig is a pig. A Bubba is a Bubba. And, A Repiglican,.... well, we all know what that is, I'm sure.

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G.

LWW
10-30-2010, 03:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She has plenty of class.





All low!


Steve </div></div>

Did that make you feel like a better man? </div></div>

Did that make you feel like a better sock puppet?

LWW

hondo
10-30-2010, 06:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She has plenty of class.





All low!


Steve </div></div>

Did that make you feel like a better man? </div></div>

Did that make you feel like a better sock puppet?

LWW </div></div>

"
nobody gets nasty, starts calling anyone names, or goes on a personal attack.""

Steve

If that were only true, Steve. (sigh)

Gayle in MD
10-30-2010, 06:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fortunately, none of us here have to qualify our "class" to anyone else.

I disagree entirely with her assessment of the right and ignoring the exact same thing on the left. This should not surprise anyone who has posted here for years.

<span style="color: #FF0000">How can I ignore, what clearly isn't there?That's fine, Deeman, just show me where Democratics are out there showing up with guns strapped on their thighs, out in pulic, to make some sort of threatening insinuation, even when the POTUS, is present!

When did you see that sort of irrational behavior, while Bush was President????

Show me where any Democrati Candidate, made statements calling for a violent takeover of the Government, "A second Amendment Remedy" as Angle and other righties, in your party have done.

Show me where Democratics have failed to address any growiong threats of violence from Liberals, there have been njnoe that I can document, nor blatant attacks, men attacking women, at Cemocratic rallies? Democratics standing in the street, ganging up on, and screaming out and insulting a silent, sitting, American voter, as happened in Washington D.C., when a Liberal, sat quietly, on the ground, holding his sign, in support of the Health Care Bill, a man who was suffering from Parkinson's disease, and wasn't that man a Veteran?

That didn't stop the Tea Party group, from throwing money in his face, lecturing him on making his own way, no free lunch, they were screaming, go to the other side of town, they shouted, meaning: Go where the African American Poor folks live, "You're on the wrong side of town" they screamed....

Show me where Democratics have demonized whole groups of our society, the way the right has verbally attacked gay people, trashing them for being who they are.

If you're going to tell me that democratics have conducted themselves as irrationally, rudely, and threateningly, as the Tea Party, aka Republicans, have, over these last few years, all I can say is TURN OFF FOX!

The SPLC, our own Homeland Security Agency, and the FBI happen to agree with my POV, there is a growing element of threatening, and actual violent behavior, among the Republican side of the isle....they officially support my own observations, not yours.</span>

However, I do not question her class <span style="color: #FF0000">Nor do I question yours.... </span>

and think that is not a fair way to engage her. While it does seem a lot of hateful speech comes out of a person who says she does not hate,


<span style="color: #FF0000">Yes, you've accused me of being a big phoney, regarding my history here, of taking up for the true victims in our society, defending the underdog, our neglected troops, a woman's right to control her own body, and it's functions, any ethnic group;s rights to equal treatment, under the law, which is where I come from, always, but that surely doesn't mean that I attack you, personally,....I usually post something to justify my POV, particularly when posting back and forth with you.

No worse than your own posts, IMO, and no worse than incredibly irresponsible statements by Palin, Limpbrains, Beckistan, Rove, Tancraedo, Ron Paul, AGainst the Equal Rights of Others??? Palladino, Angle, the idiot in aka, handcuffing a reporter, for asking a question????

Irrational statements of pure slander and racism, made by Tancreado, Gingrich, Plalin, and many other Republicans. Not my imgaination!

O'Reilly, Christine O'Donnell, and a whole slew of Republicans who regularly trash Gay people, or threaten violence. NMo worse than any of the other "Leaders" in your own party, do on National Television, in front of the world, compared to my own irrelevant posts, on this obscure little forum.

I never hear you speak against their irresponsible statements.

Say what you like, you've actually called me "despicable" before, when I was writing about Bush's lies, which, BTW, all turned out to be true statements on my part.

Steve has called me "The scum of the earth" and WORSE! Can you actually imagine me, posting those kind of statements, about anyone on this forum???? Yes, I do point out a liar, when I know for a fact, that he is lying, and incriminating me in the process, as I will always do. However, I don't even read their posts, and for Steve, of all people, to attack my vviews, or my posts, is truly an act of gross hypocracy. I NEVER respond to him, and I have asked him a number of times, to go his own way....he refuses, prefering to maintain his favorite sport, trashing me, and stalking me, non stop, as does LWW and Eg. Is that what they think is classy?

I may use a few names, here and there, aimed at the whole of Republican policies, and Republican crooks, and the stupidity of the Tea Party Candidates, the corruption of the greedy wealthy corporate pigs on Wall Street, but nothing worse than you could find on National Cable Television, and not directed at members of this forum.

I get it from all sides on here daily. I don't back down, and I also don't respond.

BTW, did you happen to read, "Pigs At The Trough"????</span>
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while I don't think calling her out on class is any fairer than someone calling out our manhood for something we have said.



<span style="color: #FF0000">LOL, Now that isn't actually what goes on around here.

What actually goes on around here, is that I defend Gay rights, Women's rights, Ethnic rights, and when someone makes a habbit of making homophobic statements, over and over again, I notice it, and wonder, yes, as anyone would, why you have been more focused on making fun of, and attacking Homosexuality, than anyone else on this forum, I notice that, because I get irritated by your constant attacks on Barney Frank, for example, when your own Party, is chock full of closeted Gays, yet you constantly say, that I am the one who has a double standard????


You are the one who ignores the lack of authenticity, honesty and honor among your own Party's many, many closeted Gays, all of them in the Republican Party. Mehlman? Graham? I could go on you know, and on and on, about the closeted Gays in the Republican Party....LMAO!

OH, and BTW, How do you justify calling Hillary, an opportunist, while Palin clearly resigned from her office, to go for the bucks, and has her entire family on the make for cash, while she totes that poor child like a mascot, on her hip, tredging him across the country, for money! Do you know what psychologists say about children needing consistancy in their day to day lives, even when they are normal, ehalthy children?

Have you ever called HER an opportunist? Have any from the right?

But I have a double standard????

What a crock! </span>

Name calling is her style but she has never given me reason to question her class. JMHO I also name call, although not as often. I try not to, but it is not easy on this board. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>

<span style="color: #FF0000">Oh, it ins't easy for you? It's hard for you because you are the main target from the non stop stalkers on here? LOL...Believe me, Deeman, you'e called me names, a number of times, when I decided that I had read enough Liberloa bashing of Clinton, and startd to write my own opinions on here about Bush. I don't attack you, or your "Manhood" but don't write homophobic statements, over and overagain, and expect that I won't notice it, or comment on it, or try to give you the definition of HOMOPHOBIA.

Dont accuse Gay people of being pedophioles, when they are two entirely different things.

IIRC, you once launched a thread asking members of the forum, whom they most enjoyed harrassing, on the forum, and named me as your main target....

I don't have a main "member" target. My targets are the pundits, whom I feel ginn up the dangerous rhetoric. My main targets are the politicians I feel are responsibloe for destroying America, and the hate groups, who threaten our peace, and safety, here at home, and the politicians whom I have caught lying.

I don't think I have ever called anyone on this forum, despicable, or said they were the scum of the earth, or produced pictures of graves with some forum member's name on them. Or PT boats, in some imaginary war, with members names on them.

This election has produced the most, irrational, threatening, looney bunch of contenders, that I have even seen in my lifetime. They are all from the right, just as the violence, and the threats of future "Get even" violence, have all been from the right.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Deny it till hell freezes over, it is a
FACT! Most of these Tea Party Candidates are NUTS!

"I don't celebrate Halloween, because of what it means. It is a Satanic holliday, it is a Pagan Holliday, and while people are going around getting candy, other p-eople are falloing victime to human sacrifices, I mean, that's the reality of what's goin' on on Haloween!"

Christine O'Donnell!!!! LMAO! A witch who doesn't celebrate Halloween! BWA HA HA HA....

G.</span> </span>

LWW
10-30-2010, 02:53 PM
Tell me again about how being a boy buggering closet gay who loans his personal jet to the Barack Hussein Obama for President campaign and donates tens of thousands of dollars to democrooks and holds a victory celebration at their church to celebrate the coronation of dear leader makes them a republican once his secret boy buggering ways become public.

That one's a hoot.

Even Aitch had the sense to back away from you on that one.

LWW

Gayle in MD
10-31-2010, 08:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Texan Fausto Cardenas shoot up the state capitol a while an angry Joseph Andrew Stack flew

Just what office are they running for? </div></div>

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hondo
10-31-2010, 01:32 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deeman3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Texan Fausto Cardenas shoot up the state capitol a while an angry Joseph Andrew Stack flew

Just what office are they running for? </div></div>

Huh? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif </div></div>

I was puzzled by that post also.
I believe wrong verb tense and no direct object but not really sure. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

LWW
10-31-2010, 01:56 PM
I'm still waiting for an explanation of how paraphrasing the D of I amounts to threatening a violent overthrow of the US government if the R's lose?

Since that seems to be over the head of the one making the accusation, here's a much easier one:

Q - What major party nominee for POTUS in 2008 started their political career in the home of, and sat on the board of a corporation with, an admitted terrorist who advocated the violent overthrow of the US government?

Hints ...

1 - First name rhymes with "CROCK."

2 - Middle name rhymes with "INSANE."

3 - Last name rhymes with "DRAMA."

LWW