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Qtec
10-25-2010, 03:23 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fresh evidence that US soldiers handed over detainees to a notorious Iraqi torture squad has emerged in army logs published by WikiLeaks.

The 400,000 field reports published by the whistleblowing website at the weekend contain an official account of deliberate threats by a military interrogator to turn his captive over to the Iraqi "Wolf Brigade".

The interrogator told the prisoner in explicit terms that: "He would be subject to all the pain and agony that the Wolf battalion is known to exact upon its detainees."

The evidence emerged as the deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg, said the allegations of killings, torture and abuse in Iraq were "extremely serious" and "needed to be looked at".

Clegg, speaking on BBC1's Andrew Marr Show, did not rule out an inquiry into the actions of British forces in Iraq, but said it was up to the US administration to answer for the actions of its forces. His comments contrasted with a statement from the Ministry of Defence today, which warned that the posting of classified US military logs on the WikiLeaks website could endanger the lives of British forces.

Clegg said: "We can bemoan how these leaks occurred, but I think the nature of the allegations made are extraordinarily serious. They are distressing to read about and they are very serious. I am assuming the US administration will want to provide its own answer. It's not for us to tell them how to do that."

Asked if there should be an inquiry into the role of British troops, he said: "I think anything that suggests that basic rules of war, conflict and engagement have been broken or that torture has been in any way condoned are extremely serious and need to be looked at.

"People will want to hear what the answer is to what are very, very serious allegations of a nature which I think everybody will find quite shocking." </div></div>


Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld........all liars. They claimed Abu Graib was the result of some 'bad apples'but through these reports, its clear they adopted the same tactics as Saddam.

Q...... link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/24/iraq-war-logs-us-iraqi-torture)

LWW
10-25-2010, 04:18 AM
Do you believe the Wikileaks?

LWW

Qtec
10-25-2010, 04:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you believe the Wikileaks?

LWW </div></div>

You don't?

Q

LWW
10-25-2010, 04:27 AM
That was a dodge and not an answer.

An answer would be "YES" or "NO" my propellerless friend.

LWW

Qtec
10-25-2010, 05:01 AM
I posted the friggin thing, of course I believe it.

Q

LWW
10-25-2010, 05:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I posted the friggin thing, of course I believe it.

Q </div></div>

Cool, thanks.

Then, if you believe Wikileaks you believe that WMD was in fact found in Iraq ... just as I have told the far left all along.

Or, as I suspect, do you believe Wikileaks to be infallible truth when the party tells you it's infallible truth ... and then believe it to be Satanic lies when the party tells to believe that it's Satanic lies?

LWW

Stretch
10-25-2010, 07:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I posted the friggin thing, of course I believe it.

Q </div></div>

Cool, thanks.

Then, if you believe Wikileaks you believe that WMD was in fact found in Iraq ... just as I have told the far left all along.

Or, as I suspect, do you believe Wikileaks to be infallible truth when the party tells you it's infallible truth ... and then believe it to be Satanic lies when the party tells to believe that it's Satanic lies?

LWW </div></div>

You keep assuming the party tells everyone what to say and think. This of course is the weekest of all arguments. Thanks for admitting you have no intelligent reply's. But we all knew that. St.

Gayle in MD
10-25-2010, 07:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stretch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I posted the friggin thing, of course I believe it.

Q </div></div>

Cool, thanks.

Then, if you believe Wikileaks you believe that WMD was in fact found in Iraq ... just as I have told the far left all along.

Or, as I suspect, do you believe Wikileaks to be infallible truth when the party tells you it's infallible truth ... and then believe it to be Satanic lies when the party tells to believe that it's Satanic lies?

LWW </div></div>

You keep assuming the party tells everyone what to say and think. This of course is the weekest of all arguments. Thanks for admitting you have no intelligent reply's. But we all knew that. St. </div></div>

Same ol' BS! Forget he can't grasp a point, he also can't make a point.

Just more LWWRW dribble, while hypocritically accusing everyone else of blind partisanship, he proves his own with every post, denying reality, from his bottle fed, FOXNOISE, POV...

Of course, Bush intended to invade Iraq, all along. NO WMD's, of the kind Bush said were there, were ever found.

Typical of LWW"s usual cherry picking irrelevant, "Points" of discussion. All twisted to distract from the proven facts.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Bush lied in the State Of The Union Address, PERIOD,</span> and had to come out and admit his lies, was forced to remove the sentence, which he had used to lie to America, and the world. The whole Yellow Cake lie, has been proven over and over again. then it was followed up by outing Plame, and sidding her husband, who proved hey were all lying, and there was the little matter of the fake memo, from the Niger
Embassy, and the British memo, "The (Bush) administration is fitting intelligence to policy"

They all lied. Who was advantaged, the Oil Industry, and the Bush/Cheney corporations. All of them came from big oil, Cheney, Rice and Bush, the Bush family with decades olod ties to the bin Ladens.

Bush trying to sell out our ports to Arabs in the U.E.

Clear proof, of his on-going lies throughout his administration, used to scare Americans to smooth the way for his illegal invasion, of Iraq.

Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Rove and Libby, should all be hanging dead.
G.

pooltchr
10-25-2010, 08:46 AM
So, if I understand the position of the left, Wikileaks is accurate when reporting on the torture issue, but incorrect when reporting on the discovery of WMD.

Do I have that about right?

Steve

LWW
10-26-2010, 02:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stretch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I posted the friggin thing, of course I believe it.

Q </div></div>

Cool, thanks.

Then, if you believe Wikileaks you believe that WMD was in fact found in Iraq ... just as I have told the far left all along.

Or, as I suspect, do you believe Wikileaks to be infallible truth when the party tells you it's infallible truth ... and then believe it to be Satanic lies when the party tells to believe that it's Satanic lies?

LWW </div></div>

You keep assuming the party tells everyone what to say and think. This of course is the weekest of all arguments. Thanks for admitting you have no intelligent reply's. But we all knew that. St. </div></div>

I assume nothing and desperately want to believe otherwise. You, Aitch, Snoopy, and Gee continue to convince me that the spoon rules the far left however.

Please ... prove me wrong.

LWW

LWW
10-26-2010, 02:18 AM
Thanks for the confirmation dear heart.

LWW

LWW
10-26-2010, 02:20 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, if I understand the position of the left, Wikileaks is accurate when reporting on the torture issue, but incorrect when reporting on the discovery of WMD.

Do I have that about right?

Steve </div></div>

That's it exactly, and it's exactly what I predicted.

As I told Stretch and Fetchit ... as hard as I try to believe that the far left cabal here is capable of independent thought, they present a contrary and quite compelling argument on a daily basis.

LWW