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Qtec
11-18-2010, 07:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">New Report Reveals Health Insurance Industry Pumped $86 Million Into The U.S. Chamber To Kill Reform

This morning, Bloomberg reporter Drew Armstrong broke an incredible story revealing that health insurance companies, like UnitedHealth and CIGNA, funneled $86.2 million into the U.S. Chamber of Commerce in 2009 to pay for the Chamber’s multifaceted campaign to kill President Obama’s health reform legislation. In January of this year, the National Journal’s Peter Stone reported that insurers had pumped $20 million into the Chamber for its anti-health reform campaign. Armstrong’s report exposes the true extent to which insurers worked to fool the public and defeat health reform. However, the report also poses new questions about the role of insurance companies in the health reform debate.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'><u>Why did insurance companies try to hide their donations to the Chamber’s anti-health reform campaign?</u></span> Given their own unpopularity and Obama’s pledge to be the first leader to successfully reform America’s broken health system, <u><span style="color: #3366FF">the health insurance industry hatched a plan to fundamentally deceive the public, the press, and politicians.</span> Instead of fighting reform tooth and nail, the insurance industry worked to manipulate the process and ultimately kill reforms </u>by adopting what ThinkProgress termed “The Duplicitous Campaign.”

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>In public, health insurance lobbyists and executives promised to support reform and work closely with reform advocates. The top health insurance lobbyist, <u>Karen Ignagni, went to the White House early in the reform debate and promised Obama, “You have our commitment to play, to contribute and to help pass health-care reform this year.”</u></span>

<span style="color: #990000">In private, the health insurance industry worked with conservative think tanks and media, right-wing front groups, and highly ideological trade associations like the National Association of Manufacturers and the Chamber to kill the bill. By using third party groups and ideological cover, the health insurance industry sought to trick Americans into hating reform. In September of 2009, while many in the media still believed insurance executives were honestly supporting reform, </span>ThinkProgress released a report detailing the ways in which the health insurance industry secretly worked to undermine the process and poison public opinion (read it here). We also produced a video with health insurance whistle-blower Wendell Potter, who explained how insurers control the debate to defeat reform: </div></div>
link (http://thinkprogress.org/2010/11/17/chamber-insurance-86-mil/)

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Gayle in MD
11-19-2010, 08:28 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">New Report Reveals Health Insurance Industry Pumped $86 Million Into The U.S. Chamber To Kill Reform

This morning, Bloomberg reporter Drew Armstrong broke an incredible story revealing that health insurance companies, like UnitedHealth and CIGNA, funneled $86.2 million into the U.S. Chamber of Commerce in 2009 to pay for the Chamber’s multifaceted campaign to kill President Obama’s health reform legislation. In January of this year, the National Journal’s Peter Stone reported that insurers had pumped $20 million into the Chamber for its anti-health reform campaign. Armstrong’s report exposes the true extent to which insurers worked to fool the public and defeat health reform. However, the report also poses new questions about the role of insurance companies in the health reform debate.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'><u>Why did insurance companies try to hide their donations to the Chamber’s anti-health reform campaign?</u></span> Given their own unpopularity and Obama’s pledge to be the first leader to successfully reform America’s broken health system, <u><span style="color: #3366FF">the health insurance industry hatched a plan to fundamentally deceive the public, the press, and politicians.</span> Instead of fighting reform tooth and nail, the insurance industry worked to manipulate the process and ultimately kill reforms </u>by adopting what ThinkProgress termed “The Duplicitous Campaign.”

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>In public, health insurance lobbyists and executives promised to support reform and work closely with reform advocates. The top health insurance lobbyist, <u>Karen Ignagni, went to the White House early in the reform debate and promised Obama, “You have our commitment to play, to contribute and to help pass health-care reform this year.”</u></span>

<span style="color: #990000">In private, the health insurance industry worked with conservative think tanks and media, right-wing front groups, and highly ideological trade associations like the National Association of Manufacturers and the Chamber to kill the bill. By using third party groups and ideological cover, the health insurance industry sought to trick Americans into hating reform. In September of 2009, while many in the media still believed insurance executives were honestly supporting reform, </span>ThinkProgress released a report detailing the ways in which the health insurance industry secretly worked to undermine the process and poison public opinion (read it here). We also produced a video with health insurance whistle-blower Wendell Potter, who explained how insurers control the debate to defeat reform: </div></div>
link (http://thinkprogress.org/2010/11/17/chamber-insurance-86-mil/)

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And they get on here bashing the left for the results they don't like....

The HC Reform, was distorted by Republicans from the gitgo.

The HC Industry, spent billions, on buying up seats for Republicans.

G.

Chopstick
11-19-2010, 09:13 AM
<span style="color: #000099">The health insurance lobbyists wrote the heath care bill and Obama was in bed with them the whole way.
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Obama's Deal (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/obamasdeal/view/)

eg8r
11-19-2010, 09:59 AM
LOL, this sounds a bit like keeping your enemies close so you know what they are doing.

eg8r

Qtec
11-20-2010, 02:38 AM
read (http://billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=326302#Post326302)

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Qtec
11-20-2010, 04:15 AM
Total BS my friend.
Watch part 2. See how Ignangni swore to help pass reform but secretly, she and her other HC cronies pumped millions of $ into campaigns to oppose HC reform!

It also shows that it was the HC industry who wanted everyone to have compulsory HC, not Obama as the RW keep shouting!

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Gayle in MD
11-20-2010, 11:38 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Total BS my friend.
Watch part 2. See how Ignangni swore to help pass reform but secretly, she and her other HC cronies pumped millions of $ into campaigns to oppose HC reform!

It also shows that it was the HC industry who wanted everyone to have compulsory HC, not Obama as the RW keep shouting!

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You wouldn't think it necessary anymore, to have to prove these tings, would you?

After this:

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How the Bush Administration Stopped the States From Stepping In to Help Consumers

By Eliot Spitzer
Thursday, February 14, 2008; A25

Several years ago, state attorneys general and others involved in consumer protection began to notice a marked increase in a range of predatory lending practices by mortgage lenders. Some were misrepresenting the terms of loans, making loans without regard to consumers' ability to repay, making loans with deceptive "teaser" rates that later ballooned astronomically, packing loans with undisclosed charges and fees, or even paying illegal kickbacks. These and other practices, we noticed, were having a devastating effect on home buyers. In addition, the widespread nature of these practices, if left unchecked, threatened our financial markets.

Even though predatory lending was becoming a national problem, the Bush administration looked the other way and did nothing to protect American homeowners. In fact, the government chose instead to align itself with the banks that were victimizing consumers.

Predatory lending was widely understood to present a looming national crisis. This threat was so clear that as New York attorney general, I joined with colleagues in the other 49 states in attempting to fill the void left by the federal government. Individually, and together, state attorneys general of both parties brought litigation or entered into settlements with many subprime lenders that were engaged in predatory lending practices. Several state legislatures, including New York's, enacted laws aimed at curbing such practices.

What did the Bush administration do in response? Did it reverse course and decide to take action to halt this burgeoning scourge? As Americans are now painfully aware, with hundreds of thousands of homeowners facing foreclosure and our markets reeling, the answer is a resounding no.

Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye.

Let me explain: The administration accomplished this feat through an obscure federal agency called the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC). The OCC has been in existence since the Civil War. Its mission is to ensure the fiscal soundness of national banks. For 140 years, the OCC examined the books of national banks to make sure they were balanced, an important but uncontroversial function. But a few years ago, for the first time in its history, the OCC was used as a tool against consumers.

In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative. The OCC also promulgated new rules that prevented states from enforcing any of their own consumer protection laws against national banks. The federal government's actions were so egregious and so unprecedented that all 50 state attorneys general, and all 50 state banking superintendents, actively fought the new rules.

But the unanimous opposition of the 50 states did not deter, or even slow, the Bush administration in its goal of protecting the banks. In fact, when my office opened an investigation of possible discrimination in mortgage lending by a number of banks, the OCC filed a federal lawsuit to stop the investigation.

Throughout our battles with the OCC and the banks, the mantra of the banks and their defenders was that efforts to curb predatory lending would deny access to credit to the very consumers the states were trying to protect. But the curbs we sought on predatory and unfair lending would have in no way jeopardized access to the legitimate credit market for appropriately priced loans. Instead, they would have stopped the scourge of predatory lending practices that have resulted in countless thousands of consumers losing their homes and put our economy in a precarious position.

When history tells the story of the subprime lending crisis and recounts its devastating effects on the lives of so many innocent homeowners, the Bush administration will not be judged favorably. The tale is still unfolding, but when the dust settles, it will be judged as a willing accomplice to the lenders who went to any lengths in their quest for profits. So willing, in fact, that it used the power of the federal government in an unprecedented assault on state legislatures, as well as on state attorneys general and anyone else on the side of consumers.

The writer is governor of New York.

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The he writes a book, and lies his ass off.
Blames everybody but himself.

LMAO!
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Sev
11-20-2010, 07:20 PM
110 major corporations are now exempt from Obamacare.