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Gayle in MD
11-20-2010, 11:24 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/19/rick-scott-playboy-que-pasa_n_785902.html





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Rick Scott's Playboy Connection Gets Him In Trouble With Conservative Group
The Huffington Post | Nick Wing First Posted: 11-19-10 11:

Florida's Christian Family Coalition, a Miami-based social conservative group, raised concern Thursday that newly elected Governor Rick Scott has financial ties to adult entertainment giant Playboy.

According to a recent report by Orlando's WESH, Scott has somewhere around two million shares of Latino social networking site QuePasa, nearly 15 percent of the company -- and worth approximately $6-8 million. QuePasa has a partnership with Playboy Mexico.

"We cannot have a governor in the state of Florida that invests in companies that sell pornography," Rev. Mark D. Boykin, a spokesman for the group, said recently. "We are asking that before he takes the oath of office, Gov.-elect Scott gets rid of his stocks from QuePasa Corporation. The governor of the state of Florida should not be benefiting or have an interest in pornography. It goes against our family values."

Scott complied with the request -- sort of.

"Mr. Scott will move his money into a blind trust and will remove himself from the decision-making when it comes to his investments," Scott spokesman Brian Burgess told WESH, though he admitted that he couldn't guarantee that the new fund wouldn't continue to invest in QuePasa or Playboy, for that matter.

Politifact reports on the QuePasa-Playboy connection:

Quepasa and Playboy began partnering in 2009 to find and identify "Cyber Chicas" for the magazine's Mexico edition. Quepasa created an online community that features models wanting to be included in Playboy. Users of the website can go to the Playboy community to vote for and rank the women. Three finalists are forwarded each month to Playboy, which selects a winner. A 24-year-old Brazilian, Fernanda Schonardie, was selected as the first "Cyber Chica" and was featured in a full-page layout in the March 2009 edition of Playboy México.</span>

<span style="color: #CC0000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Another Family Values Republican, what's with these Christian Family Values Republicans, and sexual preversion, lol.

OMG What would Jesus Say!</span> </span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

LWW
11-20-2010, 12:53 PM
That is incredibly lame.

LWW

pooltchr
11-20-2010, 02:25 PM
When did you deem that Playboy is porn?
I think the courts see it a little differently.
Steve

sack316
11-20-2010, 02:41 PM
Pretty big stretch by Christian Family Coalition to make that connection, considering his investment happened 3 years before the social networking site had any relation with Playboy.

Sack

LWW
11-20-2010, 03:40 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pretty big stretch by Christian Family Coalition to make that connection, considering his investment happened 3 years before the social networking site had any relation with Playboy.

Sack </div></div>

But not even a mild reach for someone who sees a substantial difference from turning down the POTUS's invite for dinner and turning down the POTUS's invite for dinner ... or someone who sees that loaning one's own private jet to the Obama for POTUS campaign as proof of being a die hard republican once they are found to be a boy buggering thief.

LWW

eg8r
11-20-2010, 04:15 PM
Rick Scott was definitely not selected on my ballot. I could not vote for someone who says they are against abortion yet gets rich off his hospital performing abortions.

eg8r

Sev
11-20-2010, 07:22 PM
We all know more liberals are porn stars than republicans.

eg8r
11-20-2010, 10:47 PM
Mary Carey? Anyone?

eg8r

wolfdancer
11-20-2010, 11:07 PM
That's because Democrats are, well....as Grady Matthews tells in his book "Bet High and Kiss Low"....he tells of preparing for a" close encounter of the seventh kind" by removing his clothes, and the lovely young lady, exclaimed
" I see you are gifted"

sack316
11-21-2010, 05:43 AM
We're all sickos... left and right. Some hide it better than others... but one night out with me and my friends will reveal all /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif (pun intended)

Sack

Gayle in MD
11-21-2010, 09:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pretty big stretch by Christian Family Coalition to make that connection, considering his investment happened 3 years before the social investm,entssite had any relation with Playboy.

Sack </div></div>

Think so? Perhaps they were more focused on the conditions prevailling, when they made their point....

G.

"You can never predict the behavior of wild animals, and all it takes is a split-second for an animal to attack and seriously maim or kill a person. "

Deeman3
11-21-2010, 09:41 AM
If I remember Grady's line it was that he could not really teach a woman pool unless they had slept together!

I once asked him for a photo line-up of all the gals who had fallen for that line. he declined citing their privacy rights. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Yep, a lot Democrat in Grady, gifted or not. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

wolfdancer
11-21-2010, 02:39 PM
Are you implying that "we can't deliver"
I probably posted this a couple of years back, but the "old timers" at the Palace Billiards, in SF.....told me that Grady used to work in nearby San Mateo, get paid on Friday....and as the story goes....they would be waiting to "rob" him.
Somewhere along the line he got to be a pretty good player, but seeing him play in the Sands twice a year events, it always seemed to me like he could snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
He would be on a roll, ...and then miss a "gimme". I was at the Reno Sands to watch the pro tournament, and ended up at the adjacent urinal to Mr. Matthews. Propriety prevented me from glancing over to see if his legendary phallic member...lived up to it's (his) er, billing. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> she looked and said.... I see you are gifted </div></div>
The thing I remember most about Grady though is...he was a big fan of the NY Times, Sunday crossword (as was I).....You run across (no pun intended) many "big" words....that are also seldom used in everyday conversation. Grady seemed to like using them in his writings, but often out of context.
I had his tapes, and the first one was the best, but shot with a home video camera, and "poorly" edited. I probably bought that in the late 80's
and still can't duplicate many of his shots....he did have a great stroke...
His latter tapes were shot professionally, but I always felt like they were just the same content, packaged differently. (SSDD)

Gayle in MD
11-21-2010, 02:46 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">His latter tapes were shot professionally, but I always felt like they were just the same content, packaged differently. (SSDD) </div></div>


You mean like Set, Pause Finish, presented as a ground breaking NEW teaching system, LOL...and using Hal Houle's aiming system, renamed and repackaged, for profit. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

G.
"You can never predict the behavior of wild animals, and all it takes is a split-second for an animal to attack and seriously maim or kill a person."

wolfdancer
11-21-2010, 03:24 PM
"Set, pause....) is a good mnemonic to get a player to finish his stroke. I beat an old timer once in a tournament, and he then complained about losing to someone that had no stroke. After a couple of years playing I reflected back on that "sour grapes" comment,,,and knew he was right, I had been playing for many years without a stroke, but since I was winning my share of bar pool events, I never improved on that ....some 20 years later now, I'm still trying to work on my stroke.
I think Randy put a lot of thought, time, and effort, into developing his system, and it has helped a lot of players
I like the bca program for certifying instructors, as there was a lot of people teaching pool haphazardly and you didn't always get what you paid for.
The first "aiming" system that I was taught...the older tables had three light fixtures to illuminate the tables....and the theory was...you aimed at the intersection of the two shadows created by those lights, in front of the ball. It even seemed to work....but there was no "feedback", on any ball to ball contact points...and I'm not sure what happened to those players games, when the florescent fixtures, replaced the incandescent bulbs?....maybe they took up bowling...
SPFF is a good way to fly, but not the only way....and as the saying goes
"different strokes for different folks".... like, take my golf swing, for example....most players have to look the other way when I swing....

wolfdancer
11-21-2010, 03:42 PM
How did the "family values" topic, get detoured to commenting on pool?
It's almost as bad as the switch from GW as a topic of derision, to a discussion on the many merits of Nancy Pelosi, our next President.

sack316
11-21-2010, 03:42 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The first "aiming" system that I was taught...the older tables had three light fixtures to illuminate the tables....and the theory was...you aimed at the intersection of the two shadows created by those lights, in front of the ball. It even seemed to work....but there was no "feedback", on any ball to ball contact points...and I'm not sure what happened to those players games, when the florescent fixtures, replaced the incandescent bulbs?....maybe they took up bowling...
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I've got an older gentlemen I shoot with that uses a similar system for funsies and also to teach newer players a general idea on where to aim. I can't recall exactly how it works, but IIRC the new lights reflect off the ball in triplicate, and you aim at one of those.

I think he stole it from my "hit the ball in the middle" system from my drunken days /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

Sack

Gayle in MD
11-21-2010, 03:47 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Set, pause....) is a good mnemonic to get a player to finish his stroke. I beat an old timer once in a tournament, and he then complained about losing to someone that had no stroke. After a couple of years playing I reflected back on that "sour grapes" comment,,,and knew he was right, I had been playing for many years without a stroke, but since I was winning my share of bar pool events, I never improved on that ....some 20 years later now, I'm still trying to work on my stroke.
I think Randy put a lot of thought, time, and effort, into developing his system, and it has helped a lot of players...but is it the only way to fly?
I like the bca program for certifying instructors, as there was a lot of people teaching pool haphazardly and you didn't always get what you paid for.
The first "aiming" system that I was taught...the older tables had three light fixtures to illuminate the tables....and the theory was...you aimed at the intersection of the two shadows created by those lights, in front of the ball. It even seemed to work....but there was no "feedback", on any ball to ball contact points...and I'm not sure what happened to those players games, when the florescent fixtures, replaced the incandescent bulbs?....maybe they took up bowling...
SPFF is a goo way to fly, but not the only way....and as the saying goes
"different strokes for different folks".... like, take my golf swing, for example....most players have to look the other way when I swing.... </div></div>

LOL...

If one watches as much pool as I do, They would have to agree with you....you are right, there is no single way to shoot. One only needs to observe the many various styles of aiming, stroking and stance, among the pro shooters, to know that much.

SPFF, has been around for ages, as in nothing new.

IMO, pool shooting is a matter of putting in the time and practice, just like anything else.

If you know the basic information of stance, stroke, aiming, and a preshot routine, from there, IMO, it's just a matter of long hours, practicing on the table, perfecting those fundamentals, and then regularly using them in competition.

Pro shooters practice hours upon hours every day, yet still, a brief loss of focus, and they can jaw a ball in the pocket as carelessly as your average ball banger, lol...

There is no magic bullet, IMO, just learning the basics, which one can easily find, all over the net, and then practicing....

I think anyone who has serious goals, of playing in the pro world, should have a coach.

I also think Pro players, give the best lessons.
Karen is a great teacher. I've always heard rave reviews about Tonly Robles, Gerda and Allison, too.


G.

"You can never predict the behavior of wild animals, and all it takes is a split-second for an animal to attack and seriously maim or kill a person."

wolfdancer
11-21-2010, 03:53 PM
Sack, many of those "urban legends" aiming systems worked......but begin to fail as the distance to the pocket increased.
Hal Houle's original 1/2 ball aim system was/is the best of the lot....once you allow for distance, and make minor adjustments from the 1/2 & 1/4 major aiming points. I'd have to give up the game now, with my relatively poor eyesight, if it weren't for that system.

pooltchr
11-21-2010, 04:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I also think Pro players, give the best lessons.
Karen is a great teacher.
</div></div>

Yes, she is. As a matter of fact, she went to the same BCA school that Allison went to.

Steve