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Gayle in MD
12-01-2010, 05:31 PM
Mcconnell is A backstabbing POS. Repiglicans have no moral fiber whatsoever.

They are holding the entire country hostage, to insure tax cuts for millionaires, and billionaires, while holding up an important anti nuclear proliferation treaty, holding up unemployment payments for those hard working Middle Class families, who have paid into unemployment insurance, and have been scoured, acrewed and barbqued, by the wealthy.

Repiglicans are holding up DADT, when every Military General, including Powell, and Gates, are all saying now is the time to repeal DADT, and give the respect to our Gay soldiers that they deserve.

Repiglicans are holding up tax cuts for the suffering Middle Class, whose jobs were outsourced by the very corporations that Bush and the Republicans subsidized, while they were outsourcing American jobs.

They have crippled this country for three years, after screwing it up royally, in order to provide more money for the filthy rich, who have been bilking the American public for decades...

Forty thousand factories closed during the Bush years. Over a trillion dollar increase in the deficit. Bush tax cuts destroyed the country, and the Republicans, are still protecting the corporate fascist pigs.

Bush ran up deficits, off the record, pushing through war spending under Emergency funding.

Right wing insanity.

Unbelievable! Hedge fund managers paying fifteen percent, while their secreatries are paying thirty to thrity five percent!

Pure insanity. I dont recall any wealthy people being in dire straights under Bill Clinton's tax rates. The country was doing well. The people were doing well. Then came Bush, aqnd his Repiglican blank check spendoholic Congress...and the country has never recovered since.

Absolutely repulsive!

G.

cushioncrawler
12-01-2010, 06:07 PM
I really really hate McConnell.
mac.
Who iz McConnell????

pooltchr
12-01-2010, 06:07 PM
Do yourself a favor and open your eyes. The Congress is still under control of the Dems. If they want to repeal DADT, they can. If they want to extend unemployment benefits, they can. And maybe, if they had done their jobs and passed a budget like they were supposed to do, they would have time to deal with the tax question in the next few weeks.

The dems have been in charge of congress for 4 years, and have had the full support of the white house for the last two.

They held a large enough majority to do whatever they wanted to do. The fact that they blew the opportunities they had in order to pass Obamacare is not anyone's fault but their own.

Democrats are ignorant bullies, and now they are a bunch of crybabies because the public told them in no uncertain terms that they didn't like what they had been doing.

Get over it.

Steve

ugotda7
12-01-2010, 08:22 PM
Disregard...

sack316
12-01-2010, 09:20 PM
yeah I didn't realize they got sworn in over a month early. Glad I got the heads up now!

Sack

Qtec
12-02-2010, 12:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Today, Congress sets a new record; in the last 40 years, it has never allowed extended unemployment benefits to expire when the unemployment rate was above 7.2 percent. But today, in an economy that faces a 9.6 percent unemployment rate, Congress will let the benefits expire and force 2.5 million Americans to lose their benefits in the midst of the holiday season.</span>
As the New York Times notes, such a <span style='font-size: 14pt'><span style="color: #990000">"lack of regard for working Americans is shocking,"</span> especially when juxtaposed with decades of bipartisan support for similar measures.</span> <u><span style="color: #990000">But, in their pitch to obstruct any legislative progress,</span></u> the Republicans of the 111th Congress have waged a two-year, all-out war against extending benefits, regardless of who it may hurt. The GOP's chief defense of its position is the $12.5 billion cost of a three-month extension, or $60 billion for a full year. <span style="color: #CC0000">Such feigned concern for the deficit is made all the more deceptive when considering the same Republicans are simultaneously demanding that Congress extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.</span> And, while these tax cuts for the rich provide very little economic stimulus, the unemployment benefits they obstruct have provided a vital economic boost to struggling families and businesses. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>By prioritizing the pocketbooks of the privileged over the needs of the American worker, Republicans are turning their back on their two alleged priorities: the American people and the economy</span>.
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Brown stopped the bill.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trying to beat the clock, Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT) introduced a proposal Monday to extend benefits through 2011 at a cost of $56 billion without offsets. But when Democrats tried to pass the proposal yesterday, Brown blocked the effort, complaining that he’d “just found out” about it:

Hours before beefed-up benefits were set to expire at midnight, Democrats sought to extend them for another year. But they were blocked by Republican Senator Scott Brown, who said Democrats should have taken time to work out a compromise.

“It’s not the way to do business in the United States Senate, and if it is it needs to change,” Brown said. “We just found out today, or late yesterday, that we were even going to talk about this.”

After his objection, Brown offered his own proposal for a year-long extension as long as the Office of Management and Budget finds funds from already approved appropriations to pay for it. But Democrats turned down the plan because, as Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) noted, “we have to deal with the immediate crisis” and “the families that are struggling today.” <span style='font-size: 17pt'><u>This, of course, was the governing philosophy of both parties when they passed unemployment extension seven times under the Bush Administration.</u> <span style="color: #990000">In fact, before yesterday, Congress went 40 years without allowing extended unemployment benefits to expire when the unemployment rate was above 7.2 percent. The unemployment rate today stands at 9.6 percent.</span></span> </div></div>

Don't blame the Dems.

Q

Qtec
12-02-2010, 12:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But when benefits began to expire again in February 2010, Sen. Jim Bunning (R-KY) -- who gladly supported an extension for "our most needy families in Kentucky" in 2003 -- decided to single-handedly block an extension, twice. While other GOP senators threatened to hold the extension, Bunning "made [GOP] colleagues squirm" by stopping the Senate from moving forward 11 times in a five-day standoff, telling senators pleading for him to relent "tough sh*t." But instead of reigning Bunning in, Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) noted that the GOP "caught up with the people Bunning was already with" -- joining him on what many once deemed "insensitive" tactics to "[throw] a beanball at the unemployed" four times in the next eight months. Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) described the GOP obstruction in June as "one of the worst moments I've seen in 25 years in the United States Senate." Not to be left out, the House GOP quashed the fifth attempt to pass unemployment benefits earlier this month, ensuring thousands of families lost their benefits just after Thanksgiving weekend. <span style='font-size: 17pt'>Emblematic of GOP's hypocrisy, future House Speaker <span style="color: #990000">John Boehner's (R-OH) spokesman accused Democrats of "just playing politics with people's unemployed benefits" <u>right after his boss voted against the extension.</u></span></span> </div></div>

Q link (http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2010/11/pr20101130)

Qtec
12-02-2010, 01:08 AM
Facts.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2010, which allowed some 2.5 million jobless Americans to continue receiving benefits amid the worst economic downturn since The Great Depression, was signed by President Barack Obama on July 22, 2010.

But congressional approval of the extension came after a lengthy partisan fight.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Republicans overwhelmingly opposed the legislation</span>, saying they believed adding $34 billion to the federal deficit and $13.3 trillion national debt was irresponsible.

In the Senate, <u>only two GOP lawmakers</u> sided with a unified Democratic majority in passing the bill. The remaining 39 Republicans, or <span style='font-size: 20pt'>95 percent of the party's Senate membership, voted against it.</span>

In the House, <u>Republicans accounted for only 31 of the 272 votes in favor </u>of the legislation. The remaining 142, <span style='font-size: 20pt'>or 82 percent, voted against</span> extending unemployment compensation beyond the traditional 26 weeks. </div></div>


.......and when Bush was POTUS?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"># Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2008 (HR 6867): This bill, which extended benefits, passed the House on Oct. 3, 2008, by a vote of 368 to 28. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>Of the 170 voting Republicans, 142 or <u>84 percent supported the extension.</u></span> The measure passed the Senate by a voice vote, a parliamentary often used when legislation is not controversial.

# Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2008 (HR 2642): This bill provided federal money to states to make emergency unemployment compensation payments to workers who had exhausted all rights to regular compensation. On final passage, <span style='font-size: 26pt'>it sailed through the House by a vote of 416 to 12, with 186 or <span style="color: #990000"><u>95 percent of voting Republicans supporting it.</u></span></span> It passed the Senate <span style='font-size: 26pt'>92 to 6. Among Republicans, 42 of 48 supported the measure</span> </div></div>

Mmmmmmmmm.

Q

Gayle in MD
12-02-2010, 01:42 AM
There is no way it can be denied, after this fiasco.

As I have said for years, Republicans ONLY care about the wealthy.

They are pigs.

G.

LWW
12-02-2010, 03:11 AM
Why have the democrooks allowed these benefits to expire?

Why haven't they used "PAYGO" like they promised?

Why did they introduce the bill in a manner that required more than a majority ... which it received ... to pass?

Why can't the left see this?

LWW

pooltchr
12-02-2010, 08:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Why can't the left see this?

LWW </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>They don't want to see it!</span>

Steve

Gayle in MD
12-02-2010, 08:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really really hate McConnell.
mac.
Who iz McConnell???? </div></div>

He's a beady eyed lying POS, who looks like a dead owl, with Downs Syndrome.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Repiglicans are holding up tax cuts for the suffering Middle Class, whose jobs were outsourced by the very corporations that Bush and the Republicans subsidized, while they were outsourcing American jobs.

</div></div>

This is, in a nutshell, what Republicans did to this country, Mac...including cutting taxes, in the midst of two wars, and adding a trilliion dollar plus Bush Phamaceutical entitlement program, no bid contracts for war profiteering pigs, cronies in bed with Cheney and Bush, Rice and Rumsfeld, who all have a history of doing business with the families of bin Laden, and the Saudi Prince, who finances terrorists.


That's just part of the story....Mitch Mcconnell, leaves a meeting with President Obama, promising to work toward bi-partisanship to get things done for the American People along with Cantor, (another closeted Republican Gay Man, Washington is full of them) and Boehner, (the neighborhood alcoholic, who drinks and cries like a bi-polar nutjob, on the Senate Floor, on a regular basis)then the next day, every Republican signs a letter to the President, telling him in no uncertain words, that if they don't get tax cuts for the wealthy millionaires and billionaires, they will cripple the government, until they do, no work, no legislation, no progress, just exactly their same actions which blocked progress for the last three years...

then McConnell gets up there and lies more...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Republicans have pleaded with Democrats to put aside their wish list, to focus on the things Americans want us to focus on, they've ignored us. We need to show the American people that we care more about them, and their ability to pay their bills, than we do about the special interest groups legislative Christmas List. </div></div>

Republicanspeak, IOW, another colossal lie, from another repiglican liar, who reverses the reality of what Republicans are doing, and blames it on the very people, the Democrats, who ARE fighting for American Middle Class people to continue to get their unemployment money, ....but those checks, right at Christmas time, are being held hostage to Republicans demands, for another big payoff span of an uneven, unfair, incredibly expensive tax cuts for the same Special Interest Groups, who put the Republicans back into power...the wealthy top two percent, who they continue to pander to, and protect, at the demise of all of the others in America, whose jobs were outsourced under the Republican majority, and Bush, which in affect, paid them to outsource our jobs for Bush's entire tenure....!

But the big story, Mac, is that voters from the flyover states, are too stupid to realize that they vote against their own best interests...these are the people who think that a Health Care Bill, to help limit Insurance fraud against all of our citizens, and hold down costs, amounts to Socialism...stupid people who carry signs that say, "No Socialism For Med! Don't Touch My Medicare!"

G.

pooltchr
12-02-2010, 08:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

But the big story, Mac, is that voters from the flyover states, are too stupid to realize that they vote against their own best interests...these are the people who think that a Health Care Bill, to help limit Insurance fraud against all of our citizens, and hold down costs, amounts to Socialism...stupid people who carry signs that say, "No Socialism For Med! Don't Touch My Medicare!"

G.

</div></div>

No, Mac. The big story is that the Democrats, in the middle of the biggest economic crisis in decades, have decided to focus their attention on things like Obamacare, Gays in the military, and more free lunches for school kids, and done nothing to actually create an environment where businesses can get back to business, and get more people off unemployment.

They bought into the lie that spending a trillion dollars on pork projects would "stimulate" the economy.

Blind fools, all of them!!!!!!!

Steve

Qtec
12-02-2010, 08:52 AM
Why don't you actually try answering a question?


<span style='font-size: 14pt'>In baby language</span>...<u>so you can understand it</u> as I realise my original post probably had <span style='font-size: 14pt'>too many words in it for you.</span>

Why is it, that when Bush was Pres the GOP were all for it but when Obam became Pres they were all against it?

Q

Qtec
12-02-2010, 08:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, Mac. The big story is that the Democrats, in the middle of the biggest economic crisis in decades, </div></div>

............<span style='font-size: 26pt'>caused by the previous administration!</span>


Q

pooltchr
12-02-2010, 09:00 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, Mac. The big story is that the Democrats, in the middle of the biggest economic crisis in decades, </div></div>

............<span style='font-size: 26pt'>caused by the previous administration!</span>


Q </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 26pt'>And funded and supported by the Dem controlled congress!</span>


Steve

Qtec
12-02-2010, 09:15 AM
I see, 2001 to 2007 never happened. Bush controlled the house for 6 years and the senate for 4 years but its all the Dems fault. Good to know.

Q

eg8r
12-02-2010, 09:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why is it, that when Bush was Pres the GOP were all for it but when Obam became Pres they were all against it?

</div></div>What issue are you referring to exactly?

eg8r

Gayle in MD
12-02-2010, 09:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see, 2001 to 2007 never happened. Bush controlled the house for 6 years and the senate for 4 years but its all the Dems fault. Good to know.

Q </div></div>


This is why I don't read what they write.

It's all RW BS. then when you point that out, you get to read their vicious slander and filth.

It's all part of RW self hatred, and RW hatred against their fellow Americans, who in their minds, are all blacks, Mexicans, and Muslim Americans, who are on the dole....

That's how they think.

Hey, here's another thing they hate. Reagan, caused the illegal exodus to America, called Amnesty. He also took the solar panels off the W.H. Roof, and blocked pollution controls, and conservation...as did Bush Jr.

More people got ill, of course, from the poisons in the environment.

Republicans have kissed the asses of oil for decades, now, China, is leaving us in the dust, marching forward on renewables, battery power, solar, wind, while Republicans have subsidized the corporations who oursource our jobs, pollute the environment, making more people sick, and subsidized the polluters with taxes, paid by the Middle Class.

They actually increased pollution by protecting the worst offenders, blew away tax cuts to be spent on conservation, and protected The Health Insurance Industry, which caused higher emergency room costs, which translated into higher health costs, for all of us....

They are against cap and trade, which would begin to reduce pollution...and their only argument, is always the same BS, that more jobs will be outsourced if we hold the pigs to account for destroying the environment!!! Like they aren't going to outsource jobs anyway, while they're being subsidized to do it????

The biggest cause of health care cost increases, is obesity. where are the fattest among us? Yep, in the South....

G.

Qtec
12-02-2010, 10:02 AM
link (http://billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=328000#Post328000)

Q.......you could at least TRY reading the thread. Its only one page.

Gayle in MD
12-02-2010, 10:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why is it, that when Bush was Pres the GOP were all for it but when Obam became Pres they were all against it?

</div></div>What issue are you referring to exactly?

eg8r </div></div>

Basically, all of it, Ed. Take the Health Care Plan. It's identical to the plan of the Republicans, in the last decade. But when presented by the Obama Daministration, they propagandized it like it was a communist/socialist takeover!


Bush Jr., removed his own fathers' clean air and water act! Now we see why. Fracking,...for natural gas, which destroys the deep water Aquafer. Guess who is invested in the very land area, where it will be most profitable? Bush, Cheney, Rove and Rice! You should read about it, or watch the 60 minutes segment on it, it will destroy the tributaries in four states,

Hence, the Halliburton Loophole, which allowed these fracking companies to pollute, without being held to account, and having to reveal all of the dangerous chemicals they use in the fracking process, which will end up killing people, seeping into their well water, devalueing their land, and which in turn, can come out of their faucets, and be lighted on fire with a match!

That's Bush and Cheney for you....no regard for those people whose land is now worthless to them, because their wells are destroyed, if they're lucky enough to be alive, and not dying in a hospital from cancer....

They will make more people ill, as they have done since RR.

Then they will protect the health Insurance Industry, from covering the people they make ill.

And Americans vote for these people!!!

G.

eg8r
12-02-2010, 12:31 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Basically, all of it, Ed. Take the Health Care Plan. It's identical to the plan of the Republicans, in the last decade. But when presented by the Obama Daministration, they propagandized it like it was a communist/socialist takeover!

</div></div>It is a socialist takeover. In the last decade I can remember Hillary trying to get HC.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
12-02-2010, 12:54 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Basically, all of it, Ed. Take the Health Care Plan. It's identical to the plan of the Republicans, in the last decade. But when presented by the Obama Daministration, they propagandized it like it was a communist/socialist takeover!

</div></div>It is a socialist takeover. In the last decade I can remember Hillary trying to get HC.

eg8r </div></div>

Yes, and Republicans offered up their own plan, different from Hillary's, which was identical to the President's current plan....and in fact, even stronger, with a publilc option, which they all voted against this time.

G.

eg8r
12-02-2010, 01:16 PM
I seriously doubt when Obama took over and announced he had won and the Reps should get in line that he just went over and took their HC playbook and signed it into law.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
12-02-2010, 01:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I seriously doubt when Obama took over and announced he had won and the Reps should get in line that he just went over and took their HC playbook and signed it into law.

eg8r </div></div>

<span style="color: #CC0000">He didn't write the bill, Ed. Five or six committees, of Democratcis and Republicans, wrote the bill, and it was modeled on the same bill that republicans came up with during the Clinton Administration, and on Mitt Romney's health Care Bill, in his own state of Mass. </span>

eg8r
12-02-2010, 03:18 PM
You know what is the worst part of all this...no one actually read it. Pelosi told us all to just wait till it comes out and we will have plenty of time then to figure it out.

eg8r

pooltchr
12-02-2010, 03:19 PM
And we all know how well it worked out in Massachusetts, don't we?


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Steve

Gayle in MD
12-02-2010, 03:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You know what is the worst part of all this...no one actually read it. Pelosi told us all to just wait till it comes out and we will have plenty of time then to figure it out.

eg8r </div></div>

They had it for months, Ed. The representatives don't read anything, anyway, they pay their aides to read everything.

I know, I used to do it!

Do you know how many aides most of them have?

How many bills do you thin they ever actually read?

They talk with the various committee chairmen, to find out what's in there...

You believe every silly lie the put out there, don't you.

They had ample time to find out what was in it, and ample opportunity to puut what they wanted in it, and inact it included over one hundred and eighty-seven Republican Amendments in it, and They STILL ALL VOTED AGAINST IT!

The only things they wanted was exactly what they stated, to block everything, and get rid of a Democratic President.

Great goals to have in the middle of a recession that THEY created!

disgusting P's O S!

G.

eg8r
12-02-2010, 03:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They had it for months, Ed. The representatives don't read anything, anyway, they pay their aides to read everything.

</div></div>So they vote on these things and never read them. We should vote them all out for not doing their jobs.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
12-02-2010, 03:56 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They had it for months, Ed. The representatives don't read anything, anyway, they pay their aides to read everything.

</div></div>So they vote on these things and never read them. We should vote them all out for not doing their jobs.

eg8r </div></div>

Very few of them actually read everything....and that's why we should change the way things are doone up there.

One Bill for one problem at a time.

No more sneaking anything in at the last minute, by anyone.

They'll never change it! Know why? That's where they get their bribe money, sneaking in all those earmarks, and extra favors, for the contirbutors, that's why they don't want public financed campaigns...too...

Hey, they're all crooks. You vote for the crooks that you think are doing the least amount of damage. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Great system, huh?

G.

eg8r
12-02-2010, 04:00 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very few of them actually read everything....and that's why we should change the way things are doone up there.

One Bill for one problem at a time.

No more sneaking anything in at the last minute, by anyone.

</div></div>I agree.

eg8r

hondo
12-02-2010, 04:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: punter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gayle, people like you are so fuckking brain dead, it is legal to use you for firewood. </div></div>

Obviously, sev's post opened the door for all the tea baggers
to say whatever they want in whatever language.
I'm afraid to report him.
The last time I complained about punter was on AZ and I was immediately tossed.

hondo
12-02-2010, 04:08 PM
You must be very proud of your buddy punter's post.

sack316
12-02-2010, 04:21 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Very few of them actually read everything....and that's why we should change the way things are doone up there.

One Bill for one problem at a time.

No more sneaking anything in at the last minute, by anyone.

They'll never change it! Know why? That's where they get their bribe money, sneaking in all those earmarks, and extra favors, for the contirbutors, that's why they don't want public financed campaigns...too...

Hey, they're all crooks. You vote for the crooks that you think are doing the least amount of damage. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Great system, huh?

G. </div></div>

100% full agreement here! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif LOVE LOVE LOVE it when that happens! Too bad it such a crappy thing we find ourselves agreeing on...

Sack

Gayle in MD
12-03-2010, 12:19 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Very few of them actually read everything....and that's why we should change the way things are doone up there.

One Bill for one problem at a time.

No more sneaking anything in at the last minute, by anyone.

They'll never change it! Know why? That's where they get their bribe money, sneaking in all those earmarks, and extra favors, for the contirbutors, that's why they don't want public financed campaigns...too...

Hey, they're all crooks. You vote for the crooks that you think are doing the least amount of damage. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Great system, huh?

G. </div></div>

100% full agreement here! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif LOVE LOVE LOVE it when that happens! Too bad it such a crappy thing we find ourselves agreeing on...

Sack </div></div>

<span style="color: #990000">I've been saying that for years. People just deny what I've been saying, all along.

I sould include though, that there are a few exception, IMO. Some were righties, and some were lefties, so my statement really doesn't include every single one, it's a general statement.

G.
S. I think Bush was the worst president in history. Clinton was great, Reagan sucked, Obama has done a fine job, under the conditions prevailing. Palin is an egomaniac who is a vey bad mother.</span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

sack316
12-03-2010, 02:15 PM
oh yeah that was assumed, we all know you can never take a group and include every single person of the group in any specific description.

There are good republicans, and there are bad republicans. There are good democrats, and there are bad democrats. There are some from each that truly do want to serve the people and do right by our country... and there are some from each that have let ego, power, and personal interests get in their way.

Guess it's our job to keep an eye on them, hold them accountable, and try to keep as many of the good ones in office as possible.

Sack

pooltchr
12-03-2010, 02:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Guess it's our job to keep an eye on them, hold them accountable, and try to keep as many of the good ones in office as possible.

Sack </div></div>

And one of the most important ways of doing that is to quit voting for or against someone based only on the letter after their name.

Anyone who uses the party affiliation to determine whether or not to vote for someone should have their right to vote cancelled. It is, by far, the most ignorant thing any citizen can do in the voting booth.

Steve

ugotda7
12-03-2010, 04:49 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: punter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gayle, people like you are so fuckking brain dead, it is legal to use you for firewood. </div></div>

Obviously, sev's post opened the door for all the tea baggers
to say whatever they want in whatever language.
I'm afraid to report him.
The last time I complained about punter was on AZ and I was immediately tossed. </div></div>

You must be very proud of this post....

Stretch
12-04-2010, 04:36 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: punter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gayle, people like you are so fuckking brain dead, it is legal to use you for firewood. </div></div>

Obviously, sev's post opened the door for all the tea baggers
to say whatever they want in whatever language.
I'm afraid to report him.
The last time I complained about punter was on AZ and I was immediately tossed. </div></div>

Hondo, that's what i thought too. The RW Trolls on AZ heard that it's open season on the Left here. They can ply their trade with impunity. St.

LWW
12-04-2010, 04:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The last time I complained about punter was on AZ and I was immediately tossed. </div></div>

Why do you continue with lame story after lame story to explain your banishment on AZB?

The truth is you were banned ... after several warnings, a banishment that was rescinded after the wailing and gnashing of teeth combined with crocodile tears, several more warnings and a final assault against the forum's civility ... for incessant trolling, cyber stalking, harassment of members, and threats of violence.

IOW ... pretty much the same behavior you have shown here.

LWW

Gayle in MD
12-04-2010, 08:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oh yeah that was assumed, we all know you can never take a group and include every single person of the group in any specific description.

There are good republicans, and there are bad republicans. There are good democrats, and there are bad democrats. There are some from each that truly do want to serve the people and do right by our country... and there are some from each that have let ego, power, and personal interests get in their way.

Guess it's our job to keep an eye on them, hold them accountable, and try to keep as many of the good ones in office as possible.

Sack </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Andrew Card's 'arrogant' accusation

Andy Card, chief of staff under President George W. Bush, had me leaping out of my chair on the set of "Morning Joe" today. Several times during the interview he accused President Obama of being "arrogant." He said that Obama should get back to governing by listening to Republicans and incorporating their ideas into legislation. Um, hello?!




As David Frum noted in his blistering come-to-Jesus blog post on the Republican Party and its opposition to the health-care bill,<span style='font-size: 14pt'> "The Obama plan has a broad family resemblance to Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts plan. It builds on ideas developed at the Heritage Foundation in the early 1990s that formed the basis for Republican counter-proposals to Clintoncare in 1993-1994."</span>

<span style="color: #CC0000">Now see what Ed, (and probably, the rest of the right, in this thread, except for you) wrote in this thread? this is why I get fed up with their BS. Did he even know that the HC Plan was basically the same damned Republican Plan as Republicans all wanted, and voted for in 1994?

AH.....Noooooooooooo! Obviously, he didn't. Hence, you can see why I find it such a waste of time, even reading what they write for a short little interlude.

Their lack of knowledge, followed by their insistance for proof of things they should already know about, which renders their irrational statements, and accusations, completely irrelevant, makes communication with them a waste of my time...

Republicans voted against their own Health Care Plan, just to cripple this presidency, have the time to lie about what was in Bill, ie. scare peopole, slander the Dems, and destroy President Obama, just as they stated, from the start...WATERLOO???

Death Panels? LMAO, the only Death Panel is that ugly witch Governor, Jan Brewer, who is sentencing the poor sick people in her state, to die, without getting the organ transplants, etc., which they have been waiting in line for, in order to survive.

You can bet your life that her friends and family will get whatever THEY need.</span>



Obama is set to announce the end of the moratorium on off-shore oil drilling off the east coast and Alaska today. I guess Card has forgotten the "drill baby drill" chants at the Republican convention in 2008. And perhaps he doesn't think the Obama administration's work with Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-S.C.) on a comprehensive energy bill, immigration and terrorism counts as reaching out to the GOP.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>After the Bush presidency, which many viewed as eight years of arrogance at home and abroad, Card calling Obama "arrogant" is the ultimate Pot-meet-Kettle exercise. </span></div></div>

Video of Card's repulsive statements from Morning Joe... here:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/03/andrew_cards_arrogant_accusati.html

[color:#CC0000] We all watched the President extend a hand, and a desire to work WITH the Republicans, for two years, and they had one answer. NO, NO to everything, including their own former legislation, and even when 167 amendmennts straight from THEM, were included.

They put this country into a Debt Hole, BUSH AND THE REPUBLICANS! Then they figured they could count on their stupid base, to forget all about how we got into it. They were right! Easy to mislead these pe0ople, when you have folks like Ed, who didn't even know that the Bill was basically a Republican Bill, all along!

Watch this video and tell me this SOB CArd, isn't a repul;sive POS!

Qtec
12-04-2010, 08:45 AM
I watched it, it was hard but I watched it. This is what's wrong with American politics. Card can spew lie after lie and nobody challenges him on it.

Q

Oh yeah, he also says Bush lost control of the Senate 'very early on', in 2001. True but he doesn't mention that he got it back the next year and held it until 2007!

link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6395615)







<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Majority Party (Jan 20-June 6, 2001): Republican (50 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (50 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 100

______

Majority Party (June 6, 2001-November 12, 2002 --): Democrat (50 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (49 seats)

Other Parties: 1

Total Seats: 100

_____

Majority Party (November 12, 2002 - January 3, 2003): Republican (50 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (48 seats)

Other Parties: 2

Total Seats: 100

Note: From January 3 to January 20, 2001, with the Senate divided evenly between the two parties, the Democrats held the majority due to the deciding vote of outgoing Democratic Vice President Al Gore. Senator Thomas A. Daschle served as majority leader at that time. Beginning on January 20, 2001, Republican Vice President Richard Cheney held the deciding vote, giving the majority to the Republicans. Senator Trent Lott resumed his position as majority leader on that date. On May 24, 2001, Senator James Jeffords of Vermont announced his switch from Republican to Independent status, effective June 6, 2001. Jeffords announced that he would caucus with the Democrats, giving the Democrats a one-seat advantage, changing control of the Senate from the Republicans back to the Democrats. Senator Thomas A. Daschle again became majority leader on June 6, 2001. Senator Paul D. Wellstone (D-MN) died on October 25, 2002, and Independent Dean Barkley was appointed to fill the vacancy. The November 5, 2002 election brought to office elected Senator James Talent (R-MO), replacing appointed Senator Jean Carnahan (D-MO), shifting balance once again to the Republicans -- but no reorganization was completed at that time since the Senate was out of session.
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<span style="color: #CC0000">108th Congress (2003-2005)

Majority Party: Republican (51 seats)</span>

Minority Party: Democrat (48 seats)

Other Parties: Independent (1 seat)

Total Seats: 100

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<span style="color: #CC0000">109th Congress (2005-2007)

Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)</span>

Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)

Other Parties: Independent (1 seat)

Total Seats: 100 </div></div>

Gayle in MD
12-04-2010, 09:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I watched it, it was hard but I watched it. This is what's wrong with American politics. Card can spew lie after lie and nobody challenges him on it.

Q

Oh yeah, he also says Bush lost control of the Senate 'very early on', in 2001. True but he doesn't mention that he got it back the next year and held it until 2007!

link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6395615)







<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Majority Party (Jan 20-June 6, 2001): Republican (50 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (50 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 100

______

Majority Party (June 6, 2001-November 12, 2002 --): Democrat (50 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (49 seats)

Other Parties: 1

Total Seats: 100

_____

Majority Party (November 12, 2002 - January 3, 2003): Republican (50 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (48 seats)

Other Parties: 2

Total Seats: 100

Note: From January 3 to January 20, 2001, with the Senate divided evenly between the two parties, the Democrats held the majority due to the deciding vote of outgoing Democratic Vice President Al Gore. Senator Thomas A. Daschle served as majority leader at that time. Beginning on January 20, 2001, Republican Vice President Richard Cheney held the deciding vote, giving the majority to the Republicans. Senator Trent Lott resumed his position as majority leader on that date. On May 24, 2001, Senator James Jeffords of Vermont announced his switch from Republican to Independent status, effective June 6, 2001. Jeffords announced that he would caucus with the Democrats, giving the Democrats a one-seat advantage, changing control of the Senate from the Republicans back to the Democrats. Senator Thomas A. Daschle again became majority leader on June 6, 2001. Senator Paul D. Wellstone (D-MN) died on October 25, 2002, and Independent Dean Barkley was appointed to fill the vacancy. The November 5, 2002 election brought to office elected Senator James Talent (R-MO), replacing appointed Senator Jean Carnahan (D-MO), shifting balance once again to the Republicans -- but no reorganization was completed at that time since the Senate was out of session.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

<span style="color: #CC0000">108th Congress (2003-2005)

Majority Party: Republican (51 seats)</span>

Minority Party: Democrat (48 seats)

Other Parties: Independent (1 seat)

Total Seats: 100

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

<span style="color: #CC0000">109th Congress (2005-2007)

Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)</span>

Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)

Other Parties: Independent (1 seat)

Total Seats: 100 </div></div> </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>Yep, but it's all the Dems fault, that this economic quagmire, a direct result of failed Republican Policies, all of it, over years of Republican control, yet when all of it finally brought the country to the brink of disaster...blame the Dems!
They also conflate, the so called mandate, from the election, beyond belief.

Nobody voted for the Republican policies of the past, they were duped by the powerful Republican Propaganda machine, Republicans OWN the media. If not for that, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Repubs are firmly in the back pockets of the wealthy, where they have always been, and will continue to be, hence, the massive redistribution of wealth, upwards, which should be obvious to all, yet they are still on here suggesting that we'll lose jobs, if we make these thieves from the top two percent, finally start to pay just a smidgeon, of what they stole and what they owe!

Ed, doesn't even know who has been stealing from him for the last ten years!!

g.


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