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Fred Agnir
09-05-2002, 10:37 AM
Read carefully, folks, cuz this may be my one and only helpful post this year ;-) I've been on a little (very little) cue design stupor. What I've found is that regardless of how original I think I'm being (as far as mixing woods goes), I've come to find that nothing is original.

All that in mind, my quest to find exotic woods has landed me in what so far has been the bounty of sites at which I can fantasize with complete privacy.

So, without further ado:

http://www.gilmerwood.com/Gilmerwood%20Wood%20Sample%20Images.htm (http://www.gilmerwood.com/unique.htm>http://www.gilmerwood.com/unique.htm</a>

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In case anyone is wondering, one of the cues I'm having built is going to have this page's version of Bois de Rose.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Brian in VA
09-05-2002, 11:01 AM
Hey Fred,
I've ordered wood from these folks before for a guitar I was building. They have one of the largest collections of exotics I've ever seen and they are terrific at getting it to you quickly and just what you ordered. That Bois de Rose will make for a very pretty cue. How will it be used in the cue itself?
You'll post pictures when you get it, won't you?

Brian
P.S. I'm drooling already.

Rod
09-05-2002, 11:26 AM
Great site Fred and thanks. That sure is a lot of beautiful wood. Good choice on the wood for your cue. A picture will be in order when it is finished. I liked all of the one of a kind boards but that Camphor Burl really caught my eye. I'd be afraid to use it or Amboyna Burl as a handle though, it might be brittle and break. I saw a heavy birds eye maple break in front of my eyes and the guy was just holding the cue. I mean it was a smooth no splinter break.

~~~ mans got to know his woods

Q-guy
09-05-2002, 11:44 AM
You may want to consider scrimshaw. It can be done in several ways. One is to just inlay a window and it becomes the frame for the scrimshaw work. Another is to scrim on an inlay such as a diamond shape. Another way is to do an inlay of something like say an eagle. The inlay is the profile of the subject and the fine detail is filled in with scrimshaw. A cue is a piece of art form, and although it seems like everything has been done, the possibility for original design is really limitless. When you go to a cue show though, it is a little surpassing how little originality you see. They all just copy each other.

Rich R.
09-05-2002, 11:52 AM
Great site Fred. That wood is beautiful. I can imagine it in a cue. Some of the other woods are also great.
Can you tell me, is the Bois de Rose the same wood as is commonly referred to as Madagascar Rosewood, or is that a different species altogether?
Also, would you care to share the name of the cue maker?
If not, I understand.
Please post pictures when the cue is finished.
Rich R.

Fred Agnir
09-05-2002, 12:19 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote: Rich R.:</font><hr> Can you tell me, is the Bois de Rose the same wood as is commonly referred to as Madagascar Rosewood,<hr></blockquote>


I've seen Bois de Rose listed as a Rosewood-family wood. I've also seen it listed as a Bocote-family wood.

This stuff on the Gilmer site is the Rosewood - Dalberia maritama which many sites list as Madagascar Rosewood. However, other sites list Dalberia greveana as Madagascar Rosewood.

In other words, I have no clue. It's burgundy-ish. That's about the limit of my expertise



<hr></blockquote>Also, would you care to share the name of the cue maker?
If not, I understand.<hr></blockquote>
The guy I'm going with is a friend from rec.sport.billiard, Murray Tucker. Murray only makes a dozen cues a year as a side hobby of sorts. I had the opportunity to play with one of his cues, and after looking at his site, I decided to start the process. My first step was to tell him that I wanted to have a cue made that didn't have ebony, maple, or cocobolo (my favorite wood)in the butt. Off I went.

<a target="_blank" href=http://www.tuckerbuilt.com/iii/>http://www.tuckerbuilt.com/iii/</a>

Check out the RSB/ASP cue.

Fred

Q-guy
09-05-2002, 12:45 PM
You may also want to check this place out. They are the source many of the other suppliers actually buy from.

<a target="_blank" href=http://www.eisenbran.com>www.eisenbran.com</a>

You have to know what you are buying. You can be fooled by the names. For example, most of what is sold on the market as pink ivory, is not. It is easy to fool the public because they assume the seller is telling the truth and they would not know the difference anyway.

Rich R.
09-05-2002, 01:33 PM
Thanks for the information Fred.
In my limited reading about different exotic woods, I have found that many of them are know by several different names. That is why I asked.
My compliments to Mr. Tucker. His cues look terrific. I think you are in good hands. I would find it hard to call this man a hobbyist. His website is also first class.
I look forward to checking back and seeing your cue under construction.
Rich R.

Rich R.
09-05-2002, 02:44 PM
Fred, I just answered my own question. On the Gilmer website in a section called "Species &amp; Name Index", they list three different species that are all called Madagascar Rosewood.
Rich R.