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Qtec
01-07-2011, 05:09 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pete Sessions Breaks Rules, Briefly Shuts Down Rules Committee


Call it a stumble out of the gate. Or a failure to find the gate entirely. Veteran Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX) and freshman Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-PA) <span style='font-size: 20pt'>failed to make the official swearing in ceremony yesterday, a violation of the Constitution </span>that has sent Republicans scrambling and briefly brought an end to the new majority's push to repeal the health care reform law.

While the rest of the House was being made official in the chamber, Sessions and Fitzpatrick were outside the room at an event for Fitzpatrick supporters. The pair reportedly took their oath to a televised image from inside the chamber. Huffington Post's Ryan Grimm reports the event was part of fundraiser for Fitzpatrick.

Freshly-minted House Rules Committee chair David Dreier (R-CA) had to recess hearings on repealing the health care law after he learned that Sessions, a member of the committee, was not in fact a Constitutionally-valid member of the 112th Congress. Sessions had been casting votes all day like the duly-sworn members on the committee.

Dreier spokesperson Jo Maney told TPM that she "didn't know it happened" that Sessions wasn't sworn in, but after Dreier found out about it, he recessed the hearing to sort out the mess.

Sessions has now been officially sworn in as required by the Constitution, Maney said. The same goes for Fitzpatrick, she said, though that's of less concern to the health care repeal as he's not a member of the Rules Committee like Sessions is. <u>But the failure to be sworn in could mean the rules package the House passed on Wednesday doesn't count, according to Roll Call.</u> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>The action is now behind the scenes, as Speaker John Boehner tries to persuade House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to agree to a unanimous consent decree that would make all the work Sessions and Fitzpatrick did over the past day count retroactively.
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Pelosi's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment on how that process is going. </div></div>

LOL

link (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/pete-sessions-breaks-rules-shuts-down-rules-committee-1.php?ref=fpa)


What else?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">House Reading Amended Slavery-Free Constitution This Morning

Instead of reading the Constitution in its entirety, House members will read an "amended version" that only includes the sections and amendments that were not changed at a later date. The decision in part will allow members to avoid reading less pleasant sections, like the clause in Article 1, Section 2, which counted black slaves as three-fifths of a person.

The reading of the Constitution on the House floor has never been done before, and it's only happening today thanks to the tea party. Throughout the campaign last year, "returning to the Constitution" (in a vague and largely undefined way) was sacred to the tea party, and supporters of reading the document aloud today seem to hope that hearing the words in the House chamber will cause members to adhere to the document more closely.

Democrats and Republicans are expected to participate in the reading, but not all members of Congress think it's a worthy use of their time. </div></div>

A total waste of time and money.

What else?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">CBO: <span style='font-size: 17pt'>GOP Health Care Repeal Adds $230 Billion to Deficit</span>


Today is shaping up as a very bad day for the quixotic GOP effort to repeal the 2010 health care reform law. <span style="color: #990000">Even as the number two House Republican Eric Cantor was telling the CBS Early Show that the Affordable Care Act is full of "budget gimmickry" that "costs over $1 trillion," <u>the Congressional Budget Office was making a liar out of him.</u></span> As the new CBO analysis revealed, the GOP's repeal effort <span style='font-size: 20pt'>wouldn't merely deny health care coverage to 32 million Americans, over the next decade Republicans would add a staggering $230 billion to the national debt.</span>

As ThinkProgress summed up the findings from the CBO, the GOP's H.R. 2, the Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act would not only lead to higher out of pocket costs, reduced benefits and saddle employers with higher premiums. Over the next 10 years and beyond, budget-busting Republicans if successful would unleash a flood of red ink:

"Consequently, over the 2012-2021 period, the effect of H.R. 2 on federal deficits as a result of changes in direct spending and revenues is likely to be an increase in the vicinity of $230 billion, plus or minus the effects of technical and economic changes to CBO's and JCT's projections for that period..."

"Correspondingly, CBO estimates that enacting H.R. 2 would increase federal deficits in the decade after 2019 by an amount that is in a broad range around one-half percent of GDP, plus or minus the effects of technical and economic changes that CBO and JCT will include in the forthcoming estimate. For the decade beginning after 2021, the effect of H.R. 2 on federal deficits as a share of the economy would probably be somewhat larger."

For his part, Rep. Cantor remains unencumbered - and undeterred - by the truth.

On Wednesday, Cantor tried to brush off the CBO's inconvenient truth. "About the budget implications, I think most people understand that the CBO did the job it was asked to do by the then-Democrat majority, and it was really comparing apples to oranges," Cantor said. "It talked about 10 years' worth of tax hikes and six years' worth of benefits. Everyone knows beyond the 10-year window, this bill has the potential to bankrupt this federal government as well as the states." Today, as CBS reported, he doubled down:

Cantor also disputed the claim, put forth by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, that the health care reform bill passed by Congress last year will actually reduce the deficit by $143 billion, calling the figure "budget gimmickry."

"I think what we do know is the health care bill costs over $1 trillion," Cantor told Hill. "And we know it was full of budget gimmickry. And it spends money we don't have in this country."

Even before the CBO published its latest report pulling the rug out from under the Republicans' bogus budget claims, Ezra Klein of the Washington Post responded, "Repealing health-care reform would cost hundreds of billions of dollars -- and Eric Cantor knows it." </div></div>


There is a lot more but all this incompetence, lies and broken promises <span style='font-size: 14pt'>on the first day!</span>

They do like to set records.

Q


Q

Qtec
01-07-2011, 05:21 AM
Oh yeah, let's not forget this one.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>Promised GOP Budget Cuts May Be Much Lower Than Promised</span>

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Surely this must be a mistake!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WASHINGTON -- The GOP "budget cut" numbers are getting squishier by the minute. At least it seemed that way in the hallways of the Capitol on a ceremonial first day of swearing-ins, family photo ops and back-slapping goodwill.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Republicans campaigned coast to coast on, among other things, a promise to cut $100 billion out of the federal budget.</span>

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>But now they are talking about cuts as slim as $30 billion</span>, blaming the change on the fine print that no one read -- or if they read, did not understand.

It turns out the $100-billion figure meant $100 billion from a budget that President Barack Obama proposed, which was never passed. And now that the fiscal year is nearly half over, well, there's just no way ... </div></div>

O Dear!!!!!!!!!! LOL (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/05/30-billion-budget-cuts-what-budget-cuts_n_804976.html)

LWW
01-07-2011, 06:23 AM
[quote=Qtec] <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pete Sessions Breaks Rules, Briefly Shuts Down Rules Committee


Call it a stumble out of the gate. Or a failure to find the gate entirely. Veteran Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX) and freshman Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-PA) <span style='font-size: 20pt'>failed to make the official swearing in ceremony yesterday, a violation of the Constitution </span>

Q </div></div>

Can you cite the section of the COTUS that they violated?

What's that?

You can't?

You just accepted the word of a moonbat?

Imagine that.

LWW

Gayle in MD
01-07-2011, 06:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh yeah, let's not forget this one.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>Promised GOP Budget Cuts May Be Much Lower Than Promised</span>

</div></div>

Surely this must be a mistake!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WASHINGTON -- The GOP "budget cut" numbers are getting squishier by the minute. At least it seemed that way in the hallways of the Capitol on a ceremonial first day of swearing-ins, family photo ops and back-slapping goodwill.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Republicans campaigned coast to coast on, among other things, a promise to cut $100 billion out of the federal budget.</span>

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>But now they are talking about cuts as slim as $30 billion</span>, blaming the change on the fine print that no one read -- or if they read, did not understand.

It turns out the $100-billion figure meant $100 billion from a budget that President Barack Obama proposed, which was never passed. And now that the fiscal year is nearly half over, well, there's just no way ... </div></div>

O Dear!!!!!!!!!! LOL (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/05/30-billion-budget-cuts-what-budget-cuts_n_804976.html) </div></div>


The Hypocrites were in full bloom!

I didn't think their deceit would be so obvious in the first day and a half.

So far, everything in their glossy little Madison Avenue styled "Pledge To America" has looked like a high speed moon walk, back from everything they "Pretended" they were committed to, lol, same ol' same ol' Repiglicans.

G.

LWW
01-07-2011, 06:33 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">House Reading Amended Slavery-Free Constitution This Morning

Instead of reading the Constitution in its entirety, House members will read an "amended version" that only includes the sections and amendments that were not changed at a later date. The decision in part will allow members to avoid reading less pleasant sections, like the clause in Article 1, Section 2, which counted black slaves as three-fifths of a person.

The reading of the Constitution on the House floor has never been done before, and it's only happening today thanks to the tea party. Throughout the campaign last year, "returning to the Constitution" (in a vague and largely undefined way) was sacred to the tea party, and supporters of reading the document aloud today seem to hope that hearing the words in the House chamber will cause members to adhere to the document more closely.

Democrats and Republicans are expected to participate in the reading, but not all members of Congress think it's a worthy use of their time. </div></div>

Q </div></div>

The amended COTUS IS the COTUS ... I know you hate logic, but there is no simpler way to state it.

The COTUS has a built in means of changing it for the times ... it's called the amendment process:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Article 5.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall
propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the
Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for
proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and
Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of
three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths
thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the
Congress</div></div>


The left despises the amendment process because it requires a supermajority ... whereas getting as little as 1 federal judge can achieve de facto the same thing.

LWW

Sev
01-07-2011, 07:47 AM
Better days are coming.

eg8r
01-07-2011, 08:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Call it a stumble out of the gate. Or a failure to find the gate entirely. Veteran Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX) and freshman Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-PA) failed to make the official swearing in ceremony yesterday, a violation of the Constitution that has sent Republicans scrambling and briefly brought an end to the new majority's push to repeal the health care reform law.
</div></div>Complete idiot.

eg8r

eg8r
01-07-2011, 08:33 AM
30 billion certainly is no 100 billion so I agree that would be a loss on their part. From what I have seen over the years the politicians, economists and the CBO have never been right about a single figure which they have proposed. They ammend the heck out of every figure and never in the positive direction. This is pretty sad. No one has ever been able to provide an example, let alone a couple, of the Government achieving their goals within their own specified limits.

But I digress. Basically what we have here is the Reps backtracking a good bit on how much they can cut and we have lefties on this board hypocritically attacking on day one after pleading for people to give Obama a chance.

eg8r

pooltchr
01-07-2011, 10:58 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

<span style='font-size: 14pt'> we have lefties on this board hypocritically attacking on day one after pleading for people to give Obama a chance.</span>
eg8r </div></div>

Ain't <u>that</u> the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!

LWW
01-07-2011, 12:37 PM
Oh c'mon ... why hasn't Boehner lowered the UE rate? He's had a few days already!

Oh, wait, it was down according to the regime's most recent stats.

Let's see ... UE leaps after the democrooks take over the house in 2006. UE starts to drop as soon as the democrooks lose the house in 2010.

It may take a quadrupling of spoonage to get the O-cult to comprehend that one in a favorable way for the regime.

LWW

Soflasnapper
01-07-2011, 12:38 PM
"Lefties" are chortling in amusement. Boehner and Co. are stumbling badly out of the gate. Who knew?

Now, by contrast, consider the entirely appropriate RAGE of the teaparty at these <u>immediate </u> backtrackings. The PROMISE of the immediate $100 billion in cuts (which not only lefties, but all Dems and any informed person, actually, knew was hockum) somehow NOW was only a 'hypothetical,' since they didn't know the fiscal year started October 1 of last year???!!!

Really, that's what they've said. It was a 'hypothetical' cut figure, and they only now know that the fiscal year is already under way.

And yet their apologists here think... what, exactly? They're covered themselves in glory with this clownish bad faith behavior?

pooltchr
01-07-2011, 12:41 PM
For the next two years, if they follow their typical pattern, anything good that happens will be because of Obama, and anything bad that happens will be the fault of the Republican controlled House.

The cast may change...but with the left...the story remains the same.

Steve

LWW
01-07-2011, 12:58 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Lefties" are chortling in amusement. Boehner and Co. are stumbling badly out of the gate. Who knew?

Now, by contrast, consider the entirely appropriate RAGE of the teaparty at these <u>immediate </u> backtrackings. The PROMISE of the immediate $100 billion in cuts (which not only lefties, but all Dems and any informed person, actually, knew was hockum) somehow NOW was only a 'hypothetical,' since they didn't know the fiscal year started October 1 of last year???!!!

Really, that's what they've said. It was a 'hypothetical' cut figure, and they only now know that the fiscal year is already under way.

And yet their apologists here think... what, exactly? They're covered themselves in glory with this clownish bad faith behavior? </div></div>

I never took you for a spoon licker.

I might have been wrong.

In leftist logic, dear leader proposed a budget. The democrooks never passed ANY budget AT ALL FOR 2011.

Therefore, the R's are guilty because the democrook congress was grossly negligent of it's constitutional duties.

Now, they may back track on their duty as well ... and if they do I'll be at the front of the pack ... but this is a raw meat of hate, fabricated issue spoon fed to the naive and hyper-partisan left by the regime's wordsmiths.

LWW

eg8r
01-07-2011, 07:27 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Lefties" are chortling in amusement. Boehner and Co. are stumbling badly out of the gate. Who knew?
</div></div>To better understand my post I recommend reading the archives here about the time Obama took office.

eg8r

LWW
01-08-2011, 04:38 AM
You are assuming that a single leftist here has any desire to:

1 - Actually understand anything other than party orders.

2 - Judge any two things or people of differing ideology by a single standard.

I used to believe in such things myself once. They have taught me the error of my ways.

LWW