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Qtec
01-10-2011, 08:20 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Giffords warned in March of ‘consequences’ to Palin’s violent rhetoric </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"The thing is, the way that she has it depicted -- <span style='font-size: 17pt'>the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district -- when people do that, they've got to realize that there's consequences for that action," she said. </span> </div></div>




link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tTDiZZYCAs&feature=player_embedded)



Q

Gayle in MD
01-10-2011, 08:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Giffords warned in March of ‘consequences’ to Palin’s violent rhetoric </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"The thing is, the way that she has it depicted -- <span style='font-size: 17pt'>the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district -- when people do that, they've got to realize that there's consequences for that action," she said. </span> </div></div>




link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tTDiZZYCAs&feature=player_embedded)



Q </div></div>

Guns and killing rhetoric in the political venue has been comoing almost entirely from the right for years. Now, they want to deny it, and say it was coming from both sides.

Really? I didn't se it! Most others didn't see it either, according to what I have read, and also, according to the congresswoman's own father.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm sure Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., meant well when he told CNN's Candy Crowley that when it comes to correlating the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., and nearly 20 others with the recent violent rhetoric of certain political factions and figures, "I don't think you can ever make the direct connection."

We have done so before, though. In the 1990s, it was commonplace for politicians of both parties to chastise rappers like Ice-T and rockers like Marilyn Manson for the violent imagery and lyrical content that politicians felt they promoted and link them to the violent acts of others.

Why not now?


Perhaps Durbin's reluctance to finger-point stems from his own past political gaffes, but the rest of us needn't be coy about which political group has been invoking most of the violent imagery and language lately.

While we still don't know the motivations of 22-year-old Jared Lee Loughner, Giffords' 75-year-old father was quite clear about where the allegiances of a sizable share of his daughter's enemies lie.

"Yeah, the whole tea party," a tearful Spencer Giffords said bluntly.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Sure, unnecessary rhetoric in politics applies to people of every political persuasion, but the most vitriolic and the most incendiary comes from the tea party.</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>It could very well be coincidental that Giffords just happened to be one of the 20 House Democrats Sarah Palin placed on her "target list." But by using crosshair images to show each targeted politician's district and telling her supporters via Twitter, "Don't Retreat, Instead -- RELOAD!," she unnecessarily employed imagery and expressions that indirectly glorified violence.</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>A Palin aid called it "obscene" and "appalling" to blame the ex-Alaskan governor for the shooting. That doesn't change the fact that it was sophomoric and flat-out irresponsible of her to play around with the words and images she used. No wonder Palin has since removed the map from her website.</span>

Palin apologists argue that military terminology has been used for ages. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Repetition does not make something acceptable, nor does it make it any less connected.</span>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>The shooter may have been mentally ill, as is suggested, but the likes of Loughner do not draw their obsessions with violence out of thin air. They draw their vocabulary and imagery from culture, and in the current political culture, Palin and her tea party brethren are the ones dangerously fanning the flames.</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>
It is House tea party caucus leader Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., asking supporters to rally against the "gangster government."</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>It is Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, saying, "Thomas Jefferson said the tree of liberty will be fed by the blood of tyrants and patriots. You are the modern-day patriots."</span>
<span style='font-size: 14pt'>
It is Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, declaring, "Let's beat that other side to a pulp. Let's take them out, let's chase them down."</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>It is Rep. Wally Herger, R-Calif., telling a self-identified "right-wing terrorist," "Amen. God bless you. There's a great American."</span>
<span style='font-size: 14pt'>It is former tea party Senate hopeful Sharron Angle discussing </span><span style='font-size: 14pt'>"Second Amendment remedies" </span>to settle differences between her ilk and Congress.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>We cannot allow them to hide behind hyperbole and metaphor. They must be compelled to stand behind their words.</span>

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>If there is proved to be no relation between the tea party and Loughner, fine. But there is nevertheless a growing danger in this country. A danger former President Bill Clinton warned about last year when noting the increased threats against President Barack Obama and members of Congress.

If politicians' words incite hatred, glorify violence and pander to the weak-minded, then they are a part of the problem -- and they need to be held accountable. </span></div></div>

<span style="color: #990000">IMO, it's a sick country when you have one side of the isle who constantly pushes for no gun controls, while at the same time, they irresponsibly use killing, maps using gun sights to target people, and shooting language aimed at their political contemporaries.

"I want Minnesotians to be armed and dangerous" Michelle Bachmann

"Don't retreat, reload"
Sara Palin

We have a member here who for years praised murderers who kill abortion doctors, and another, and several others who have called me a baby killer, because I believe in a woman's right to have personal control over her own body, and a right to her privacy about her personal family decisions.

Yet, these same people accuse me of hate, when I condemn their own hateful attacks.


Does the right ever take any responsibility for their own hate?


G.</span>

Sev
01-10-2011, 08:58 AM
Hey Gayle you seem to forget that the Dempocrats were toting a national map with cross hairs on it for republicans as well.

We have a little thing called the first amendment. Either you support it or you dont.

Qtec
01-10-2011, 09:16 AM
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/images/jesse-kelly-giffords-m16-event.jpg

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>Get on Target</span> for Victory in November <span style='font-size: 17pt'><u>Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office Shoot a fully automatic M16</u> with Jesse Kelly </span></div></div>

Get on Target..Help remove.... Gabrielle Giffords....Shoot a fully automatic M16.


Q?

Gayle in MD
01-10-2011, 09:33 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/images/jesse-kelly-giffords-m16-event.jpg

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>Get on Target</span> for Victory in November <span style='font-size: 17pt'><u>Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office Shoot a fully automatic M16</u> with Jesse Kelly </span></div></div>

Get on Target..Help remove.... Gabrielle Giffords....Shoot a fully automatic M16.


Q?
</div></div>

OMG! I hadn't seen that one. Horrible!

Sev
01-10-2011, 09:41 AM
OMG! OMG!! OMG! OMG!!!!

In bad taste perhaps. But a threat?? OMG!!!!!

eg8r
01-10-2011, 09:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guns and killing rhetoric in the political venue has been comoing almost entirely from the right for years. Now, they want to deny it, and say it was coming from both sides.

Really? I didn't se it!</div></div>Maybe you should pay attention to all the news instead of what you cherry pick. Here is an example that should ring home...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Obama</div><div class="ubbcode-body">“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,”</div></div>He was ready to mow down any Rep that stood in his way. You know in the end that is exactly what he tried to do but it cost him in these last elections.

eg8r

eg8r
01-10-2011, 09:48 AM
Hey qtip, are you pointing out the fact that puctuation is missing?

eg8r

pooltchr
01-10-2011, 09:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Giffords warned in March of ‘consequences’ to Palin’s violent rhetoric </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"The thing is, the way that she has it depicted -- <span style='font-size: 17pt'>the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district -- when people do that, they've got to realize that there's consequences for that action," she said. </span> </div></div>




link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tTDiZZYCAs&feature=player_embedded)



Q </div></div>

So can we assume you are just as outraged over this comment from the Daily Kos?

... Who to primary? Well, I'd argue that we can narrow the <span style='font-size: 17pt'>target list</span> by looking at those Democrats who sold out the Constitution last week. I've bolded members of the Blue Dogs for added emphasis. ...

Giffords, Gabrielle (AZ-08) ...

Not all of these people will get or even deserve primaries, but this vote <span style='font-size: 17pt'>certainly puts a bulls eye </span>on their district. ..


Steve

eg8r
01-10-2011, 10:02 AM
You are aware the map symbol was not a cross hair but an actual map symbol used on the U.S. Geological Survey right? Maybe when Giffords called that a target she was the one who put that thought into people's minds.

Let's take a look at this map...
http://boortz.com/images/2011/01/dem%20targeting%20strategy_l.jpg
This is what was used by the Democractic Leadership Committee in 2004.

Here is another one...
http://boortz.com/images/2011/01/dccc%20map_o.jpg
This map was posted on the website of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee about a year ago. Are those survey markings?

Seems the Dems have a lot of practice putting targets on peoples heads yet you idiots never said a word.

Maybe one of gayle's buddies could quote this so gaylio can see the hypocrisy in her posts.

eg8r &lt;~~~thanks Boortz for keeping the images available

pooltchr
01-10-2011, 11:37 AM
Even if one of them did repost it for her, do you really think she would be honest enough to admit that her precious Dems could possibly be capable of doing the exact thing she is lambasting the Reps for doing?

Gayle is what she is. No amount of truth or facts will ever change that. She is just a fanatical follower and promoter of the radical leftist agenda.

Period!

Steve

I'm betting Q won't admit it either. They will both either try to spin it some other way, or just completely ignore it. Head buried in the sand is their best tactic in cases like this.

Sev
01-10-2011, 11:40 AM
Lets not forget the movie and the book about how to assassinate a president. President Bush.

Ahhh but that is considered art.

Sev
01-10-2011, 12:03 PM
For anybody who thinks that left is pure as the wind driven snow.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the...imer-2000-2010/ (http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/)

pooltchr
01-10-2011, 12:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For anybody who thinks that left is pure as the wind driven snow.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the...imer-2000-2010/ (http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/) </div></div>

They will bury their collective heads in the sand and pretend none of this ever happened.

And the ones around here are too chicken S**T to even address any of it.

Steve

sack316
01-10-2011, 12:27 PM
I would say they should use an X on the maps instead... but then I suppose people would show up to those districts and start digging the whole place up looking for treasure.

Sack

pooltchr
01-10-2011, 02:30 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For anybody who thinks that left is pure as the wind driven snow.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the...imer-2000-2010/ (http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/) </div></div>

Poor Gayle doesn't even have the intestinal fortitude to comment on this link.

Seems little Q is ducking the issue as well.

No surprise. As I said...Chicken S**T

Steve

cushioncrawler
01-10-2011, 04:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are aware the map symbol was not a cross hair but an actual map symbol used on the U.S. Geological Survey right? Maybe when Giffords called that a target she was the one who put that thought into people's minds.
Let's take a look at this map...
This is what was used by the Democractic Leadership Committee in 2004.
Here is another one...
This map was posted on the website of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee about a year ago. Are those survey markings?
Seems the Dems have a lot of practice putting targets on peoples heads yet you idiots never said a word.
Maybe one of gayle's buddies could quote this so gaylio can see the hypocrisy in her posts.
eg8r &lt;~~~thanks Boortz for keeping the images available</div></div>eg -- Thats bullkrap.
Palin's map put crosshairs on people -- inklooding each name.
The Dem maps u are talking about simply target states -- not people.
mac.

pooltchr
01-10-2011, 06:33 PM
Even when confronted with facts, it's so easy to deny it and just pass it off as bull crap.

Another head buried in the sand!
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Steve

Qtec
01-11-2011, 02:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are aware the map symbol was not a cross hair but an actual map symbol used on the U.S. Geological Survey right? </div></div>

link (http://egsc.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/booklets/symbols/)
I don't see it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Let's take a look at this map...
http://boortz.com/images/2011/01/dem%20targeting%20strategy_l.jpg

This is what was used by the Democractic Leadership Committee in 2004.

<span style="color: #990000"> "Pres. Bush won nine states with single digit margins. <span style='font-size: 17pt'>Those states</span> shoud be ripe targets for Democrats."

What is wrong with that?</span>


Here is another one...
http://boortz.com/images/2011/01/dccc%20map_o.jpg

This map was posted on the website of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee about a year ago. Are those survey markings? <span style="color: #990000">..and?</span>

Seems the Dems have a lot of practice putting targets on peoples heads yet you idiots never said a word.

Maybe one of gayle's buddies could quote this so gaylio can see the hypocrisy in her posts.

eg8r &lt;~~~thanks Boortz for keeping the images available </div></div>


Q


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">(ChattahBox)—Hate talker and GOP leader Rush Limbaugh, like many Republicans the day after healthcare reform has passed, are licking their wounds and vowing to continue their fight to destroy the Obama administration. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Whipping confused teapartiers into frenzied mobs, with lies about death panels and Socialism, was never really about reforming healthcare. It was about taking down the Obama presidency and ensuring that he suffered a defeat.</span> The GOP declared that healthcare reform would be Obama’s “Waterloo.” They came very close to defeating it. And the battle still has not been won, since the bill could unravel in the Senate, if the Republicans have their way. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Against this backdrop, hate-monger Rush Limbaugh took to the airways today with some of the most inflammatory, violent, incendiary and race-baiting hate speech, he has unleashed in recent memory. And that’s saying a lot.</span>

Limbaugh went on a rant about defeating Democrats in November, using violent laced and foul language, <span style='font-size: 14pt'>urging Republicans to defeat the liberal “bastards,” “wipe them out,” “hound” and “hassle” them:</span>

LIMBAUGH: “[T]hey won yesterday. They won because they held congress and the presidency and therein lies the lesson.<span style='font-size: 17pt'> We need to defeat these bastards. <u>We need to wipe them out. We need to chase them out of town.</u> [...] “They must my friends, be hounded out of office. Every single Democrat who voted for this needs to know, safe district or not, they are going to be exposed and hassled and chased from office.</span> We now have leftist radicals in charge of your healthcare decisions rather than doctors”

The enraged and unhinged Limbaugh then employed race-baiting rhetoric, painting Obama as a resentful, liberal minority member who does not believe in American exceptionalism and instead, views America through the eyes of a foreigner, as a “civil rights violation.” Limbaugh declared that healthcare reform has destroyed the country and Democratic Fidel Castro-loving radicals under Obama, now control the country:

LIMBAUGH: “He has succeeded. The happiness that these people are feeling should sicken every one of us, <span style='font-size: 20pt'>because the happinesses they are feeling is the happiness derived from the destruction of America as founded. There are people in responsible positions of power in our government today, <u>who have a deep resentment for this country,</u> who have been raised, who have been educated to believe that this country is immoral, unjust.” [...] “They look at this country as one big criminal act — One Big civil rights human rights violation. Don’t doubt me. That is how Obama has been raised to look at this country. And he believes it, and he’s put a lot of people in unaccountable positions in his administration and you know who some of them are…” “The Democrat Party has been co-opted and is now led by a far leftist faction who admire and envy people like Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.”
</span>
And if that wasn’t enough incendiary rhetoric for one afternoon, Limbaugh decided to falsely and offensively claim that Obama promotes infanticide. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>“We have the most pro-abortion president in the history of the country. This is a guy who believes in infanticide,</span> bellowed Limbaugh. </div></div>

LWW
01-11-2011, 05:21 AM
So telling the truth is what caused this?

Is that really what you want your position to be?

By the way ... do you have any data to show he ever listened to RL?

What's that?

You don't?

You never question the spoon?

We already knew that.

LWW

LWW
01-11-2011, 05:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are aware the map symbol was not a cross hair but an actual map symbol used on the U.S. Geological Survey right? </div></div>

link (http://egsc.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/booklets/symbols/)
I don't see it. </div></div>

Only because you refuse to see it.

These are surveyor symbols:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-910.png

This is a scope's crosshairs:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-132.png

This is the infamous Palin map:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-126.png

Which to someone not spoonfed their "OPINION" and who wishes to use objective reality, clearly does not use any weaponry iconography whatsoever. Instead it shows that the political map has been "SURVEYED" ... but, I understand the party doesn't want you to know this.

This is a bullseye target, which is used for practicing the use of weapons such as arrows and bullets:

http://bakedziti.com/bullseye.gif

This is the democrooks map which the party doesn't want you to be aware of:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-14-19-17-501.png

This is clearly using at the very least an innuendo of an arrow/bullet being laid upon the "TARGET" shown.

This is Snoopy crashing and burning yet again:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/lww/ONLINE%20ARGUMENTS/Snoopy.jpg

Does any of this mean the shooter was influenced by either of the maps? Certainly not ... in fact it's unlikely he ever saw either of them.

Does it mean that the moonbat crazy left is acting in their usual uber hypocritical fashion?

A thinking person can IMHO come to no other conclusion.

Does it mean that Snoopy will now have to gouge out his own eyes after seeing non party approved data?

I hope not ...

LWW

Gayle in MD
01-11-2011, 08:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are aware the map symbol was not a cross hair but an actual map symbol used on the U.S. Geological Survey right? </div></div>

link (http://egsc.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/booklets/symbols/)
I don't see it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Let's take a look at this map...
http://boortz.com/images/2011/01/dem%20targeting%20strategy_l.jpg

This is what was used by the Democractic Leadership Committee in 2004.

<span style="color: #990000"> "Pres. Bush won nine states with single digit margins. <span style='font-size: 17pt'>Those states</span> shoud be ripe targets for Democrats."

What is wrong with that?</span>


Here is another one...
http://boortz.com/images/2011/01/dccc%20map_o.jpg

This map was posted on the website of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee about a year ago. Are those survey markings? <span style="color: #990000">..and?</span>

Seems the Dems have a lot of practice putting targets on peoples heads yet you idiots never said a word.

Maybe one of gayle's buddies could quote this so gaylio can see the hypocrisy in her posts.

eg8r &lt;~~~thanks Boortz for keeping the images available </div></div>


Q


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">(ChattahBox)—Hate talker and GOP leader Rush Limbaugh, like many Republicans the day after healthcare reform has passed, are licking their wounds and vowing to continue their fight to destroy the Obama administration. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Whipping confused teapartiers into frenzied mobs, with lies about death panels and Socialism, was never really about reforming healthcare. It was about taking down the Obama presidency and ensuring that he suffered a defeat.</span> The GOP declared that healthcare reform would be Obama’s “Waterloo.” They came very close to defeating it. And the battle still has not been won, since the bill could unravel in the Senate, if the Republicans have their way. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Against this backdrop, hate-monger Rush Limbaugh took to the airways today with some of the most inflammatory, violent, incendiary and race-baiting hate speech, he has unleashed in recent memory. And that’s saying a lot.</span>

Limbaugh went on a rant about defeating Democrats in November, using violent laced and foul language, <span style='font-size: 14pt'>urging Republicans to defeat the liberal “bastards,” “wipe them out,” “hound” and “hassle” them:</span>

LIMBAUGH: “[T]hey won yesterday. They won because they held congress and the presidency and therein lies the lesson.<span style='font-size: 17pt'> We need to defeat these bastards. <u>We need to wipe them out. We need to chase them out of town.</u> [...] “They must my friends, be hounded out of office. Every single Democrat who voted for this needs to know, safe district or not, they are going to be exposed and hassled and chased from office.</span> We now have leftist radicals in charge of your healthcare decisions rather than doctors”

The enraged and unhinged Limbaugh then employed race-baiting rhetoric, painting Obama as a resentful, liberal minority member who does not believe in American exceptionalism and instead, views America through the eyes of a foreigner, as a “civil rights violation.” Limbaugh declared that healthcare reform has destroyed the country and Democratic Fidel Castro-loving radicals under Obama, now control the country:

LIMBAUGH: “He has succeeded. The happiness that these people are feeling should sicken every one of us, <span style='font-size: 20pt'>because the happinesses they are feeling is the happiness derived from the destruction of America as founded. There are people in responsible positions of power in our government today, <u>who have a deep resentment for this country,</u> who have been raised, who have been educated to believe that this country is immoral, unjust.” [...] “They look at this country as one big criminal act — One Big civil rights human rights violation. Don’t doubt me. That is how Obama has been raised to look at this country. And he believes it, and he’s put a lot of people in unaccountable positions in his administration and you know who some of them are…” “The Democrat Party has been co-opted and is now led by a far leftist faction who admire and envy people like Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.”
</span>
And if that wasn’t enough incendiary rhetoric for one afternoon, Limbaugh decided to falsely and offensively claim that Obama promotes infanticide. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>“We have the most pro-abortion president in the history of the country. This is a guy who believes in infanticide,</span> bellowed Limbaugh. </div></div>

There is no shortage of Sicko RW pundits, that's for sure.

The Republican Party should be hiding in shame for their efforts and stated intentions to achieve a crippled Government.

They are truly repulsive.
</div></div>

Sev
01-11-2011, 08:53 AM
Better to cripple the government that allow the government cripple the country.

pooltchr
01-11-2011, 08:56 AM
Can we assume that since you reposted this, that you are also falling into line and agreeing with the lies being spread by the left?


I thought so!

Steve

eg8r
01-11-2011, 09:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't see it.
</div></div>I believe it was on the second page halfway down on the right. Plain as day.

The rest of your post had nothing to do with the maps so I am ignoring it.

eg8r

cushioncrawler
01-11-2011, 03:27 PM
Palin's map put crosshairs on people -- inklooding each name.
The Dem maps u are talking about simply target states -- not people.
mac.

LWW
01-11-2011, 03:34 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Palin's map put crosshairs on people -- inklooding each name.
The Dem maps u are talking about simply target states -- not people.
mac.
</div></div>

Wrong, and wrong ... as has been shown ad infinitum.

The "CROSSHAIRS" were survey symbols ... the targets were targets as used for weapons practice.

Anyone who doesn't know this by know is either willingly clueless or hopelessly uneducable.

Beyond that ... until somebody shows that the nutjob ever even saw the map, it's just finger pointing by the moonbat crazy leftist media.

CC ... we don't agree on a lot, but you are far too smart to be played like this.

Gee, aitch, stench, woofie, and snoopy I've come to expect it from.

LWW

LWW
01-11-2011, 03:36 PM
Bumped for the willfully blind.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are aware the map symbol was not a cross hair but an actual map symbol used on the U.S. Geological Survey right? </div></div>

link (http://egsc.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/booklets/symbols/)
I don't see it. </div></div>

Only because you refuse to see it.

These are surveyor symbols:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-910.png

This is a scope's crosshairs:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-132.png

This is the infamous Palin map:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-126.png

Which to someone not spoonfed their "OPINION" and who wishes to use objective reality, clearly does not use any weaponry iconography whatsoever. Instead it shows that the political map has been "SURVEYED" ... but, I understand the party doesn't want you to know this.

This is a bullseye target, which is used for practicing the use of weapons such as arrows and bullets:

http://bakedziti.com/bullseye.gif

This is the democrooks map which the party doesn't want you to be aware of:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-14-19-17-501.png

This is clearly using at the very least an innuendo of an arrow/bullet being laid upon the "TARGET" shown.

This is Snoopy crashing and burning yet again:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/lww/ONLINE%20ARGUMENTS/Snoopy.jpg

Does any of this mean the shooter was influenced by either of the maps? Certainly not ... in fact it's unlikely he ever saw either of them.

Does it mean that the moonbat crazy left is acting in their usual uber hypocritical fashion?

A thinking person can IMHO come to no other conclusion.

Does it mean that Snoopy will now have to gouge out his own eyes after seeing non party approved data?

I hope not ...

LWW
</div></div>

LWW

Sev
01-12-2011, 07:49 AM
Looks like they have ditched all talk of this on the state run media.

LWW
01-12-2011, 08:48 AM
That's what cowards do.

LWW

eg8r
01-12-2011, 08:58 AM
Palin's maps were not using cross hairs at all. The Dem maps were using actual targets.

eg8r

LWW
01-12-2011, 09:40 AM
Bumped again.

Gee ... Snoopy ... for once ... just <u><span style='font-family: Arial Black'><span style='font-size: 26pt'>ONCE</span></span></u> ... do the right thing.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bumped for the willfully blind.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are aware the map symbol was not a cross hair but an actual map symbol used on the U.S. Geological Survey right? </div></div>

link (http://egsc.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/booklets/symbols/)
I don't see it. </div></div>

Only because you refuse to see it.

These are surveyor symbols:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-910.png

This is a scope's crosshairs:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-132.png

This is the infamous Palin map:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-126.png

Which to someone not spoonfed their "OPINION" and who wishes to use objective reality, clearly does not use any weaponry iconography whatsoever. Instead it shows that the political map has been "SURVEYED" ... but, I understand the party doesn't want you to know this.

This is a bullseye target, which is used for practicing the use of weapons such as arrows and bullets:

http://bakedziti.com/bullseye.gif

This is the democrooks map which the party doesn't want you to be aware of:

http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-14-19-17-501.png

This is clearly using at the very least an innuendo of an arrow/bullet being laid upon the "TARGET" shown.

This is Snoopy crashing and burning yet again:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/lww/ONLINE%20ARGUMENTS/Snoopy.jpg

Does any of this mean the shooter was influenced by either of the maps? Certainly not ... in fact it's unlikely he ever saw either of them.

Does it mean that the moonbat crazy left is acting in their usual uber hypocritical fashion?

A thinking person can IMHO come to no other conclusion.

Does it mean that Snoopy will now have to gouge out his own eyes after seeing non party approved data?

I hope not ...

LWW
</div></div>

LWW </div></div>

Gayle in MD
01-12-2011, 10:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Palin's map put crosshairs on people -- inklooding each name.
The Dem maps u are talking about simply target states -- not people.
mac.
</div></div>

Exactly, and it was pervasively, and consistantly, all coming from the right, the gun toting radical RW, who were also joining militias, spewing non stop lies and slander about the President's citizenship, holding up disgusting racist signs, spitting on black Democratic representatives on the capitalo steps, and carrying guns, strapped to their bodies, to Political events.

The evidence is all on film, grown men, stomping on the head of a defenseless woman at REPUBLICAN EVENTS!

Organized vandalism at DEMOCRATICS state headquarters, timed by a RW radical and fomented from his own blog.

The right can drop the feigned outrage with claims of a higer moralo ground.

Palin, for the rest of her life, will be connected to that one and EVER target map, aiming rifle cross hairs, at PEOPLE, and advising her followers to "RELOAD" and then following that us with her usual gross denial, and refusal to take responsibility for her repulsive behavior.

The exact same thing could be said of the Repuboloican Leadership, who failed miserably, to take a stand against the radical, threatening behavior of their own followers, cheering them on, instead of takeing a stand against what nationalo security experts had already identified as dangerous, threatening and unprecedented.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"We know that silence equals consent when atrocities are committed
against innocent men, women and children. We know that indifference
equals complicity when bigotry, hatred and intolerance are allowed to
take root. And we know that education and hope are the most effective
ways to combat ignorance and despair." ~ Gabrielle Giffords
</div></div>

Sara Palin is despicable, and today, she only proved that fact, further with her attempts to blame and us her phony moral high ground denials, with no apologies, as are the Republican Leaders, who failed to assuage the growing threats, and instead feigned outrage when they were referenced in advance of this tragedy, by experts.

Denial will not fly this time.

G.

Sev
01-12-2011, 10:30 AM
Its getting weaker and weaker.

LWW
01-12-2011, 10:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">E<span style='font-size: 20pt'>xactly, and it was pervasively, and consistantly, all coming from the right, the gun toting radical RW, who were also joining militias, spewing non stop lies and slander about the President's citizenship, holding up disgusting racist signs, spitting on black Democratic representatives on the capitalo steps, and carrying guns, strapped to their bodies, to Political events.</span>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>The evidence is all on film, grown men, stomping on the head of a defenseless woman at REPUBLICAN EVENTS!

Organized vandalism at DEMOCRATICS state headquarters, timed by a RW radical and fomented from his own blog.</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>The right can drop the feigned outrage with claims of a higer moralo ground.

Palin, for the rest of her life, will be connected to that one and EVER target map, aiming rifle cross hairs, at PEOPLE, and advising her followers to "RELOAD" and then following that us with her usual gross denial, and refusal to take responsibility for her repulsive behavior.</span>

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>The exact same thing could be said of the Repuboloican Leadership, who failed miserably, to take a stand against the radical, threatening behavior of their own followers, cheering them on, instead of takeing a stand against what nationalo security experts had already identified as dangerous, threatening and unprecedented.</span>

<span style='font-size: 8pt'>Sara Palin is despicable, and today, she only proved that fact, further with her attempts to blame and us her phony moral high ground denials, with no apologies, as are the Republican Leaders, who failed to assuage the growing threats, and instead feigned outrage when they were referenced in advance of this tragedy, by experts.

Denial will not fly this time.

G.</span>

</div></div>

Fading away ...

LWW

pooltchr
01-12-2011, 11:58 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its getting weaker and weaker. </div></div>

How can it get any weaker? She has nothing to begin with!

Steve

Sev
01-12-2011, 05:50 PM
Well shes not quite limp as of yet.

LWW
01-13-2011, 04:23 AM
The consequences of this thread was that the spoon lickers were exposed again.

LWW

Qtec
01-13-2011, 04:31 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Palin's maps were not using cross hairs at all.

eg8r </div></div>

Live in denial if you want.

Q

LWW
01-13-2011, 04:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Live in denial if you want.

Q

</div></div>

That should be your new sig line ... you set a fine example of that lifestyle in action.

BRAVO!

LWW

Sev
01-13-2011, 07:41 AM
This dog wont hunt Q.

pooltchr
01-13-2011, 10:31 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Palin's maps were not using cross hairs at all.

eg8r </div></div>

Live in denial if you want.

Q

</div></div>

The evidence is clear, yet you refuse to admit it. How can you possibly pretend that you don't see it?
You bought into a lie, it has been exposed. Admit you were mistaken and move on. The more you deny the truth, the more foolish you look.

Steve

Sev
01-13-2011, 12:06 PM
Depend on you your definition of "is" is.