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Sev
01-13-2011, 12:24 PM
So much for civility after a tragedy. Looks like the left wingers are targeting Palin and have her in their sites for extermination.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blood...ry?id=12601352

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Death Threats Against Sarah Palin at 'Unprecedented Level,' Aides Say</span>
Palin's Video Prompts Debate Over 'Blood Libel;' Palin's Office Talking to Security



An aide close to Sarah Palin says death threats and security threats have increased to an unprecedented level since the shooting in Arizona, and the former Alaska governor's team has been talking to security professionals.

Since the shooting in Tucson, Palin has taken much heat for her "crosshairs" map that targeted 20 congressional Democrats in the 2010 mid-term election, including that of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was the main target of Saturday's attack.

Friends say Palin, a possible 2012 contender, was galled as suggestions of her role in the tragedy have swirled.

Palin responded in detail today to the attacks leveled against her, but while her intentions may have been to shift the blame away from herself, she instead put her in the hot seat again.

"Journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn," she said in an early morning Facebook post today.

The term "blood libel" has been used historically to falsely accuse Jews of using Christian children's blood to prepare their Passover matzoh. The myth is said to have begun in Europe as early as the 12th century, perpetuated by the death of a small boy in England in 1144.

It's a term that Jews say has been used to incite anti-Semitism and justify violence against them for centuries.

Palin's use of the word has triggered some deep emotions, even among those who believe Palin has been a target of unfair criticism since the Tucson shooting.

The Jewish Fund for Justice assailed Palin for abusing a tragic episode in Jewish history.

"We are deeply disturbed" by her commentary, president Simon Greer said in a statement today. "Unless someone has been accusing Ms. Palin of killing Christian babies and making matzoh from their blood, her use of the term is totally out of line."

The National Jewish Democratic Council called the video a step in the wrong direction.

"This is of course a particularly heinous term for American Jews, given that the repeated fiction of blood libels are directly responsible for the murder of so many Jews across centuries -- and given that blood libels are so directly intertwined with deeply ingrained anti-Semitism around the globe, even today," it said in a statement.

"The last thing the country needs now is for the rhetoric in the wake of this tragedy to return to where it was before," liberal group J Street said in a statement. "We hope that Governor Palin will recognize, when it is brought to her attention, that the term 'blood libel' brings back painful echoes of a very dark time in our communal history when Jews were falsely accused of committing heinous deeds."

But not all Jews are offended by the term. Liberal political commentator and Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz pointed out that the term has been used frequently as a metaphor and in a broader context.

"The term 'blood libel' has taken on a broad metaphorical meaning in public discourse," he said in a statement to biggovernment.com. "I myself have used it to describe false accusations against the State of Israel by the Goldstone Report. There is nothing improper and certainly nothing anti-Semitic in Sarah Palin using the term to characterize what she reasonably believes are false accusations that her words or images may have caused a mentally disturbed individual to kill and maim."
When asked by ABC News why the former Alaska governor chose the term "blood libel," a Palin aide responded with Dershowitz's comments and a list compiled by the National Review of recent examples of the use of "blood libel" in the media.

Conservative writer Glenn Reynolds first used the term Monday in a Wall Street Journal op-ed to defend Palin. "So as the usual talking heads begin their 'have you no decency?' routine aimed at talk radio and Republican politicians, perhaps we should turn the question around," Reynolds wrote. "Where is the decency in blood libel?"

Politicians on both sides of the political aisle have been, for the most part, mum on the issue, although Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., did imply today that Palin likely didn't understand the implications of using such a heavy-handed term.

"Intellectually, she seems not to be able to understand what's going on here," Clyburn said in a radio interview.

ABC News' Mary Bruce contributed to the report.

pooltchr
01-13-2011, 12:41 PM
This can't possibly be true. We all know that all violence and threats of violence comes entirely from the radical RW and TP types. The anti-Palin crowd would never do anything like this!

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Steve

Sev
01-13-2011, 12:47 PM
It must be a right wing conspiracy.
Conservatives are calling in death threats to pin the blame on liberals.

Soflasnapper
01-16-2011, 08:36 PM
This proves Sarah's point against Sarah.

In her speech, she said rhetoric and overheated atmospherics can NEVER cause these kinds of things, and that it was ridiculous and obscene to say so.

Then she turned around in a few sentences to say the 'blood libel' they put on her (false accusation of culpability in a murder) WOULD cause the very hate and violence they claim to be against.

WHICH IS IT, Ms. Palin?

Clearly, given this reported upsurge in the death threat level, she was RIGHT THE SECOND TIME (which unfortunately screws up her alibi and outraged denials).

And, as a matter of reciprocity, what goes around comes around, chickens coming home to roost, and some other cliches, also, too, the Secret Service said there was a 400% increase to an unprecedented level of death threats to Obama, which coincided with Ms. Palin's statement that O 'palled around with terrorists,' and was unAmerican (which prompted rally attendees to shout out 'kill him!'). I don't care for McCain, but at least he didn't go there, and Ms. Palin had spoken this way without the campaign's go-ahead. She was promptly and properly reined in by the campaign, and told to pipe down on this crap.

I am happy to see Ms. Palin NOW understands the falsity of her alibi, and congratulate her for making what must have been hard for her-- a complete reversal of her position-- even before she had finished her speech.

LWW
01-17-2011, 12:56 AM
Are you honestly comparing the rhetoric used by Palin with the poisonous bile spewed by the moonbat crazy left against her?

Please, tell me you aren't that far gone.

LWW

Qtec
01-17-2011, 05:37 AM
Why do you always change the subject?

I know.

Q........we all do.

Qtec
01-17-2011, 05:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> This proves Sarah's point against Sarah.

In her speech, she said rhetoric and overheated atmospherics can NEVER cause these kinds of things, and that it was ridiculous and obscene to say so.

<u>Then she turned around in a few sentences to say the 'blood libel' they put on her (false accusation of culpability in a murder) WOULD cause the very hate and violence they claim to be against.</u>

WHICH IS IT, Ms. Palin?</div></div>


Well put. LOL

LLW won't get it. If he does get it he will ignore it. If he can't ignore it he will deny it. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Looks like he has gone to stage 6- change the subject by throwing up a strawman.

Good luck.

Q

LWW
01-17-2011, 06:17 AM
Actually your buddy changed the topic and threw out a strawman ... I merely pointed it out.

If you weren't spoon fed every thought you would realize this.

LWW

Qtec
01-17-2011, 07:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Palin defended herself by saying, "Especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible."

The term "blood libel" was historically used as an excuse to persecute Jews.

<u>"Here she is saying, when you talk about blood libel, that is the definition political discourse, a manufactured lie causing violence," noted Liasson. "In this case she paints herself as the potential victim."</u>

"<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Here she is agreeing with the left that political discourse can cause violence.</span>"

Fox News pundit Brit Hume attempted to disagree but Liasson stood her ground.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"Yes, that's exactly what blood libel is. <span style="color: #990000">You make up a lie about someone, you make a false accusation that causes violence against Jews, for instance,</span>" she said. "All I'm saying is that it struck the wrong tone on a whole lot of levels."</span> </div></div>

Obama hates white people, he's coming to get your guns and enslave you because he is a Commie Islamo-Fascist Muslim with links to terrorists. He wants to destroy America. He wasn't even born in the USA!......etc......etc........

Obama makes a great speech calling for unity and civility in Political discourse........ and Fox calls it a Pep rally!




Socialist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJDZxzsOB1Y&feature=player_embedded)

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Stretch
01-17-2011, 09:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Palin defended herself by saying, "Especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible."

The term "blood libel" was historically used as an excuse to persecute Jews.

<u>"Here she is saying, when you talk about blood libel, that is the definition political discourse, a manufactured lie causing violence," noted Liasson. "In this case she paints herself as the potential victim."</u>

"<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Here she is agreeing with the left that political discourse can cause violence.</span>"

Fox News pundit Brit Hume attempted to disagree but Liasson stood her ground.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"Yes, that's exactly what blood libel is. <span style="color: #990000">You make up a lie about someone, you make a false accusation that causes violence against Jews, for instance,</span>" she said. "All I'm saying is that it struck the wrong tone on a whole lot of levels."</span> </div></div>

Obama hates white people, he's coming to get your guns and enslave you because he is a Commie Islamo-Fascist Muslim with links to terrorists. He wants to destroy America. He wasn't even born in the USA!......etc......etc........

Obama makes a great speech calling for unity and civility in Political discourse........ and Fox calls it a Pep rally!




Socialist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJDZxzsOB1Y&feature=player_embedded)

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Q, They are confusing it with what they do again. You simply can't expect them to understand the difference. St.

Sev
01-17-2011, 09:53 AM
This is why such addresses should be given in the oval office and not have the president presiding over large events. The message gets lost.

Soflasnapper
01-17-2011, 12:35 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you honestly comparing the rhetoric used by Palin with the poisonous bile spewed by the moonbat crazy left against her?

Please, tell me you aren't that far gone.

LWW </div></div>

Well, of course, I didn't.

I was pointing out that this report you cite for the increase in death threats to Ms. Palin resulting from rhetorical attacks shows that rhetorical attacks (whether of a differing degree or kind or not-- I didn't address the differences or similarities at all) can indeed occasion increased threats of violence and possibly violence itself.

However, it should be noted that Ms. Palin herself put out quite a blood libel of her own, when she stated that she and her Down Syndrome infant would have their very lives judged in the balance (and possibly found unworthy on some economic metric, and thus sentenced to DEATH), by the (non-existent) 'death panels' (i.e., your own personal physician), if Medicare were newly allowed to pay for advanced directive counseling for its elderly beneficiaries.

Saying without any basis that SHE and her INFANT could literally lose their lives (because Medicare patients could have paid-for advanced directive counseling by their own chosen doctor) was worse than simply idiotic. It made out Obama to be a wannabe mass killer of women and children, stated as fact from the oracle from Wasilla believed by millions to speak the plain truth.

In my view, that was despicable, dangerous, harmful and inciteful rhetoric, fairly close to the top of the scale on those measures. ESPECIALLY since even Ms. Palin knows that encouraging advance directives is so important that she as governor sponsored and promoted a state initiative to set aside a day to do just that task in the public interest.

Sev
01-18-2011, 06:32 AM
I seem to remember the talk in Vietnam about acceptable losses.
I have no doubt that if the government is not reigned in they will at some point use that same outlook on the general population. Its easy when people are nothing more than a number in the eyes of the bean counters.