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Gayle in MD
01-20-2011, 10:56 AM
A very Appropriate, comparison, to an exact, matching style of propaganda use, used by the Nazi's.

I wonder if he has read John Dean's, very well documented book about this very subject, and based on The United States own Studies by the CIA, after the rise of Nazi powerr, and after the end of the war, in an effort to understand how the public in Germany, could have been so thoroughly deceived, and manipulated, and in which he documents the tactics, uses exact comparisons, to the statements and tactics used by the Bush Administration.

Democratic, Steve Cohen, of course, did NOT compare Republicans, to Nazi's, only their propaganda tactics, of repeating a lie, over and over, until SOME people, without critical thinking skills, believe it, sort of like the Birther BS, the Death panel BS, the WMD BS, The "Only a Secretary" BS...gee, we could write a book on their lies, but wait, Hundreds of respected authors have already done that!

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Soflasnapper
01-20-2011, 11:31 AM
Not familiar with 'only a secretary' bs; what is that, briefly?

Back in the '50s, the US had great success using psychological operations (psyops)to topple leaders of regimes we opposed without the use of the military. I think it was Arbenz of Guatemala who fled the capital and quit upon US-sponsored phony radio broadcasts of supposed rebel army advances to just outside the capital (which rebel army didn't even exist). We had a domestic example of mass hysteria caused by Orson Welles' radio adaptation of HG Well's (hmm, never considered the similarity of names!) 'War of the Worlds.'

Such a powerful tool was heavily studied and perfected in the field over decades, and then re-directed contrary to federal law prohibitions against the US population itself. Several times the effort went overt, with the Pentagon specifically funding an open, official program designed to 'educate' (covertly influence) the people toward their preferred military policies. When they were that blatant, all these programs were opposed and officially ended, but as Rumsfeld said when he was forced to cancel his 'Total Information Awareness' program doing this, we'll shut THIS one down, and still do it in other ways.

Of interest, Glenn Beck takes Orson Welles as a key influence, even naming his company 'Mercury Arts' as an homage to Welles' 'Mercury Radio' (on which TWOTW was broadcast).

During the early part of this current Iraq war, CNN allowed a team of Army psyops guys into their war coverage team, working their angles into the coverage.

pooltchr
01-20-2011, 12:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
their propaganda tactics, of repeating a lie, over and over, until SOME people, without critical thinking skills, believe it,

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You mean like the way you do on this forum ad nausium????

Steve

Gayle in MD
01-20-2011, 12:39 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not familiar with 'only a secretary' bs; what is that, briefly?

Back in the '50s, the US had great success using psychological operations (psyops)to topple leaders of regimes we opposed without the use of the military. I think it was Arbenz of Guatemala who fled the capital and quit upon US-sponsored phony radio broadcasts of supposed rebel army advances to just outside the capital (which rebel army didn't even exist). We had a domestic example of mass hysteria caused by Orson Welles' radio adaptation of HG Well's (hmm, never considered the similarity of names!) 'War of the Worlds.'

Such a powerful tool was heavily studied and perfected in the field over decades, and then re-directed contrary to federal law prohibitions against the US population itself. Several times the effort went overt, with the Pentagon specifically funding an open, official program designed to 'educate' (covertly influence) the people toward their preferred military policies. When they were that blatant, all these programs were opposed and officially ended, but as Rumsfeld said when he was forced to cancel his 'Total Information Awareness' program doing this, we'll shut THIS one down, and still do it in other ways.

Of interest, Glenn Beck takes Orson Welles as a key influence, even naming his company 'Mercury Arts' as an homage to Welles' 'Mercury Radio' (on which TWOTW was broadcast).

During the early part of this current Iraq war, CNN allowed a team of Army psyops guys into their war coverage team, working their angles into the coverage. </div></div>

The "Just a secretary" reference is regarding the propaganda which was used by the Bush Administration, to discredit Valarie Plame, and her husband, former Ambassador, Joe Wilson, after Joe Wilson wrote the editorial which exposed the Administration's lies, about Yellow Cake, and Saddam, in the run up to their Illegal War in Iraq.

The righties on here continue to claim that Ms.Plame was "Just a Secretary".... another lie, promoted by the Administration, to muddy up the waters.

Of Course, it was proven, during MS.Plame's sworn testimony, before the Senate Investigation Committee, that she was, in fact, a "Secret" CIA, "NOC" Agent, and Specialist on WMD.

The Director of the CIA sent a letter, on the day of her testimony, read by the Committee Chairman, confirming that her status was in fact, a "Secret" CIA "NOC" Agent, WMD specialist.

The testimony, and letter, also confirmed, that she was not the person who made the decision to send her husband, former Ambassador, Joe Wilson, to Niger, to investigate the Administration's false claims, that there had been recent attempts by Saddam, to acquire Yellow Cake, which the Administration had spread around through their Rw Press, but, in fact, her boss was the person who made the decision, to send Mr. Wilson, to Niger.

G.

eg8r
01-20-2011, 01:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not familiar with 'only a secretary' bs; what is that, briefly?
</div></div>That is the game where I continue a storyline along as long as gayle continues to spew her mistruths.

eg8r

Sev
01-20-2011, 06:49 PM
And she swoops in on her broom.

sack316
01-20-2011, 11:30 PM
Stewart called this one out just right tonight

Sack

Sev
01-21-2011, 07:19 AM
Missed it.

sack316
01-21-2011, 12:25 PM
It's online now:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-january-20-2011/word-warcraft

Sack

Sev
01-21-2011, 05:20 PM
Yup that was spot on and funny.

Qtec
01-22-2011, 02:23 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Megyn Kelly pushed back against a guest's assertion that Fox News commentators make regular references to Nazis on the air, telling him it was "just not true."

Kelly and her guest, former Clinton adviser Richard Socarides, were discussing Rep. Steve Cohen's comparison of the GOP to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels during a debate on health care. Socarides said he disagreed with Cohen's comparison, but that Fox News had things to answer for as well.

"Every night on the very network that we're on right now, <u>the leading commentators on this network use this very language,</u>" he said.

"<u>That's just not true, Richard," Kelly said.</u> "...I don't if you sit and watch our programming every night, but I watch it every day and you're wrong."</div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Progressive tactics are Nazi tactics," Beck said. "Nazi tactics are progressive tactics." </div></div>

watch (http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201101200041)

link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/21/megyn-kelly-fox-news-nazis_n_812061.html)

Q

LWW
01-22-2011, 04:54 AM
So your "PROOF" is Beck stating that the progressives "AREN'T USING NAZI TACTICS" ... how surprising was that?

Answer ... not at all.

BTW ... what he actually said is that the Nazis used the tactics invented by the progressives and expanded it from discrediting your political opponents with lies and intimidation to putting a bullet in their head.

That claim is factual.

LWW

Sev
01-22-2011, 09:45 AM
Perhaps Q is a denier???