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Qtec
01-22-2011, 06:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Bachmann has never received anything better than a rating of “false” from the Pulitzer Prize-winnning fact-checking website PolitiFact — <span style='font-size: 20pt'>“We have checked her 13 times, and seven of her claims to be false and six have been found to be ridiculously false,”</span> PolitiFact editor Bill Adair said — and she won’t break the truth barrier with this statement. </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 17pt'>Rep. Michele Bachmann Falsely Claims Americans ‘Overwhelmingly’ Want Health Care Reform Repealed</span>

In an interview with Newsmax TV’s Ashley Martella yesterday, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) claimed that President Obama’s health reform law — which she called the “crown jewel of socialism” — is unpopular with voters, and that they want it repealed. “The American people have said overwhelmingly that they want this bill repealed,” she said. “As a matter of fact, Ashley, the more people learn about what’s in Obamacare, and when they see the devastating impact of it, the more they dislike this bill and want it gone,” she added. Watch it: </div></div>


The truth?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">An AP poll released Sunday revealed that <u>only one-in-four</u> Americans — just 26 percent — want the health law repealed. An ABC/Wall Street Journal poll released this week found that “just 18 percent favor repealing it entirely.” And a New York Times/CBS poll released today found that just 20 percent of Americans want to fully repeal the health reform law. And as the Washington Post’s Greg Sargent notes, even those numbers may be inflated: </div></div>

Repeat the lie enough.......

Q

llotter
01-22-2011, 07:45 AM
Americans overwhelmingly favor following the Constitution therefore, they overwhelmingly favor repealing Moroncare.

LWW
01-22-2011, 07:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Repeat the lie enough.......

Q </div></div>

You would know Herr Qoebbels.

Meanwhile, back where the air is thick, I decided to check with the pollster who has a long history being most accurate:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Monday, January 17, 2011

Support for repeal of the national health care law passed last year remains steady, as most voters continue to believe the law will increase the federal budget deficit.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that <span style='font-size: 11pt'>55% of Likely Voters favor repeal of the health care law, while 40% oppose repeal.</span> ...

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>Sixty percent (60%) of voters say the legislation will likely increase the federal deficit, while just 17% say it will reduce the deficit.</span> Another 13% believe the law will have no impact on the deficit. ...

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>Fifty-eight percent (58%) expect the cost of health care to go up under the new plan, which has also remained steady since the law's passage. Only 13% expect the cost of care to decrease under the plan</span> while 22% say health care costs will remain about the same as they are now. ...

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>When it comes to quality of care, 50% say it will get worse under the new plan. That number has also shifted little since the plan's passage. Twenty-one percent (21%) say the quality of care will get better</span>, while 24% say it will remain about the same.

The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on January 15-16, 2011 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.</div></div>

OH DEAR! (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law)

Let's review:

A - 53% of votes were cast following a full court press from MSNBC/NBC to elect dear leader plus a full and total pass on any vetting by the MSM ... including something as basic as verifying eligibility for office ... and the far left declares it an overwhelming landslide.

B - 55% of likely voters oppose the centerpiece of dear leader's regime ... in spite of a full court press from MSNBC/NBC to deceive the public plus a full and total pass on any vetting of the program by the MSM ... even though dear leader actually opposed OBAMACARE when it was HILLARYCARE, and the far left goes into ostrich mode.

AMAZING ... and pathetic, and what I have come to expect.

LWW

Sev
01-22-2011, 09:53 AM
Never let the facts get in the way of the propaganda.

Gayle in MD
01-22-2011, 11:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Bachmann has never received anything better than a rating of “false” from the Pulitzer Prize-winnning fact-checking website PolitiFact — <span style='font-size: 20pt'>“We have checked her 13 times, and seven of her claims to be false and six have been found to be ridiculously false,”</span> PolitiFact editor Bill Adair said — and she won’t break the truth barrier with this statement. </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 17pt'>Rep. Michele Bachmann Falsely Claims Americans ‘Overwhelmingly’ Want Health Care Reform Repealed</span>

In an interview with Newsmax TV’s Ashley Martella yesterday, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) claimed that President Obama’s health reform law — which she called the “crown jewel of socialism” — is unpopular with voters, and that they want it repealed. “The American people have said overwhelmingly that they want this bill repealed,” she said. “As a matter of fact, Ashley, the more people learn about what’s in Obamacare, and when they see the devastating impact of it, the more they dislike this bill and want it gone,” she added. Watch it: </div></div>


The truth?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">An AP poll released Sunday revealed that <u>only one-in-four</u> Americans — just 26 percent — want the health law repealed. An ABC/Wall Street Journal poll released this week found that “just 18 percent favor repealing it entirely.” And a New York Times/CBS poll released today found that just 20 percent of Americans want to fully repeal the health reform law. And as the Washington Post’s Greg Sargent notes, even those numbers may be inflated: </div></div>

Repeat the lie enough.......

Q </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Repeat the lie enough.......

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Yep, just as the Democratic representative stated, same exact tactics as were used in Germany. I'm very glad that he refused to aplogize for stating the truth.

John Dean's, very well documented book, Conservatives Without Conscience is an encylopedia of documentation on both the evil and illness of those authoritarians who use these tactics, and the neurotic mental illness of those who believe them, support them, applaud them, and follow them.

Bachmann shows her ignorance, everytime she opens her mouth, just as p-alin does, and how many statements have we read, right here, which have claimed that the majority of Americans are against "Obamacare."

The vast RW lies about the Affordable Health Care Reform Bill, and America's wishes, have been as distorted as the claims about the last election, which was bought and paid for by Rove's hidden Corporate, foreign and domestic, polluting crooks and theives.

G.

pooltchr
01-22-2011, 11:34 AM
Poor Gayle...living her life in a fantasy world, while the real world leaves her behind.

Steve

Gayle in MD
01-22-2011, 11:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Bachmann has never received anything better than a rating of “false” from the Pulitzer Prize-winnning fact-checking website PolitiFact — <span style='font-size: 20pt'>“We have checked her 13 times, and seven of her claims to be false and six have been found to be ridiculously false,”</span> PolitiFact editor Bill Adair said — and she won’t break the truth barrier with this statement. </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 17pt'>Rep. Michele Bachmann Falsely Claims Americans ‘Overwhelmingly’ Want Health Care Reform Repealed</span>

In an interview with Newsmax TV’s Ashley Martella yesterday, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) claimed that President Obama’s health reform law — which she called the “crown jewel of socialism” — is unpopular with voters, and that they want it repealed. “The American people have said overwhelmingly that they want this bill repealed,” she said. “As a matter of fact, Ashley, the more people learn about what’s in Obamacare, and when they see the devastating impact of it, the more they dislike this bill and want it gone,” she added. Watch it: </div></div>


The truth?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">An AP poll released Sunday revealed that <u>only one-in-four</u> Americans — just 26 percent — want the health law repealed. An ABC/Wall Street Journal poll released this week found that “just 18 percent favor repealing it entirely.” And a New York Times/CBS poll released today found that just 20 percent of Americans want to fully repeal the health reform law. And as the Washington Post’s Greg Sargent notes, even those numbers may be inflated: </div></div>

Repeat the lie enough.......

Q </div></div>


Here are some more Republican LIES about the Health Care Bill.

This one highlights, Cantor, but all of the Repubs continue to tell lie after lies, and keep repeating the "Job Killing" lie, but last years, Pulitzer Prize Winning Fact Check Site, Politifact, proves, over and over, the vast number of lies they have told about it throughout.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...ce-falls-short/ (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jan/20/eric-cantor/health-care-law-job-killer-evidence-falls-short/)



<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Republicans have used the "job-killing" claim hundreds of times -- so often that they used the phrase in the name of the bill. It implies that job losses will be one of the most significant effects of the law. But they have flimsy evidence to back it up.

The phrase suggests a massive decline in employment, but the data doesn't support that. The Republican evidence is extrapolated from a report that was talking about a reduction in the labor supply rather than the loss of jobs, or based on measures that weren't included in the final health care law. We rate the statement False.</span>The right... always so easily led by propaganda, into the abyss, and always unable to admit to their own ignorant6t foolishness.

pooltchr
01-22-2011, 01:10 PM
<span style='font-size: 20pt'>Gayle's self analysis:

The right... always so easily led by propaganda, into the abyss, and always unable to admit to their own ignorant6t foolishness. </span>

Maybe it's time you found a nice knitting forum with some other bitter little old ladies to keep you company.

Steve

LWW
01-22-2011, 01:50 PM
What are the 13 lies?

LWW &lt;--- Asking the questions the far let refuses to ask.

Qtec
01-22-2011, 10:48 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are the 13 lies?

LWW &lt;--- Asking the questions the far let refuses to ask. </div></div>

What difference does it make? You believe the guy or you don't.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Over the past year, Bachmann has often criticized President Barack Obama, the newly enacted health care law and the growing federal deficit. She comes armed with assertions, figures and graphs to make her point.
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But independent fact checkers find that the information she relies on is often exaggerated, misleading or wrong. PolitiFact, a Pulitzer Prize-winning feature of the St. Petersburg Times that checks whether statements made by politicians are true, has repeatedly determined that Bachmann's claim don't ring true.

"We have checked her 13 times, and seven of her claims to be false and six have been found to be ridiculously false," PolitiFact editor Bill Adair said.

Adair said no politician has been checked as often as Bachmann without saying at least something that's true.

"I don't know anyone else that we have checked, more than a couple times, that has never earned anything above a false," he said. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>"She is unusual in that regard that she has never gotten a rating higher than false."</span>

Adair is careful to say that he expects to someday fact check a Bachmann statement that turns out to be true. He said his organization selects statements that it thinks the public would be curious about.

PolitiFact has been tracking Bachmann's statements since 2009. Bachmann typically recites claims that were initially made on blogs or in chain e-mails, Adair said.

However, it appears that the fact checks have not prompted her to be more cautious with her rhetoric. </div></div>

Q.. here you go (http://politifact.com/personalities/michele-bachmann/statements/)

pooltchr
01-23-2011, 06:47 AM
Well, since politifact is part of the St Petersburg Times, and the newspaper supported Obamacare, are you surprised?

Steve

LWW
01-23-2011, 07:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are the 13 lies?

LWW &lt;--- Asking the questions the far left refuses to ask. </div></div>

What difference does it make? You believe the guy or you don't. </div></div>

And there we have the mind of Q as a snapshot ... the old Freudian slip again.
You either believe him or disbelieve himmbased on ideology.

I actually believe they can find 13 lies she told ... or anyoine for that matter.

Hence, I asked what these lies are?

Were they errant date remembrances, criminal coverups, what were the lies.

Obviously, to you it has no relevance whatsoever. To me, it does.

But, then again, I wasn't the one running in circles like my arse was on fire claiming an innocent person was complicit in a murder simply because it fit a warped political world view either.

LWW


LWW

Sev
01-23-2011, 10:43 AM
HAHHAHHA!!!