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Soflasnapper
01-24-2011, 11:10 AM
I've seen these ads-- pretty slick production values.

Don't buy from these ghoulish profiteer liars.

I don't have a link other than this e-mail I get as a subscriber to this list-serv topic. You can probably figure out how to look into this more if interested from details from the e-mail.

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[9/11 List-Serv] ** Call for crackdown on makers of phony 9/11 Commemorative Coins **
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From:
"AMKorotkin@aol.com" <AMKorotkin@aol.com>
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To: 911-list-serv@googlegroups.com


FOR PLANNING PURPOSES: CONTACT:

January 24, 2011 Mike Morey (Schumer), 202-380-5990

Ilan Kayatsky (Nadler), 917-757-3104



Schumer, Nadler TO call for crackdown on makers of phony 9/11 commemorative coins; COMPANY IS raking in MILLIONS from national tragedy and robbing 9/11 memorial of much needed funds





National Collector’s Mint, Convicted Of Fraud In 2004, Is Peddling New 10th Anniversary 9/11 Coin That Deliberatively Misleads Buyers And Makes Profit by Preying On Americans’ Memories Of That Tragic Day



Schumer, Nadler Passed Legislation Authorizing Official 9/11 Medals, With Proceeds Going to the National September 11th Memorial & Museum; Every Dollar Spent On Phony Coins Is Two Less For Memorial



Schumer, Nadler: ‘No One Should Be Profiting Off of 9/11’



U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer and U.S. Representative Jerrold Nadler, MONDAY, JANUARY 24 AT 11:15AM, will call on the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to take immediate action to stop companies from peddling phony 9/11 commemorative coins and profiting off of 9/11. Their call comes in response to recent advertisements for a new 10th anniversary coin minted by the company National Collector’s Mint. The ads for the coin deliberatively mislead customers into believing that they are government sanctioned and made with silver from Ground Zero. Schumer and Nadler passed legislation in July that created an official 9/11 medal to assist in the establishment of the 9/11 Memorial. They will note that every dollar spent on these phony coins is two dollars that could have gone to the National September 11th Memorial & Museum. The company producing the phony coins was also fined for a similar scam in 2004. Schumer and Nadler will also request the United States Mint post notice on its website alerting consumers to the phony coins.



WHEN: TODAY, January 24, 2010

TIME: 11:15AM

WHERE: World Financial Center Winter Garden

Atrium, Lobby Level

(between Vesey & West Sts).

LWW
01-24-2011, 11:22 AM
I've seen the ads and can't see what the problem is?

Although the stuff is IMHO overpriced trinkets ... what is any different than the WWII trinkets hawked at Pearl Harbor gift shops, or 7th Cavalry reproductions?

We live in a capitalist society ... much to the left's chagrin ... and that means that some people will sell things I wouldn't buy, or prefer not to be sold at all.

In a free society that doesn't give me ... or you ... or congress... authority to ban such trade.

LWW <---Amazed that the far left sees this as wrong, yet supports tax money to go towards paying for "PISS CHRIST" and other such insanity.

LWW
01-24-2011, 11:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Schumer, Nadler: <span style='font-size: 11pt'>‘No One Should Be Profiting Off of 9/11’</span></div></div>

I wonder if they know that what they consider contraband is being sold from dear leader's current residence?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/assets/images/whgslogo.gif________________http://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/assets/images/whgslogo.gif http://whitehouse.merchantcart.net/images/client/1/purchase/flag_of_honor.jpg
http://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/assets/images/whgslogo.gif________________http://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/assets/images/whgslogo.gif

Item ID # 092001
Name FLAG OF HONOR 10TH ANNIVERSARY
Price $21.00
Description 09/11/2001 10th anniversary addition. this flag is created from the names of those who perished in the terrorist attacks of 9/11 now and forever it represents thier immortality we shall never forget them.</div></div>

<span style='font-size: 26pt'><span style='font-family: Arial Black'><u>D'OH! (http://whitehouse.merchantcart.net/mainshopping.cfm?icg_id=12&showsku_ID=1429)</u></span></span>

LWW

Soflasnapper
01-24-2011, 11:45 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've seen the ads and can't see what the problem is?

Although the stuff is IMHO overpriced trinkets ... what is any different than the WWII trinkets hawked at Pearl Harbor gift shops, or 7th Cavalry reproductions?

We live in a capitalist society ... much to the left's chagrin ... and that means that some people will sell things I wouldn't buy, or prefer not to be sold at all.

In a free society that doesn't give me ... or you ... or congress... authority to ban such trade.

LWW &lt;---Amazed that the far left sees this as wrong, yet supports tax money to go towards paying for "PISS CHRIST" and other such insanity.

</div></div>

What part of The ads for the coin deliberatively mislead customers into believing that they are government sanctioned and made with silver from Ground Zero. do you not get?

Yes, people can make and sell bad taste overpriced items, but the FTC has always had the power to make sure advertising isn't false or misleading. They are using false and misleading ad copy.

Soflasnapper
01-24-2011, 11:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Schumer, Nadler: <span style='font-size: 11pt'>‘No One Should Be Profiting Off of 9/11’</span></div></div>

I wonder if they know that what they consider contraband is being sold from dear leader's current residence?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/assets/images/whgslogo.gif________________http://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/assets/images/whgslogo.gif http://whitehouse.merchantcart.net/images/client/1/purchase/flag_of_honor.jpg
http://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/assets/images/whgslogo.gif________________http://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/assets/images/whgslogo.gif

Item ID # 092001
Name FLAG OF HONOR 10TH ANNIVERSARY
Price $21.00
Description 09/11/2001 10th anniversary addition. this flag is created from the names of those who perished in the terrorist attacks of 9/11 now and forever it represents thier immortality we shall never forget them.</div></div>

<span style='font-size: 26pt'><span style='font-family: Arial Black'><u>D'OH! (http://whitehouse.merchantcart.net/mainshopping.cfm?icg_id=12&showsku_ID=1429)</u></span></span>

LWW </div></div>

And to LWW, these official items are ALSO fraudulent, so exactly like the coins! And Obama is making the profit on this scam?

pooltchr
01-24-2011, 12:26 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

And to LWW, these official items are ALSO fraudulent, so exactly like the coins! And Obama is making the profit on this scam? </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'><u>Somebody</u></span> is making a profit.

Steve

LWW
01-24-2011, 12:41 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

And to LWW, these official items are ALSO fraudulent, so exactly like the coins! And Obama is making the profit on this scam? </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'><u>Somebody</u></span> is making a profit.

Steve </div></div>

Well ... it is gubmint, so they probably aren't. But, they're taking people's money.

LWW

LWW
01-24-2011, 12:44 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've seen the ads and can't see what the problem is?

Although the stuff is IMHO overpriced trinkets ... what is any different than the WWII trinkets hawked at Pearl Harbor gift shops, or 7th Cavalry reproductions?

We live in a capitalist society ... much to the left's chagrin ... and that means that some people will sell things I wouldn't buy, or prefer not to be sold at all.

In a free society that doesn't give me ... or you ... or congress... authority to ban such trade.

LWW &lt;---Amazed that the far left sees this as wrong, yet supports tax money to go towards paying for "PISS CHRIST" and other such insanity.

</div></div>

What part of The ads for the coin deliberatively mislead customers into believing that they are government sanctioned and made with silver from Ground Zero. do you not get? </div></div>

Can you link me to where they say this?

LWW

Soflasnapper
01-24-2011, 01:38 PM
Can you link me to where they say this?

They say it directly in the main text of the e-mail I copied above (which see).

Further, quoting myself (from above again, which see)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I don't have a link other than this e-mail I get as a subscriber to this list-serv topic. You can probably figure out how to look into this more if interested from details from the e-mail.</div></div>

However, the text includes the direct phone numbers for aides to Schumer and Nadler, who are the NY federal officials handling this disgrace.

LWW
01-24-2011, 02:54 PM
Fair enough.

Now, what makes you think the claim isn't true?

I have no idea whether it is or isn't and never cared because it's something I have no interest in buying.

I remember the TV ads say they are a legal dollar from Liberia.

If you are calling someone a criminal, or accepting them as one, it's usually a good idea to have a reason or 2 for believing it.

LWW

Soflasnapper
01-24-2011, 11:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fair enough.

Now, what makes you think the claim isn't true?

I have no idea whether it is or isn't and never cared because it's something I have no interest in buying.

I remember the TV ads say they are a legal dollar from Liberia.

If you are calling someone a criminal, or accepting them as one, it's usually a good idea to have a reason or 2 for believing it.

LWW </div></div>

This company was already fined not long ago for similar misrepresentations, and I suspect that had able legal counsel and still lost that case.

They continue to enjoy enough profit to afford good legal representation, and I doubt Nadler and Schumer would push this issue only to lose an invalid claim in court.

Your mileage may vary.

LWW
01-25-2011, 03:57 AM
So ... you don't actually have any evidence.

Oh ... and this bothers you, but the state running a Ponzi scheme that will make debt slaves of the next generation is cool by you.


LWW